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"Prayer" to aliens can create real contact???

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posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 02:00 AM
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Da-da-da-dum.

Can you say Bad Idea?

What an 'Entity' wants is to be able to influence you.
What an 'Entity' wants is for you to trust it.
What an 'Entity' wants is your energy.
What you get in exchange is probably negotiable to an extent.
What they get in exchange is probably out of your control.

All folk lore holds the answer. All 'wolves in sheeps clothing' HAVE to be invited into your mind, it is the only way they can be effective and take root.

The most successful lie is the hardest to believe. Demons created the Devil, so their existence could be refuted, and Man accepted it as a part of himself, as his own creation, his own supposed dark side.

A new guise has been unleashed, and like all other times, the guise is being perceived as the authentic article.
No human plot of this size could succeed on its own.

No supernatural plot of this nature stands a chance without willing co-operation.


[edit on 6-6-2005 by akilles]




posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 02:03 AM
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I would like to echo some of the concerns put forward by others here. If these things and this phenomenon is real, I sincerely doubt that they/it comes from God or anything good. I would use utmost caution in doing stuff like this.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 04:35 AM
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I have often wondered the power of the collective human race gathered together, clear minded, peaceful yet steadfast in there mind. Together in our minds asking the creator to help us. To spark the light within our souls as a race not just individuals.

The power of thought from 6,444,960,515 people on the same thought would be a feeling no one can imagine. We underestimate ourselfs.

[edit on 6-6-2005 by 7th_Chakra]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 07:13 AM
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I concur with the whistleblowers in this thread. If you telepathically align yourselves through prayer and meditation to those discarnates in Group Entities who work with and influence the incarnate Zetans, you will eventually find yourselves not only seeing Zetan spacecraft/probes and Greys in your midst, but are also likely to be targeted for paralysis; to then wake up in a cage of sorts and treated like laboratory animals.


As others have stated or implied, these beings are not of God or of The Light.

Some ventures are foolhardy. Telepathically declaring: "Please use me as your next medical experiment!" is definitely one of them



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 07:56 AM
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The aliens are people like we are people and God created them too. All known races in all the known Universes believe in the same one God, but no other race thinks of God like we do. Only humans on this Earth have this stubborn, self-inflicted superstitious concept of evil, devil, demons and hell. This is one of the largest reasons other races have "such" a difficult time approaching us on any level.

Our neighboring races of people have visited our planet since before humans were here. We humans have had personal contact with alien life since we have been sentient. We will always have contact, but how steadily we progress with it is entirely contingent on us. All advanced races know each other and work together. We too are naturally working toward our own advancement and we can't do it alone.

If you discover an opportunity to converse with people of another race, give it a try and see for yourself. Make up your own mind. No one who does not want contact with alien life has to accept it. Personal contact can end at any time, and it usually does due to our circumstantial unwillingness and inability to handle it. The more humans who take the initiative for our race, the sooner we will begin the permanent end to the needless suffering of life and depletion of resources on our planet.

There are no more abductions happening to any humans by any alien race. All contact is consensual. Each of the 218 races visiting Earth are organized now under one leadership of the most advanced of them and contradictory races can no longer visit. This has recently been completed because of the recent point we humans have reached in our evolution.

This happens to every world of intelligent life at this equivalent point. We are not the worst race ever, but this human race is certainly among the most stubborn and difficult to work with.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 08:08 AM
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OK I'll bite. I'll go try it but can someone give me a step by step guide of what I'm supposedto do?



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by EarthSister
There are no more abductions happening to any humans by any alien race. All contact is consensual.


We have something that the aliens also have: it is called a BRAIN. If we use it wisely, then we learn to judge others not by their propaganda but by their actions. Kidnapping many innocents for medical experimentation, a long-term breeding program, dissection, to steal their unborn fetus, brainwashing, etc., ARE NOT Acts of Compassion performed by those aligned with God or The Light


EarthSister, what evidence do you have to present to us, outside of your purported contact with physical aliens (which you cannot produce photographs to prove), to support these unsupported claims of incarnate alien benevolence when there is abundant abductee testimonial evidence which points to the physical aliens being hostile and Service-To-Self oriented?

[edit on 6-6-2005 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 09:26 AM
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What if we are summoming them and its some sort of loophole or we are summoning whoever is lisening/closet, instead of chosing

E.g i have read somewhere (a while back) that if you ask for them (Aliens or so) to appear they will or something about cosmic awarance (all tied into eachother anyway)


Carn't really explane

But say if they were "banned" from here or something and that asking them to come would give them access

E.g like a Democracy (you most likley would'nt let Hitler come to power again if he was alive and still Nazi'ish, but what if the population was Manipulated into voting him in as a president or so (say instead of Bush) and he got in, even if it wasn't in everyones best intrest, he would still be YOUR leader, weather you wanted him to stay or not, even tho you know you made a mistake he would be here because its what you voted, weather you liked it or not and realised it was a mistake but due to laws he stays

E.g Alien A banned from this planet by other Alien B group , but due to freewill ect people request an audience with Alien A so there is nothing really the other Alien B group can do within their laws (due to its us aware and asking) so they cannot stop it because its our choice due to it being a loophole in the laws, even tho if Alien A were not in our best intrests

I know, badly explaned example, but i cannot think how to word it

[edit on 6-6-2005 by Crash]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 10:08 AM
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If it is so easy to summon UFO's (and yeah I tried unsuccessfully)
then why hasn't any one posted any pics or video....

come on...
show me... don't tell me...



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:26 AM
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Paul_Richard

You don't believe anything I say, and that is fine by me and I mean that with all my heart. I respect your beliefs even though I disagree with your entire position as well, and most of what you say. I don't want to argue or debate but I see no way of avoiding your post or of agreeing with you, so I will just say it the way I see it.

I want you to know that when I ignore you it is only to respect your firm opinion and to avoid a fruitless, heated debate over our differences.


Originally posted by Paul_Richard

Originally posted by EarthSister
There are no more abductions happening to any humans by any alien race. All contact is consensual.


We have something that the aliens also have: it is called a BRAIN. If we use it wisely, then we learn to judge others not by their propaganda but by their actions.


That is why people who can, should find out for themselves through their own contact. Those who can but don't want to, don't have to. Those brave enough to try are the only ones who learn the truth for themselves.


EarthSister, what evidence do you have to present to us, outside of your purported contact with physical aliens (which you cannot produce photographs to prove), to support these unsupported claims of incarnate alien benevolence when there is abundant abductee testimonial evidence which points to the physical aliens being hostile and Service-To-Self oriented?


I have no physical evidence to publicly prove my personal experiences. That's the way it is for all of us who work with alien life. Any proof anybody gets about me, they get through their own experience, and their own experience is about the alien races and their own contact with them, not about me.

Any "evidence" authentic or fabricated can be used to prove "anything" somebody wants, to anybody they want, and that's why the alien races so carefully protect evidence of themselves from misuse, and protect their human contacts from physically, personally having it. Instead, the alien races put evidence of themselves all over Planet Earth throughout our history for all to see. Don't worry, you don't have to know what it all means right now, it's all well-documented and will still be here when we are ready as a race to recognize it at any minute. Right now, any little piece of personal evidence could still easily be used to discredit somebody like me, and it is important that we are free to speak out and be heard, regardless of being believed. The more physical evidence a person has, the more fodder to discredit them with. It is better to just let people think and experience and learn for themselves.

If you don't know what a piece of evidence means, it may as well mean the opposite, against the truth, like is working with you. As long as the public is scared and ignorant, this is done easily. Anyone can see that this is a problem we have ongoing "in our minds" throughout our societies and legal systems every day. Look at any court case- it doesn't matter what really happened, it only matters what somebody can make the evidence mean to you, by the power of social and political status of who declares what it means. The more ignorant and misled you-the-jury are, the easier it is to trick you. The more "professional" the prosecution appears to be, the more believable whatever they contend. None of all that is about the truth at all.

This subject of alien visitation is not treated any differently on Earth than any other "unknown" yet, and the average people trying to figure things out don't suddenly become knowledgeable enough to see through the deceptions because they are being taught what to think by those deceiving them. Only people who personally get to know the alien races can truly teach others about the alien races. The rest who claim to know things are only recycling propaganda, either by accident or on purpose.

You describe my own testimony of my own experiences as unsupported, and that's ok- I understand that because you don't know me or the alien races. But you vehemently support the detrimental public impression of alien contact by repeating and exaggerating popular beliefs. You refer to the propaganda as "abundant abductee testimonial evidence" but you even admit that you don't even have any personal experience yourself. You just read and reread all of the propaganda. To silly people, and there are a lot of them, just because they read something, that means to them that it is in some way true, and if they read the same thing ten times, that means it probably happened ten times. And if they find ten more people who read the same thing, that proves ten more times to themselves that they are correct in their thinking and beliefs. That's how propaganda works.

The people know the alien races are real, but not their nature. They know they are being lied to, but not by whom. They know the leading govts are hiding the truth of what they know about alien life, but nothing of what the govts know. They know the leading govts are generating copious false information to keep them confused and afraid of the aliens, but not what is a lie and what is the truth sandwiched all together in layers and hand fed to them. Like you, they just keep eating it up, measuring lies against lies, with just enough truth in there to keep them hunting the maze created to keep them busy away from the whole truth. What is missing and what they need is the alien point of view.

Just because you say 100 times that there is "abundant abductee testimonial evidence" doesn't mean that there is. I am one person with a great deal of personal experience with many races and I know what I know for myself. I don't know everything, but I choose to decide for myself by what I learn from my own experience. THIS is what I strongly suggest to everyone else, including you.










[edit on 6/6/2005 by EarthSister]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:34 AM
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Earth sister you posts are soo filled with knowledge.I believe in you but tell me when will exactly disclosure happen cuz thats what everyone wants.If aliens are doing their mission in secret then they are hostile imo.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Paul_Richard

As others have stated or implied, these beings are not of God or of The Light.

Some ventures are foolhardy. Telepathically declaring: "Please use me as your next medical experiment!" is definitely one of them


First of all, what makes you think that WE are of god or of The Light? Why, or how, is it that we consider ourselfs the good guys? We rape and destroy the earth so bad it is visable from space, and kill each other ALL the time. How many people do you know that have died at the hands of aleins?

Also, I would probibly be better off going to an alein doctor than a human one, the alien doctors are less in the pockets of the pharmacutical corps than the human ones.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Crash
What if we are summoming them and its some sort of loophole or we are summoning whoever is lisening/closet, instead of chosing


All of the different kinds of "invisible" life forms can already see you and could approach you any time they wanted, if they want, and sometimes they do. You are already surrounded by many of your own familiar spiritual friends and family. They are who you would attract the interest of if you started exercising your spiritual abilities to be aware and communicate. For some humans, their circle of friends and family includes people who are visiting Earth from other worlds.

Anybody might see an alien craft. But personal alien contact is possible any time through life, and most who have it don't even know it on a physical level. You can't attract personal alien encounters unless you have a natural connection to an alien race.

If you have a natural connection to another race, those who you may attract for contact are your own related alien family who have always known you, and know who you are to them. As scary as all of the unknowns are, they have always been here, and there is really nothing to be afraid of.











[edit on 6/6/2005 by EarthSister]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by warthog911
Earth sister you posts are soo filled with knowledge.I believe in you but tell me when will exactly disclosure happen cuz thats what everyone wants.If aliens are doing their mission in secret then they are hostile imo.


Thank you for your support, warthog


The leading govts will "never" disclose any of what they are hiding about alien life because it is all tied up with their own crimes. We are going to have to find it all out for ourselves in spite of them. Anyway, the govts hardly know anything about the alien races- they only know as much as alien races want them to know.

The organization of visiting races is working with many individual humans out of the public eye, and all are working toward a successful grand open début to the whole world via Japan. I don't know exactly when it is going to happen, but things are progressing behind the scenes very quickly now.












[edit on 6/6/2005 by EarthSister]



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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...they are being taught what to think by those deceiving them...

Question: How can you be sure that the existence of, communication with, and visitation by 'aliens' are all not part of a much greater deception?



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 12:46 PM
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i'm going to try this, does anyone have any suggestions on what exactly i should do. like how do i direct my thoughts, or prayers, to them. and do i have to be outside, or can i ask them to come to me inside(due to the fact that i want to do this sooner, rather than later and it is raining like hell outside)? any and all help would be greatly appreciated



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by EarthSister
You describe my own testimony of my own experiences as unsupported, and that's ok- I understand that because you don't know me or the alien races. But you vehemently support the detrimental public impression of alien contact by repeating and exaggerating popular beliefs. You refer to the propaganda as "abundant abductee testimonial evidence" but you even admit that you don't even have any personal experience yourself.


I never said that I didn't have any personal experience. But I did state that you are promoting a view of the aliens that is unsupported. Not only are we to believe only your channeled/telepathic testimony, but I see you as damaging to innocents who are not knowledgable of how self-serving and corrupt the aliens are in using many as laboratory animals, slaves, etc.

We are all to believe that the anal-probing, fetus-stealing, spiritually indifferent aliens are benign simply because you say so.

Newsflash: without corroborating links/evidence to back up what you say, you come across to many people as an alien propagandist.


Originally posted by EarthSister
Just because you say 100 times that there is "abundant abductee testimonial evidence" doesn't mean that there is.


I have supplied many links on this subject which support my stance. While you have yet to supply any. The upshot is that I have a great deal to support my perspective while you have only your whacked opinion.

EarthSister, you have never met a physical alien, you just channel alien spirits who you illustrate on your website. If you had contact with physical aliens, then you would have photographs to prove it. I therefore conclude that you and your husband, Jack, are nothing less than frauds, as neither of you have ever had any contact with actual physical aliens


So yes, everytime you promote your propaganda about the physical aliens that abduct many of us, and I am around, I will continue to chime in to expose you as just as an alien spirit channeler who continues to promote false alien propaganda.

Count on it.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by blackholebrain
...they are being taught what to think by those deceiving them...

Question: How can you be sure that the existence of, communication with, and visitation by 'aliens' are all not part of a much greater deception?


I can be sure because the more I see of how our own world is being run, the more sinister reasons I find for deception by those running it. And the more I learn from the advanced races about the advanced races and the order of the space we share from world to world, to galaxy to galaxy, the more intelligence, organization and progression I see throughout the rest of the Universe.

My govt harasses and abducts people like me to collect information about alien life, which I know about from my personal experience with govt. Whenever the aliens teach a human something important and the human tries to share it around, he becomes a target for govt agents, in danger of "no end" to what the govt will do under the guise of national security. On the other hand, my alien contacts do all they can to protect me and my family from agents of special interest groups and govt, and choose very carefully what I can know about and speak publicly about.

There is a greater deception on Earth than anybody not part of it could realize. And the alien races simply being here is threatening to expose it, which will mean a progressive change to how we live on Earth.

There are humans who work inside govt who have spiritual abilities beyond most humans, and beyond what is natural to humans, who can travel out of body and meet and communicate with people very much like the advanced races meet with us. I know this from my personal experience also. The humans who can be aware and communicate with these agents can be tricked into thinking and believing just about anything about who and what they are, especially if they do not have a firm trust, and understanding of, their alien contact, if they have it.

This is the greater deception I see-- when the originally truly motivated alien experiencers speak up and become known publicly, and then the govt agents move in to seduce and mislead the poor person into being a working component of their own disinformation campaign against the validity of alien life and contact instead. Their new great "friends" give the person lots of attention and lots of conflicting information, scaring them and threatening them, and easily turn their public reputation into something like a flake.



posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Wgatenson

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

As others have stated or implied, these beings are not of God or of The Light.

Some ventures are foolhardy. Telepathically declaring: "Please use me as your next medical experiment!" is definitely one of them


First of all, what makes you think that WE are of god or of The Light? Why, or how, is it that we consider ourselfs the good guys? We rape and destroy the earth so bad it is visable from space, and kill each other ALL the time. How many people do you know that have died at the hands of aleins?


You know, you've got a point there. There are many evil people on this planet. I stated what I did with the idea in mind that I am referring to the small percentage that does strive to live by The Golden Rule and to serve others.

How many people have died at the hands of aliens in recent years?

You don't want to know.


Originally posted by Wgatenson
Also, I would probibly be better off going to an alein doctor than a human one, the alien doctors are less in the pockets of the pharmacutical corps than the human ones.


Yes, it is true that the medical community has many problems, like widespread incompetance, and that most of them tend "to be in bed with the pharmaceutical companies" -- as a doctor of nutrition that I know has said.

But with all their problems, the Terran medical community generally does not look upon us and use us as laboratory animals (e.g., for breeding a hybrid race) and slaves.

In light of this, one's freedom to choose becomes an important issue.




posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Paul_Richard

Originally posted by EarthSister
You describe my own testimony of my own experiences as unsupported, and that's ok- I understand that because you don't know me or the alien races. But you vehemently support the detrimental public impression of alien contact by repeating and exaggerating popular beliefs. You refer to the propaganda as "abundant abductee testimonial evidence" but you even admit that you don't even have any personal experience yourself.


I never said that I didn't have any personal experience. But I did state that you are promoting a view of the aliens that is unsupported. Not only are we to believe only your channeled/telepathic testimony, but I see you as damaging to innocents who are not knowledgable of how self-serving and corrupt the aliens are in using many as laboratory animals, slaves, etc.

We are all to believe that the anal-probing, fetus-stealing, spiritually indifferent aliens are benign simply because you say so.

Newsflash: without corroborating links/evidence to back up what you say, you come across to many people as an alien propagandist.


Yes I heard your one personal experience with something you couldn't even see. It doesn't sound real to me but hey, I don't know everything. You can believe and claim anything you like about it and it doesn't bother me. You admitted as well that you were not even sure it was anything like people from another world.

If you have one, you should show everybody your own picture that you took of aliens using people as laboratory animals and slaves, probing anuses, stealing fetuses, etc. That must be how you know that is true.

I see a lot of humans like that on the news but I have never seen any of the aliens doing those things. That's what I go by, not by what YOU say, just because you read it at some link or a hundred links. Links are a dime a dozen like tabloid mags. You should know by now that barely any bit of those stories are true.


Originally posted by EarthSister
Just because you say 100 times that there is "abundant abductee testimonial evidence" doesn't mean that there is.

I have supplied many links on this subject which support my stance. While you have yet to supply any. The upshot is that I have a great deal to support my perspective while you have only your whacked opinion.


You have the support of the entire disinformation organization. You represent it.

My whole point that seems to have gotten you so angry with me is that people should find out for themselves. You must be afraid that the people will meet the aliens and find out that they are incredibly interesting and intelligent, and nothing like the monsters you make them out to be.


EarthSister, you have never met a physical alien, you just channel alien spirits who you illustrate on your website. If you had contact with physical aliens, then you would have photographs to prove it. I therefore conclude that you and your husband, Jack, are nothing less than frauds, as neither of you have ever had any contact with actual physical aliens


So yes, everytime you promote your propaganda about the physical aliens that abduct many of us, and I am around, I will continue to chime in to expose you as just as an alien spirit channeler who continues to promote false alien propaganda.

Count on it.


Like I said, my friend, believe or disbelieve anything you like. But this line sounds like a threat to follow me around and harass me on ATS. Try that and see what happens.

I am going back to ignoring you now. I would appreciate it if you would do the same for me. Thank you.

[edit on 6/6/2005 by EarthSister]



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