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I got a great idea that will benefit the detained terrorists as well as future detainees.

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posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 07:28 PM
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Just because some of them may be innocent, does that mean we should let them all go? Just because we can't build a legal case against some of them, does that mean they aren't terrorists? Child molestors and murderers are found not guilty for lack of evidence every single day. Then they go on to molest and kill yet again.

These people are either terrorists or have the worst luck in the world. If its the latter, then they shouldn't have been where they were when they we captured. Because they obviously weren't out on a family picnic. They were likely in known terror havens. Maybe they're not full-blown terrorists, but I'd be willing to bet the large majority have plenty of skeletons in thier closets. Unfortunately when your enemies are willing to blow themselves up in a crowd of women and children, we cannot afford them the luxury of due process all the time. There's this little thing called "national security." It's what's kept all of us from being blown up in the last 3 1/2 years.

Our interrogators are skilled and our intelligence network is improving. If there are innocent people at Gitmo then they will eventually be rooted out and released. In the meantime, we need to be better safe than sorry. And lets not forget the fact that most of them are living in far better conditions than they were before being captured. The only people who are claiming we are torturing them are the terrorists themselves or the liberal tulipwalkers who are against the whole War on Terror.

Instead of spending your time worrying about the rights of radical fundamentalists being held at Gitmo, why don't you go do something for the victims and families of victims of terror attacks! They're the ones we're forgetting about here by even giving these murderers the time of day.




posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 08:37 AM
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Whatever happened to the premise of being innocent until proven guilty?! That aside though, I'm not sure anyone is pushing for every Gitmo resident to be freed immediately. Afforded some basic rights, yes. Treated like human beings, absolutely.

I find it hard to comprehend your statement of, "These people are either terrorists or have the worst luck in the world. If its the latter, then they shouldn't have been where they were when they we captured. Because they obviously weren't out on a family picnic. They were likely in known terror havens. Maybe they're not full-blown terrorists, but I'd be willing to bet the large majority have plenty of skeletons in thier closets"

So...these folks are either terrorists or deserve to be captured anyway because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? That kind of logic is fatally flawed, and if it were suddenly applied to US citizens, we'd have civil war within hours. Let's just hope having a few skeletons in our own closests doesn't mean we're all headed for "stick 'em in jail anyway, I'm sure they deserve it". It seems you've made a tragic assumption that Arab must somehow equate to "terrorist". And still, we wonder why there's so much anti-Western thought in the world - statements such as those you made only contribute further.

It seems misguided to think that Gitmo - and the ambiguity of "National Security" - has prevented any terror attacks here. Where's your proof that this would have happened? Are we forgetting that every one of the terrorist attacks on US soil have come from people who have either entered the US legally, or were born here? (McVeigh, anyone? You know, nerdy looking white guy. The one living right down the street. The one who is definitely *not* Arab or Middle-Eastern. Neither was Kaczinski). Terrorist cells, where they exist in the US, are operating whether or not we like it, and no amount of Gitmo-like bases are going to prevent that. We've already seen this.

"why don't you go do something for the victims and families of victims of terror attacks! They're the ones we're forgetting about here by even giving these murderers the time of day. "

Perhaps some of us are amongst those talented individuals who can concentrate and focus on two causes at the same time. Trying to stop terrorism, and trying to preserve human rights. It's a tad presumptuous for you to imply that people aren't actually doing both.

It's not that difficult - the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.



posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
u can repeat wat i say but in anicase ill be ok dat the soldiers are torture by the enemy for information. thats just war


No disrespect deltaboy, but in my experience, in the military and in war, that attitude is unacceptable. If this is the attitude that permeates today's military, than the men women who make up our ranks are in deep #.



posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Rasputin13
Instead of spending your time worrying about the rights of radical fundamentalists being held at Gitmo, why don't you go do something for the victims and families of victims of terror attacks! They're the ones we're forgetting about here by even giving these murderers the time of day.


There are two very different things Rasputin: Original thought and rhetoric. Original thought is no where to be found in your post.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 03:50 PM
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1 man
1 plane
1 bomb
It's over !

Next radical country that is inhumanely killing innocent adults, adolesence, and children by Chemical Weapons, Inhuman Testing, Genocide etc..........Like Iraq !

Look out you are next on ths hit list.

BOOM -



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Rasputin13
Instead of spending your time worrying about the rights of radical fundamentalists being held at Gitmo, why don't you go do something for the victims and families of victims of terror attacks! They're the ones we're forgetting about here by even giving these murderers the time of day.


Are all of the prisoners being held at guantanamo bay fundamentalists? Maybe some are just soldiers doing their job or people fighting against a nation that has invaded their country.

People are pretty much the same everywhere in that when their country is invaded by a foreign power they will resist.

It's quite easy to label someone a fundamentalist, you could quite easily place that label on Pres. Bush or Tony Blair. Does this mean all of the soldiers fighting in the US military are fundamentalists?

The terrorists being held at guantanamo have only themselves to blame and deserve what they are getting but the innocent men there who were simply fighting for their cause and country do not.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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Listen you retards, we were going to give them military tribunials and POW status first but everyone got their panties in a knot. Remember that, it was about the same time Danny Pearl had his head sawed off and the LA Times ran an investigative report called "When Cluster Bombs Go Astray."


Faggots.

[edit on 10-6-2005 by lukethedrifter]




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