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Originally posted by Rasputin13
The fact that anyone still listens to this guy just blows my mind. Didn't he already do enough damage to our country when he was President?
I think our nation would be well-served to do the exact opposite of whatever Jimmy Carter tells us to do!
Originally posted by deltaboy
at least he agrees that it aint like the gulag of our time with the Soviets.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Originally posted by deltaboy
at least he agrees that it aint like the gulag of our time with the Soviets.
A gulag is a gulag.
Carter's presidency was marked by a period of American supremacy being challenged abroad and economic recession striking at home. Sixty-six hostages were taken inside the American embassy in Tehran on November 4, 1979 by Iranian revolutionaries. Later that year, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. Inflation and interest rates reached their highest levels since World War II as the administration froze domestic oil prices in response to rising prices from OPEC. These problems, many of them outside of Carter's control, and the perception that he failed to deal with them decisively contributed to his re-election defeat.
Originally posted by Nygdan
just for the public relations benefits.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
A gulag is a gulag.
Originally posted by CTOVery true... the problem is that Gitmo is no gulag... Far from it... the detainees at Gitmo get treated far better than the Russians treated THEIR OWN CITIZENS in the REAL gulags...
Originally posted by CTO
Doesn't ANYONE remember what happened here in the US on September 11, 2001???
Originally posted by CTO
Where is the evidence of torture at Gitmo?
The Torture Papers: The Road to Abu Ghraib
Edited by Karen J. Greenberg and Joshua L. Dratel
The Legal Narrative
While the proverbial road to hell is paved with good intentions, the internal government memos collected in this publication demonstrate that the path to the purgatory that is Guantanamo Bay, or Abu Ghraib, has been paved with decidedly bad intentions. The policies that resulted in rampant abuse of detainees first in Afghanistan, then at Guantanamo Bay, and later in Iraq, were product of three pernicious purposes designed to facilitate the unilateral and unfettered detention, interrogation, abuse, judgment, and punishment of prisoners: (1) the desire to place the detainees beyond the reach of any court or law; (2) the desire to abrogate the Geneva Convention with respect to the treatment of persons seized in the context of armed hostilities; and (3) the desire to absolve those implementing the policies of any liability for war crimes under U.S. and international law.
Indeed, any claim of good faith – that those who formulated the policies were merely misguided in their pursuit of security in the face of what is certainly a genuine terrorist threat – is belied by the policy makers’ more than tacit acknowledgment of their unlawful purpose. Otherwise, why the need to find a location – Guantanamo Bay – purportedly outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. (or any other) courts? Why the need to ensure those participating that they could proceed free of concern that they could face prosecution for war crimes as a result of their adherence to the policy? Rarely, if ever, has such a guilty governmental conscience been so starkly illuminated in advance.
thinkingpeace.com...
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Originally posted by CTO
I read the piece at the link that you provided...
It's a review of a book that I will not purchase...
As I mentioned previously, we have repatriated Gitmo detainees only to capture them again in battle...
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Originally posted by CTO
I read the piece at the link that you provided...
It's a review of a book that I will not purchase...
Excellent. Keep yourself in the dark.
As I mentioned previously, we have repatriated Gitmo detainees only to capture them again in battle...
Would you be so kind as to provide us with some links proving that statement?
[edit on 6/11/05 by EastCoastKid]
Originally posted by Boatphone
In Al Qaeda's trainning mannual tells its followers to report false abuse. This is because they know that the U.S. does not tourture. Also, the enemy knows that the left-wing types will jump on these reports and help them; THE TERRORISTS!
Jimmy Carter = Jane Fonda.
Originally posted by Boatphone
In Al Qaeda's trainning mannual tells its followers to report false abuse. This is because they know that the U.S. does not tourture. Also, the enemy knows that the left-wing types will jump on these reports and help them; THE TERRORISTS!