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Originally posted by Logsti
The Three major religions Christianity/Judaism/Muslim.
All have a major profit or saviour depicted in each of their histories as to which people are to believe in and follow in order to be a better Christian/Jew/Muslim.
Anyhow, my point of this is why in these three major religions are we taught to trust in these grand mythical beings as well as God and not just God itself?
I am not big believing in my birth religion but I do believe there is a higher being/power in this world and that Jesus/Mohammed and Moshiach are creations of a devilish persuasion to encourage people to waiver their faith and stretch it thin between two beings instead of one. Aren't we supposed to give our undevided attention to God and only God? No false idols (ala. the story with Moses on Mt Sinai and the golden idols).
P.S. I am Jewish by birth and I am glad in a way they do not have a huge emphasis on their saviour Moshiach as Christianity and the Muslims faiths do.
Any thoughts on this?
Originally posted by Logsti
The Three major religions Christianity/Judaism/Muslim.
All have a major profit or saviour depicted in each of their histories as to which people are to believe in and follow in order to be a better Christian/Jew/Muslim.
Any thoughts on this?
Originally posted by Logsti
The Three major religions Christianity/Judaism/Muslim.
All have a major profit or saviour depicted in each of their histories as to which people are to believe in and follow in order to be a better Christian/Jew/Muslim.
Any thoughts on this?
Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
I spoke to a couple of Muslim friends, and they were telling me about some plans a director had for a movie about the life of Mohammed, until he learned that he wouldn't be able to have Mohammed appear in the movie, unless he wanted to anger a whole bunch of Muslims.
Originally posted by betaiso
Originally posted by Logsti
The Three major religions Christianity/Judaism/Muslim.
All have a major profit or saviour depicted in each of their histories as to which people are to believe in and follow in order to be a better Christian/Jew/Muslim.
Any thoughts on this?
Any thoughts? More than you ever bargain for!!! I think you are a white-skinned European/American with a bloated ego, it is so typical that Westerner see themself as the centre of the world and carefully ignoring the lesser nation.
Where is India and China? do they not on this planet? if they do, Buddhism, Hinduism are surely more major and bigger than Judaism
Let me list down the four major/biggest religions in the world (planet Earth) for you... i.e. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, well... if you consider Buddhism = Hinduism then they are the biggest religion in the World
- peace -
Originally posted by St Udio
Originally posted by Logsti
The Three major religions Christianity/Judaism/Muslim.
All have a major profit or saviour depicted in each of their histories as to which people are to believe in and follow in order to be a better Christian/Jew/Muslim.
Any thoughts on this?
The Three Major Religions, were all created from/in the Desert.
All three religions are Male Dominated, Partriarchial models.
all three came about by 'overthrowing' the older Goddess/nature/Gaia/Sophia model religions
?why? do they follow certain dogmas & rituals?-> to perpetuate their worldview(s)...
one of which, is that mankind must undergo the hammerings and fires of the worlds' black-smiths...
to be formed into a strong & resilient steel, which is then fashioned into useful tools by those priestly smiths',
that is one tiny package of thought i have about the Big 3 desert born faiths
Originally posted by Logsti
The Three major religions Christianity/Judaism/Muslim.
All have a major profit or saviour depicted in each of their histories as to which people are to believe in and follow in order to be a better Christian/Jew/Muslim.
Anyhow, my point of this is why in these three major religions are we taught to trust in these grand mythical beings as well as God and not just God itself?
P.S. I am Jewish by birth and I am glad in a way they do not have a huge emphasis on their saviour Moshiach as Christianity and the Muslims faiths do.
Any thoughts on this?
Originally posted by Logsti
and Jewish is important because it is basically the source of all the other modern religions (not including things stolen from Pagan religions)
Originally posted by Croat56
Originally posted by Logsti
and Jewish is important because it is basically the source of all the other modern religions (not including things stolen from Pagan religions)
Yes the Jewish religion was important, but then Jesus came and He is our savior. Im assuming the pagan thing is directed at catholics(which most of those outragouse remarks are). There is no paganism in it. There were like some symbols they took on just to make the transition to christianity easier, but I never see them anywhere.
Originally posted by Croat56
Your right smadewell. I didnt meant to say it like that. The Jewish religion is very important. It layed the way for Jesus to come. I meant to say it was important for Jesus to come. Jesus was jewish. The old testiment is cool .
[edit on 6/5/2005 by Croat56]
Originally posted by smadewell
Croat56, I'd expect those remarks from a backwoods Christian Fundie, but not from an enlighten Catholic gentlemen like yourself. Then again.... I guess the pronouncements that came out of the Second Vatican Council regarding Judaism haven't exactly trickled down to the laity yet. After all it’s only been what...? 40 years!? :shk:
Sadly, there's no way of talking to someone like yourself about the historical person, Yeshua ben Yosef (aka Jesus), especially in light of the fact that you haven't adopted the "official line" of your own Church with regard to Judaism. How sad.... :shk:
Originally posted by Raphael_UO
While I agree that Croat's statement wasn't "politically correct", I do not think it disagrees with the "official line" of the RCC.
The history of Judaism did not end with the destruction of Jerusalem, but rather went on to develop a religious tradition. And, although we believe that the importance and meaning of that tradition were deeply affected by the coming of Christ, it is still nonetheless rich in religious values.
Source
Originally posted by smadewell
I could multiply such quotes, but I think these will suffice to demonstrate that the RCC, via the Second Vatican Council, has taken a huge step forward in attempting to mend and heal Jewish-Christian relations, if not in deed, then at least in word. I just wish more of the Catholic laity would take this document to heart.
Originally posted by Raphael_UO
Originally posted by smadewell
I could multiply such quotes, but I think these will suffice to demonstrate that the RCC, via the Second Vatican Council, has taken a huge step forward in attempting to mend and heal Jewish-Christian relations, if not in deed, then at least in word. I just wish more of the Catholic laity would take this document to heart.
The quote I gave from the Guidelines and Suggestions for Implementing the Conciliar Declaration "Nostra Aetate" is the "official line" concerning the Second Vatican Council's declaration. I do not think Croat disagreed with that "official line". There is no getting around the issue that from a RCC perspective the importance of Jewish tradition was "deeply affected" by the coming of Christ.
Not being able to mention that issue for fear of upsetting someone is ridiculous.
Originally posted by smadewell
At least there's some hope for dialogue, no?
This is a far better approach than the one the Church pursued during the Middle Ages, no?