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Satanist paedophile ring 'ritually raped up to 25 children'

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posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 06:01 AM
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Im not sure if this is in the right place, so feel free to move this to the right place.This is really disturbing news, its pretty sick stuff.



In the cypress flats of Tangipahoa, a fervently religious area in the swamps north of New Orleans, local people still remember proudly how the Rev Louis Lamonica vowed to "take Tangipahoa parish for Jesus".

Thirty years later, the charismatic preacher's son and successor has certainly taken the parish by storm - but not exactly for Jesus.

In a case that has horrified Americans way beyond the Bible Belt, Louis Lamonica Jnr and eight members the Hosanna Church are accused of being members of a Satanic paedophile ring who ritually raped up to 25 children, as well as performing animal sacrifices.


www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2005/06/03/wsat03.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/06/03/ixworld.html

I really dont know what to make of this, it has really left me with out words and struck me deep to the core. Im not sure what can make people resort to this sort of act, we really live in a dark world.




posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 07:33 AM
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That is pretty disgusting... I want to say thanks for sharing, but I'm not sure I'm really thankful for it. The acts will leave scars and trauma on the young folks for the rest of their lives.

It is pretty obvious that humanity has an extremely dark side.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 08:37 AM
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That is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. Those poor kids, I hope you did this gets punished severely for what they've done. How stupid can humans get? That makes me so angry considering I would be around the age of those kids who got raped.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 09:14 AM
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yup alias, I'm about that age too. Although I don't think there are any satanist churches around here, I do get scared sometimes of this one guy at my school. I hope they all burn in hell, the place where they were destined to go anyway. To me, heaven is my destination.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 10:17 AM
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That is truly sickening.

Anyone that would abuse a child like that deserves to be... Well, they will get what they deserve, in this world or the next.

Backup articles:

www.msnbc.msn.com...

abcnews.go.com...



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:02 AM
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What is with the shock people.

Yes, this is a horrific act.

But no, it s not a sign of a dark cloud that we live in. What happens to people who talk about child abuse and satanism on this forum?

Ridiculed, shut up, told they don't have evidence? Yep... Just imagine how you guys would have treated some one who said they had personally been abused, like a LIAR!

But its OK, its in the news now. Satanic child abuse, so feel free to clear your conscience for all the other times you obscured people's conversations on the topic, and WHY people would do such a thing.

And no, its not because they are crazy. as easy as that is to believe, and as many people as there are that would hope you would believe that.

really, there is nothing to the religious worship they were doing.... So if there is no Satan, what exactly were they doing, and why?

And why call it Satanism even when you don't believe in 'him'?

It should be clear, it is to make people stop paying attention, to stop looking deeper, to automatically think they are either good-intentioned/just plain crazy.

Look deeper, people.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Dances With Angels I do get scared sometimes of this one guy at my school. I hope they all burn in hell, the place where they were destined to go anyway. To me, heaven is my destination.

Did, did you read the article? The guy was a christian preacher. He ran a christian church, a somewhat 'evangelical' one from the sounds of it. He wasn't an 'obvious' satanist, he was a devout christian, and godknows what made him do these things. He's not an actual practicing satanist, he's a pedophile minister. He's the guy, telling people like you, that homosexuals and satanists are 'going to burn in hell'.


Cug

posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by akilles

But no, it s not a sign of a dark cloud that we live in. What happens to people who talk about child abuse and satanism on this forum?

Ridiculed, shut up, told they don't have evidence? Yep... Just imagine how you guys would have treated some one who said they had personally been abused, like a LIAR!


IMHO this is a case of a Christian cult pedophile ring using satanic imagery to scare children into submitting. Sick



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 02:20 PM
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This is absolutely disturbing. With all these things happening at churches, like the christian child abusing and such things like these kind of makes me continue not to want to attend churches and just find god on my own and worship on my own. This story is by far the most disgusting thing i've ever heard. None of those children will ever be able to lead a normal life. These are things you just dont forget. I think the people that are found guilty should have a much stricter punsihment than they will get. They deserve to be ass raped in some state pen by some big black guy for the rest of thier lives. IMO



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 02:38 PM
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To elaborate on what Cug and Akilles said, the following is from the article:




Although Sheriff Edwards is in no doubt that some of the abusers believed they were taking part in Satanic rituals, Mr Reed said it remained unclear how much they were simply paedophiles using the "trappings and symbols" of Satanism.


I think it's very important to let that paragraph sink in. This is most likely not Satanism and actually doesn't sound like Church of Satan satanism to me, but most likely people using it as a way to manipulate their prey.

Happens with UFOS and Christ figures too. Some believe but most of the time the ones in charge don't.

IMO of course and as always.

Spiderj



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 02:47 PM
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I think you are right CUG, that is pretty obsurd and probably why they say they were satanists. I have always had a tough time with religion, ever since I was little and I come from a religous family. The use of fear to scare people into thinking something is a bad thing in my book. There have been things like this before, a trend if you will that seems to happen in religion and not just this country or christianity, just look at all the catholic priests that have been convicted of such things. When I was a child we attended a church that my mother had been going to since her childhood, my grandfather was the guy who opens for the main minister, not sure what thats called, and my grandmother played the organ/piano, very into their church and religion and so were we, we attended sundays and wednesdays and sometimes even sunday nights. When I was about 7 we got a new minister and he had a large family of 5 girls and a boy and I remember these girls very well because they were all around my age. I also remeber they acted strangely a lot of the time and cried a lot and said things and did things that even a 7 year old could feel was strange. About a year later we left the church because my parents decided they didn't want to go there anymore, what I Didn't understand at the time is that they left for other reasons. I recently spoke with my dad about this and he said that he inquired as to why his children acted the way they do and found out from some friends of his that the new minister molested his daughters and had been asked to leave a previous church because some things he did with other children. My father was furious and confronted my grandfather and some other high up people in the church about it, come to find out they knew to and decided not to do anything about it, basically he is the preacher and we should respect him sort of attitude. Well my dad wasn't going to put up with that crap and left the church and informed authorities but this was 30 years ago so god knows what ever happened to the guy and his family. I believe with a greater power comes greater responsibility, it's just too easy for people in powerful positions to abuse it and take advantage and it happens all the time. I also believe that child molesting happens way more than people realize or even accept, there are some countries where it's a major problem and other countries like here where it is so terrible that people won't even talk about it or they are afraid to because someone might accuse them of it. It happens everywhere and way more than it every should. I just read that one of michael jacksons security guards saw him doing things with a child and never said anything until now, why? I think because it was michael jackson, he's rich, famous and his boss, which apparently is enough reason for some people to just walk away from such things. It truely is a dark world now, not because of the terrible things we do but because of the terrible things we don't do. peace



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 03:41 PM
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Look, NYGDAN and some of you others that equate this with Christanity, you really are making absurd statements. Just because someone says they are "Christian" does not make them a "Christian". Obviously if they were practing what the Bible/Christ taught they would not have been doing what they did to those children. It's the same thing as saying "all" Muslims are terrorist, which of course they are not. There are corrupt and "evil" people in every religion, every gov't, every everything, but that does not make the religion or other people that belong to the religion "corrupt" or "evil". It just makes those that are corrupt what they are - hippocrites and lyers (as well as very sick people).
NYGDAN , how can you be a moderator and make a statement like you did?

[edit on 6-6-2005 by humbled_one]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 04:02 PM
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All satanists are not bad people!!!!

I am not a satanist, nor would I ever be one, but you all are making a terrible assumption, that all bad people are satanists, or that all satanists are bad people.

My friend Trent is an avid satanist. He is one of the nicest people I know, he just happens to worship stan as you would worship a god, or whatever. Satanism does not always mean occult. He does not sacrifice animals, to anyone other than to his stomach, he doesn't drink blood, and he isn't mean or evil.

There are rapists and crazy people in EVERY religion. It happens because people are F*&#ed up in the head. Even death is too good a fate for these soulless beings. They should be forced to live in eternal suffering. You cannot blame satanism for human nature, to be sexual deviants and criminals. And it sounds like this guy was a priest for a christian church.



[edit on 6-6-2005 by Eyeofhorus]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 04:28 PM
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I don't think we are trying to say that religion is bad because of what these wierdo's did, we are just saying it's interesting how many powerful religious people exploit their religion to do the very things they preach against, thats all. In other words just because someone has a certain title doesn't make them any better or safer than average joe molester. I for one support religion, it teaches good morals, love and respect, good things by my standards, it just a backwards world.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Eyeofhorus
All satanists are not bad people!!!!

I am not a satanist, nor would I ever be one, but you all are making a terrible assumption, that all bad people are satanists, or that all satanists are bad people.

My friend Trent is an avid satanist. He is one of the nicest people I know, he just happens to worship stan as you would worship a god, or whatever. Satanism does not always mean occult. He does not sacrifice animals, to anyone other than to his stomach, he doesn't drink blood, and he isn't mean or evil.

There are rapists and crazy people in EVERY religion. It happens because people are F*&#ed up in the head. Even death is too good a fate for these soulless beings. They should be forced to live in eternal suffering. You cannot blame satanism for human nature, to be sexual deviants and criminals. And it sounds like this guy was a priest for a christian church.



[edit on 6-6-2005 by Eyeofhorus]


I agree. It is completely against the morals of Satanists to harm others. Like you said EoH, it's these whack jobs that give religions a bad
reputation.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Eyeofhorus
There are rapists and crazy people in EVERY religion. It happens because people are F*&#ed up in the head. Even death is too good a fate for these soulless beings. They should be forced to live in eternal suffering. You cannot blame satanism for human nature, to be sexual deviants and criminals. And it sounds like this guy was a priest for a christian church.


The underlying problem is that fundamentalist christians blame Satan for everything bad in the world. This is why, as you said, they think every bad person must be a satanist, and every satanist must be a bad person. It's the height of ignorance as we know it.


[edit on 6-6-2005 by sebatwerk]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 05:33 PM
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SEBATWERK, actually your statement about Christians being ignorant is ignorant in itself. It was not like a bunch of Christians came out and said that the minister and his followers were "satanists", it was the news media who reported that they were satanist, which they also probably got from the police who said that they were satanists. Also I don't know that all Christians say that "bad" people are satanist's, they say they are sinners. But then everyone is said to be a sinner and I think most Christians would agree that they are sinners also...

[edit on 6-6-2005 by humbled_one]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by humbled_one
it was the news media who reported that they were satanist, which they also probably got from the police who said that they were satanists.


I will agree with humbled. The people making these claims, have nothing to do with christianity. They are the news media, and they know how to whip up some contriversy, in order to drive thier story home. The will use any little lead they have to go on, before it is completely verified.

On the other hand, there is quite a bit of christian and Jewish influence in the american news media, and it is hard to say how much bias is created by this. I would say, not too much, but enough to make me notice sometimes.



posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 03:17 PM
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How can this guy be called Leader of a Christian Cult, as CUG called him?

How? Don't your actions define and take precedence over how you have defined yourself through words?

CUG is making the major assumption that what this guy said is most important in his life is actually the truth... Hmmm, I don't take his word for it whatsoever, but thats OK.

In fact, that makes us believe that he (the minister) actually thought he was doing 'Gods Will', and the God he said he believed in is the Christian God. But is this the case?
How can we attribute such ignorance to 'mere' fanaticism? How can we say that this was anything less than systematic?

How can we call it a misjudgement by an overly religious person, as opposed to a extremely well-planned, and sadistically executed plan to molest young girls and at the same time, destroy people's faith in fellow Christians (esp. supposed leaders of the community)

So where did the word Satan become involved, and how can we say that 'the trappings' of the occult that were found were used for ANYTHING other than what we know them to be classically used for, and that is RITUAL.

Thats why its called the SpiRITUAL, people. Because there are some people who have darker beliefs than they are allowed to let on.

And there are invisible forces in this world, and denying the existence of an ADMITTED SCAPEGOAT Satan, does little, or nothing, in terms of protecting us or teaching us anything at all about these invisible (and sometimes dangerous) forces.
"Christian cult pedophile ring using satanic imagery"
Right....
The occult and sex, and ritual go together,
not molestation, preachers, and the way of Life God has allowed Humans to live (that is, good or bad).

The easiest way to tempt people is to tell them they aren't being tempted, as there are no beings with that power!



posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 05:43 PM
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EYEOFHORUS, i have read that not all Satanist's (maybe not even most, i don't know) do not believe in killing, etc. but i saw a documentary on Anton LeVey and his church and it seemed he was saying that the/his Satanist religion was about doing whatever you felt like, even if it was unto others and it seemed what he was saying is that the "strong" can do whatever they want to the weak because that is the true way of man (i don't think he said killing was ok, but...). i am not saying your friend is like this but are you sure your friend is really practicing Satanism or just saying he is? As far as i know only Anton LeVey wrote the "Satanic" Bible, so would not your friend have to be practiing what it says in that book if he was a true Satanist? Sort of like if a Christian says they are a practing Christian, then they should be following the Bible. Personally i feel practicing anything that promotes "darkness", selfishness, and no respect of your fellow man just is not right, you know what i mean? It seems to me, that Anton LeVey was pretty clear that's what he and his church were into...



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