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100 new Abu Ghraib pictures/videos to be released of children and women raped

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posted on Jul, 23 2005 @ 08:01 PM
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The photographs and videos have been blocked from release at the last minute.



Pentagon Blocks Release of Abu Ghraib Images: Here's Why


NEW YORK So what is shown on the 87 photographs and four videos from Abu Ghraib prison that the Pentagon, in an eleventh hour move, blocked from release this weekend? One clue: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress last year, after viewing a large cache of unreleased images: "I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe.” They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added.

A Republican Senator suggested the same day they contained scenes of “rape and murder.” No wonder Rumsfeld commented then, "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse."

Yesterday, news emerged that lawyers for the Pentagon had refused to cooperate with a federal judge's order to release dozens of unseen photographs and videos from Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq by Saturday. The photos were among thousands turned over by the key “whistleblower” in the scandal, Specialist Joseph M. Darby. Just a few that were released to the press sparked the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal last year, and the video images are said to be even more shocking.


Releated link:
San Francisco Chronicle




posted on Jul, 23 2005 @ 08:04 PM
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Good find Ace.


This was stupid of them. People will obviously assume the worst.

This is going to get ugly after a time, mark my words. The images are most likely being stored securely offline by the Pentagon, but there are probably originals, or at least raw data, floating around somewhere. What's the bet the whistleblower or friends/kin gets sick of this game and release the material in question?



posted on Jul, 24 2005 @ 09:45 PM
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Being America committed these attrocities they NEED to be brought to light to show the world what there REALLY doing.

America is so quick to jump on the bandwagon of human rights and showing other countries there bad deeds..

America deserves to be punished for its actions in IRAQ.
the Government deserves to be punished for going INTO Iraq.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 04:08 AM
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IF this stuff really happened; and if rummy and the rep senator are alluding to rape and such; the photos must be released asap

why? because the truth should never be hidden

reality is disgusting i know

but the ONLY WAY TO STOP IT!
is to EXPOSE IT!

dude if this stuff is true ; america just went down the toilet 100%
our nation will never recover from something this nasty
everyone will hate us for a good 100years over that one


now, my conspiracy theory about this
(keep in mind i base this theory on "IF" the allegations are true)

if its true; i propose a theory based on all the other theorys people at ATS post *im sure someone has mentioned this countless times before*

- the 'powers that be' are intentionally destroying the credibility of USA
- they want to incite the people to such a revolting state; that we will force our govt to step down; all of them; everyone
- the henry kissinger stuff may be true like "by the time were done the USA will be begging for UN troops to come save them"
he said something very similar to that *the quote isnt exact* *allegedly*

if this is true...they want us to willingly enter a 'nwo' type thing

we cannot allow that
we must rebuild our govt on our own without their assistance
its the only way to beat the "double conspiracy"

-they get the media to report intentionally created scandels to tick us off; and keep at it until we vomit with anger
- the media is actually doing this every day; making americas credibility next to nothing
-iraq/rove/abugraib/911/etcetc etc etc etc

i certainly hope this is BS
but i have this nagging fear; that its all too true

please God make this all a bad dream
i actually like my America despite its ills

a revelation like child rape by military; is so horrific; that it could destroy our entire nation
and no one would ever listen to us ever agian

why are humans so STUPID

please please god make this NOT TRUE!

but until we actually see all the evidence ; NO ONE should be saying "oh its true" or "oh its not true"
No ONE knows for ssure! so dont jump the gun like that please

we must see the photos before we can make valid judgement of IF rape occured or NOT....

if it did happen; heed my words
"Double Conspiracy"



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
Being America committed these attrocities they NEED to be brought to light to show the world what there REALLY doing.

America is so quick to jump on the bandwagon of human rights and showing other countries there bad deeds..

America deserves to be punished for its actions in IRAQ.
the Government deserves to be punished for going INTO Iraq.


your boys from aussie went to iraq too
if we get punished
you will too

so be ready to accept that being its only fair

and if ur boys did anything like our boys did; same goes for them
justice must be served



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash


dude if this stuff is true ; america just went down the toilet 100%
our nation will never recover from something this nasty
everyone will hate us for a good 100years over that one


we must see the photos before we can make valid judgement of IF rape occured or NOT....


Keep in mind that germany is thought of very well, but that is after much trial and failure...
Japan is thought of nicely, and they were guilty of far worse than prisoner abuse during ww2

of course America will bear ill will from the world, but MUCH will be forgotten and forgiven all too soon... as other countries atrocities will be brought to the forefront... (anyone hear about sudan recently, those scallywags).
so every country has a few bad moments in history... and the world goes on...

*ALSO OF NOTE:
rape of young boys in the islamic culture is about as accepted as it is in American prisons... so it is very possible that many of these pics are off IRAQIS raping Iraqi young while being incarcerated... (as is the case of the well known pic with "rapist" written on the butt cheek)... but you do not hear about this angle...

because to most, it does not matter if our soldiers raped anyone or if we sat back and allowed prisoners to rape each other, as a form of debasement and torture...
I see a difference... but that is just me...



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 11:05 AM
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These pictures aren't being released because they shine a very bright and clear light on how despicably our military is behaving in this action (no doubt with the permission and under the watchful eye of their leaders). It’s shameful, contemptible!

As the flag-covered coffin pictures were censored; these are being kept from the public. This keeps the truth from us. There's no denying that. This administration is hiding so much!

Deny ignorance, but don't deny the truth!

I imagine that this is just the tip of the iceberg. These are just the pictures and information that are slipping through the cracks. Imagine all the other information that this administration is successfully concealing from the public!

Off to write a letter to my favorite senator!



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Moretti
In a side developement : international survey finds 25% of americans mentally ill


Truth is ... one out of every five people - that's 20% of the WORLD
POPULATION has a mental disorder at some point in their lives.
Some are short lived. Some are long lived. This includes phobias
such as being afraid of the dark, fear of heights, excessive fear of
spiders, etc etc.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
These pictures aren't being released because they shine a very bright and clear light on how despicably our military is behaving in this action ..


No. These pictures aren't being released because THEY DON'T EXHIST.
'Soon to be released' yeah right. Still waiting.

'trust me they show women and children being raped' ... yeah right.


1 - We don't rape women and children. We don't rape soldiers either.
Unlike the Iraqis who gang raped Jessica Lynch while she lay
there with a broken back and two broken legs. Yeah, really
appealing, a broken women on her death bed. Sickos.

2 - The only ones STUPID enough to take home videos of rapes was
SADDAM and his sons. Which they did all the time.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

No. These pictures aren't being released because THEY DON'T EXHIST.
'Soon to be released' yeah right. Still waiting.

'trust me they show women and children being raped' ... yeah right.


1 - We don't rape women and children. We don't rape soldiers either.
Unlike the Iraqis who gang raped Jessica Lynch while she lay
there with a broken back and two broken legs. Yeah, really
appealing, a broken women on her death bed. Sickos.

2 - The only ones STUPID enough to take home videos of rapes was
SADDAM and his sons. Which they did all the time.


You want proof? Ha! Where's your proof? That's funny! We'll talk later after these pictures are released.
Then you can show me the Jessica Lynch and Saddam's son's Videos.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Then you can show me the Jessica Lynch and Saddam's son's Videos.


You are kidding right? Jessica Lynch was gang raped and sodomized.
She had to have lots of colin surgery because of perferations from having
rifles shoved up her butt. She has no memories of a week of time, but
her wounds were consistant with those of a gang rape/sodomy victim.

Saddam's sons ... the rape videos and rape houses were all over the
news. Testimonies and physical evidence. google up Uday Rape Houses.
I'm not going to click on any of them, I don't want to see ... but google
up rape as a weapon, rape videos, etc. The info is there.

But yes, I'd be more than happy to discuss this subject with you further,
when 'they' come out - as you said. Of course ... they won't come out
because they don't exhist.
Rumors started by the Vast EuroCentric
Left Wing Conspiracy. Nothing more.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 11:49 AM
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I do believe that the photos exist. Why else would Rumsfeild, and others be discussing them as if they do?

IMHO though I really do not see what it matters if the photos are released or not. We have plenty of photos from the first round of Abhu Graib, and those were not enough to get people up in arms (figuratively).

What will be the difference? The general pubic will continue to believe what they want to reguardless of whether or not there is photographic evidence.......after all it was just the acts of a few rogue soldiers , remember?



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
You are kidding right? Jessica Lynch was gang raped and sodomized.
She had to have lots of colin surgery because of perferations from having
rifles shoved up her butt. She has no memories of a week of time, but
her wounds were consistant with those of a gang rape/sodomy victim.


You're just making up nonsense now.
Show me the proof of what you just claimed.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 12:44 PM
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If an soldier dies sometimes i dont feel any sympathy towards them because of this stuff. The Amercain soldiers fights for a no cause and have no critrion in life that is way these things happen.

You talk about peace and freedom look what you did to iraq now and look what your doing to there people. and you alway say why these happens to us you could answer this question by yourself.

In the Amry is a very different type of politics that is much more complex to understand. The first loser of war are always civilians people die childern slaughter.

Its a war there alway choas so what do you expect !!!



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Moretti
A judge has ordered the Bush administration to release more of the Abu Ghraib material, including pictures and videos of women and children being raped by US interrogators. The pictures leave no doubt that detainee abuse in Iraq is more widespread than initially thought. The administration has announced it would not comply with the court's ruling.
 





dude quit making chit up to make it sound more disgusting than what it is. im sure the prisoners were abused. in fact they have proven that. but to sodomize and rape women and children is a whole nother ball game dude. so please quite being dumb. it takes a very sick person to rape a women and an even sicker person to sodomize a child.


DTAL:
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posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by skychief
While I agree that the Bush administration has handled this incident horribly, I don't believe that any good can come from the release of more abuse pictures. The only thing that this will accomplish is more rioting and death. There definitely needs to be a better investigation into these matters, with more details made available, but the release of more images would just fuel hatred. Also, it is getting absolutely outrageous the extent some politically biased news organizations will go to blast their opposition and I’m talking about Republicans and Democrats. At what point are these people going to wake up, get a conscious, and realize that their actions harm others. In my opinion, these organizations, that print these biased stories, need to be held responsible for the problems they create. There needs to be more responsibility in today’s journalism. [/quote

I see so sensible journalism in your eyes is to cover it up like all the nasty things the US govermnent is doing are coverd up.
The problem is that americans are so kept in the dark that the truth(light) is just to hard to handle for most.
The truth, how shocking it may be, must always come out.
Objectivity in america has been in a recession for some time now because of this.



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
You're just making up nonsense now.
Show me the proof of what you just claimed.


You owe me an apology for claiming that I made up nonsense.

USATODAY.com -
www.usatoday.com...
In the book, author Rick Bragg writes that scars on Lynch's body and
medical records indicate she was sodomized ...

NYDailyNews
www.nydailynews.com...

BBC NEWS
www.news.bbc.co.uk...

www.en.wikipedia.org...

Cal State Fullerton Daily Titan Online:
By Paul D. Colford and Corky Siemaszko
www.dailytitan.fullerton.edu... -

The leaks from those around her said that she HAD to have been
soddomized with what was most likely (although they'll never know
for sure) something akin to a rifle due to the injuries sustained in her colin.

These injuries happened BEFORE she was in the hospital. Between
the time she was injured in her vehicle, to the time she was in the
hospital.


[edit on 7/26/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
You owe me an apology for claiming that I made up nonsense.

--snip--
The leaks from those around her said that she HAD to have been
soddomized with what was most likely (although they'll never know
for sure) something akin to a rifle due to the injuries sustained in her colin.

These injuries happened BEFORE she was in the hospital. Between
the time she was injured in her vehicle, to the time she was in the
hospital.

The doctor who examined her saw no signs of rape and she doesn't remember being raped. If she had been sodomized with a rifle she would have probably had bleeding out of her rectum. The site on the end of the rifle would have probably damaged the tissue on the outside of her rectum making it very noticable to a doctor.

The Jessica Lynch story was used as propaganda right from the beginning and is still being used as propaganda even though much of it has been proven false.

Iraqis Doubt Lynch Rape Claim

Iraqi doctors dispute Lynch rape claim



posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 04:52 AM
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If the Amercains soldiers rape other soldiers wouldnt they rape a helpless women



posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 11:12 AM
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Kudos to the members of ATS for voting this extremely biased submission down


Frankly, I think it should have been thown in the trash the instant it hit the submission list.




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