Can you describe, in more detail (pix appreciated) this "free-energy" machine you were working on?

The only problem with Zero Point Energy is it defys all physics. Creating something from nothing.

The 20th century version of alchemy, lets see if this one pans out.

Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
Can you describe, in more detail (pix appreciated) this "free-energy" machine you were working on?

I'm not interrested in what I was working on at this point. I'm interrested in this other direction which I have given a link so as to start some REAL thought. My idea is past. But... later on I will... post something more about the machine i lost. I'll have to see if I have anything left in storage( really hate digging in the junk). If not I'll whip out a drawing. The problem with this machine is that it needed to be big and in a vaccuum.As I said I am not going that way..... Check out the web I linked and you'll form a mental pic of what is being investigated.. I have. If you aren't able to... let me know and I'll help. Read ...Study.. you'll see.

I beg to differ with the concept that free energy is somehow "created" from nothing. Everything that I have read is that the energy exists and these machines are merely extracting it. It is free bcause no work is being done to extract this energy. Nothing is being created.

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
I beg to differ with the concept that free energy is somehow "created" from nothing. Everything that I have read is that the energy exists and these machines are merely extracting it. It is free bcause no work is being done to extract this energy. Nothing is being created.

Correct...energy exists and must be drawn into use. How do you think you would do this. Think vacuum...ball... magnets...what next.

I've been doing reading on Victor Schauberger's vortex engine, which has been labled a "free energy" device.

If we look at nature, the vortex is one of great power. Think of black holes, water spouts, tornados, etc.

Nick Cook in "Hunt for Zero Point" talked about metal plates spaced very close together that were able to extract energy. (Theoretical?)

My assumption that the energy of the aether is nothing more than tapping into the "dark" energy that exists everywhere, even on Earth.

Telsa either was able to tap into this (Wardyncliffe) or was very close.

I don't know about the "ball" but extracting the energy that binds atoms together. Stronger than the "nuclear force" that exists between atoms.

When we have a perfect vacuum, what exists? The only thing that can exist is energy. So this must then be the energy that exists in between atoms. Now we just need something that allows that energy to flow.

Hmmm. Patents refused, government coverups, pictures buried somewhere...

Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
Can you describe, in more detail (pix appreciated) this "free-energy" machine you were working on?

I have no photos...but allow me some time to find my papers in storage and I'll draw up some basics. If you have an email I'll send them to you. I'll do the same for others that are serious then We can share. But as I said it didn't produce a large enough amount of usable energy to be viable. My purpose is to seriously delve into the possiblity of building an inexpensive phase-shift device or a void field sucker(for lack of a better term at this moment).

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
I've been doing reading on Victor Schauberger's vortex engine, which has been labled a "free energy" device.

If we look at nature, the vortex is one of great power. Think of black holes, water spouts, tornados, etc.

Nick Cook in "Hunt for Zero Point" talked about metal plates spaced very close together that were able to extract energy. (Theoretical?)

My assumption that the energy of the aether is nothing more than tapping into the "dark" energy that exists everywhere, even on Earth.

Telsa either was able to tap into this (Wardyncliffe) or was very close.

I don't know about the "ball" but extracting the energy that binds atoms together. Stronger than the "nuclear force" that exists between atoms.

The idea of a ball ("sphere") is that it can be cast in any material without a given weak point. All pressure points are equal to one another. If a hollow sphere were to be pressurized equally on it's entire surface ,and the sphere is of adequate density, then it would maintain integrity. SO in reverse... a vacuum would be the same if it were formed in the hollow non conductive sphere;(glass? ceramic?). I would think that you might want to gold plate the outside to reduce radiant intake.You would need to "chill" it to as low a level as possible. The total vacuum would have to be even free from random radiation if at all possible. Shielding materials cast into it would help. Now with magnetic flux fields passing though it at the right frequency or frequencies you should be able to "draw" from this. But What would you use on the inside to draw the energy to the outside? A compressive coil? diepole plates as has been brought up? The space between the atom has now been widened.. but ... how to tap it. Ok your turns....( these are thoughts of my own) correct me whenever I'm wrong or your idea differs...that's what this is for ..

1 idea is an idea....
A million ideas is a databse of knowledge....


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O.K. another thread had a link to an artical about perhaps a breakthrough in fusion power or at least obtaining a room temperature fusion reaction.

I want to make one correction in that the nuclear force (strong or weak) is what binds the particals in the nucleus together and that they must be very close togehter indeed.

The fusion power article started me thinking. In this article, they have a crystal where atoms are pretty much in alignment. They then heat the crystal (pyroelectric) causing a charge to develop across the crystal. When a conductor is placed against the crystal, the charge then is forced to a single point, causing the atoms to smash into each other and TADA fusion!

So the conduction was the concentrator catalyst. Like an implosion engine, the power is obtained when a substance is concentrated and broken down. What if there was a way to get dark matter to concentrate to a point? What happens when this dark matter is broken down or can it be? What is the limit?

We need something that could focus this dark matter. If we are able to get tremendous energy from atoms that we know, how much more is obtainable from the other 99% of matter in the universe.

First, we need a vacuum. Second, we need a way to get dark matter to concentrate (implode?) within this vacuum. Third, we need a way to focus this dark matter to a point, so that it can be withdrawn. All this done without putting in more work that what is drawn out.

That is my question also.. Tell me... what is a strong force without matter. I would have to check (memory's dull). I believe that would be a magnetic flux field. Without the presence of matter in a void would it not possibly cause a polarity in the dark matter? Possibly drawing it into the flux field as a vibration as you can do with microwave, foil and magnets. (or a guitar pickup.) See where i am going? Through the proper configuration and alignment of a specialized magnetic group a vortex could be formed in the vacuum.
Example... in Texas a spinning magnetic storage system is used to pack (concentrate) energy to the point of plasma. to release the energy the wheel is slowed slighty. if it were to stop a major explosive release would occur. So maybe by causing a magnetic vortex it might be able to draw in the dark matter into the magnetic field and allow it to be drawn. The more you pull the more it opens for use. To a point at least.I believe the size and material make up would restrict the flow at some point. Overheating thus causing resistance.

zero point energy... an interesting concept... well in the space between atoms there actually is something called quantum foam. it is a hard concept to explain but i will try anyway. imagine a sponge and the holes are atoms. now if you look really closely at the sponge you can see many more smaller holes. those are wormholes. and the actual material that the sponge is made of is space-time or energy. and anothere thing is, the samlloles are constantly appearing,l disappearing, and moving. so there really is something between the atoms.

zero point energy... an interesting concept... well in the space between atoms there actually is something called quantum foam. it is a hard concept to explain but i will try anyway. imagine a sponge and the holes are atoms. now if you look really closely at the sponge you can see many more smaller holes. those are wormholes. and the actual material that the sponge is made of is space-time or energy. and anothere thing is, the samlloles are constantly appearing,l disappearing, and moving. so there really is something between the atoms.

Originally posted by lonemaverick
zero point energy... an interesting concept... well in the space between atoms there actually is something called quantum foam. it is a hard concept to explain but i will try anyway. imagine a sponge and the holes are atoms. now if you look really closely at the sponge you can see many more smaller holes. those are wormholes. and the actual material that the sponge is made of is space-time or energy. and anothere thing is, the samlloles are constantly appearing,l disappearing, and moving. so there really is something between the atoms.

A little simplistic on the explanation but a good one LOL...
But it seems you understand it the way I do.
SO what do you think of my concept... Separating the atoms by creating a wide spaced void between them with the use of the vacuum? What do you think of the use of a magnetic field as a collector? As you know you can not introduce material into the void as it would become the matter you just eliminated. Or would this matter actually be what is needed to harvest the "sponge"contents as a sponge does to water?




[edit on 8-6-2005 by synystyr69]