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Scientific American Jumps On 911 Denial Wagon, ATS mentioned

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posted on Jun, 3 2005 @ 05:35 PM
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Well it seems ATS is in the news again. Think what you will.


Scientific American Jumps On 911 Denial Wagon


Fahrenheit 2777

9/11 has generated the mother of all conspiracy theories
By Michael Shermer

Snip

Noted French left-wing activist Thierry Meyssan's 9/11 conspiracy book, L'Effroyable Imposture, became a best-seller in 2002. But I never imagined such an "appalling deception" would ever find a voice in America

The planes did not bring those towers down; bombs did," says www.abovetopsecret.com. Wrong.

source



Reply to Scientific American's Attempted Debunking of 9/11 Skeptics


Reply to Scientific American's Attempted Debunking of 9/11 Skeptics


www.serendipity.li...

//ed to shorten link//


Edit: I'll post this at the beginning and end of the thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is a copy and paste reproduced with permission with accompanying links.

I guess the reporter at Scientific American didn't read too carefully or wasn't too interested in minor details like correct attributation.

So these are not even the views of members but a member reported what someone else said.







[edit on 5-6-2005 by John bull 1]




posted on Jun, 3 2005 @ 05:44 PM
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That's great. How nice of him to group everyone together under that particular claim. Nevermind that was most likely from an individual thread, by one particular member. Even if it was from an article, he should've stated the name of the article, the url, whatever. If anyone is interested, his email address is under the contact page of skeptic.com.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 06:38 PM
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I think that was an outstanding article.

The guy who posted a 'rebuttal' on Rense just helps support the Scientific American article. That guy simply points to all the quacks who have been debunked time and time again as proff of a conspiracy. Typical Rense material.

I think the people who read the Scientific American article and still believe that the US Gov was responsible for 911 should have Gullible written under their screen name on the left.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 06:45 PM
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Sooooooo kind of wondering where the specific ATS involvement is there Sauron?

Dallas



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 06:48 PM
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Short, sweet and to the point. The 9/11 conspiracy theories are truly ridiculous!



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 06:52 PM
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Well media attention is good as always in all cases....makes people aware of ATS.....

But ATS did NOT say


The planes did not bring those towers down; bombs did

Members said that in a thread im guessing....

Could the owner of ATS sue for like millions of dollars for falsely quoting his website the he owns?



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 06:57 PM
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You are correct SportyMB...as far as I can tell the official position of ATS is very skeptical of 9/11 conspiracy theories. Just because that's the subject of a user's thread doesn't mean that it's ATS's position. Scientific American should issue a correction.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sauron
The planes did not bring those towers down; bombs did," says www.abovetopsecret.com. Wrong.


He's supposed to be an authority and can't even get simple citation right?

This website didn't say anything of the sort. Someone on it may have. Big difference. This is outrageous.

If a guest at Six Flags wears an "I Hate Puppies" T-Shirt does Michael Shermer and Scientific American publish "Six Flags Hates Puppies!"

Obviously, Scientific American and it's editors along with Michael Shermer, publisher of Skeptic have some apologies to make.

Now, if only there were some way to let them know. Hmmm.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:15 PM
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Rant, I couldn't agree more. Scientific American did ATS a grave disservice by implying that the owners and operators of thesite -- and by extension the bulk of the people like me who post here -- believe any of that conspiracy trash.

Despite our stated view to deny ignorance, SciAm's charge has put is right in the middle of all the cornflakes who do believe in a Huge Secret Plot.

If I were Simon, I'd go after those boogers with a stick.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:18 PM
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SUE!!! Come on Simon, or the Great SO, SUE! Make millions, and we will never have to click a banner or ad ever again! SUE! And we will make it into the news again! So cool!



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
SUE!!! Come on Simon, or the Great SO, SUE! Make millions, and we will never have to click a banner or ad ever again! SUE! And we will make it into the news again! So cool!

That's what Im talking about!!! I say we sue for like 33 million bucks then split it up between the NON-9/11 conspiracy believers...like myself.

Ahh, wishful thinking



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:27 PM
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I sent off an email having a whinge to the editor. If enough of us do it he might make a correction in the next issue



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by drfunk
I sent off an email having a whinge to the editor. If enough of us do it he might make a correction in the next issue

Awesome
Can you give us the Email adress or the link to the Email Page?

Thanks



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:30 PM
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Though I cannot truely understand the mechanical undertakings of 9/11, I do believe regardless that 9/11 was not commited by Osama Bin Laden, but through a token of gratitude by the Saudi Royal Family with links within the United States. The subsequent events that transpired speak volumes; 9/11 opened doors for impunitive powers, more power to the executive branch, and a new enemy in luie of Communists, not to mention new markets for American capitalism.

I find it very funny that news sources have gave little mention of the 4 Saudi Royals who were found to be in contanct with the Hijackers of 9/11, even funnier than thier dubious deaths..

Deep



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posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:39 PM
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I'm so embarrassed!

SO should ask them to make a correction. They put naughty words in my mouth!



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:48 PM
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Here's some emails if you wish to ask for some corrections or enlighten these publications to the truth about ATS


If you wish to email the editors of Scientific American go here :

Scientific American Editorial Correspondence

If you wish to send a editorial letter to Skeptic Magazine go here :

SkepticMag Editorial

Finally, if you wish to write an email to correct the man who slandered our good name in his article
go here :

Dr Michael Schermer

thanks,
drfunk


[edit on 4-6-2005 by drfunk]



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 07:49 PM
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We are truly seeing a shift in America here. For a newstand rag to begin influencing people and publishing editorials like this is abhorrent. I sent a letter to the editor once and got it printed in SciAm. I am now embarassed to have ever written to them. I'll never buy another copy due to the obfuscation and manipulation I see here.

The 9/11 report is a pastiche of lies. No matter how many times they try to bury the matter, Americans will not forget the largest mass murder on our nation's soil and we will never stop digging until all videotapes/audiotapes are released and we know the truth. Guys like Shermer are impotent to stop that process and they should be duly ignored.


SMR

posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 08:01 PM
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Definitly a wrong thing to do.

While I am one member who believes in something fishy about 9/11, it is still my ( one person ) opinion and not that of an entire community.
I am quite sure they know ATS is not only a website,but a discussion board.
I cant imagin someone being so stupid as to put an entire community into ONE group.Either they ( the person who wrote this ) are pissed at the popularity of ATS, or are just not cut out to be a journalist in todays interent news.

Emailing the site requesting a correction needs to be done.I will be sending one out for sure.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 08:03 PM
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Shermer would be a great guest speaker or exclusive interview for ATS. He's the most skeptical man alive. An aethiest that vehemently disputes creationists, he doesn't believe in ESP, or aliens, or government conspiracies. I've read his books and heard him do a few interviews. The man doesn't believe in anything

A trade should be made: Him as a guest speaker for Simon not suing him for misrepresenting ATS in Skeptic Magazine.



posted on Jun, 4 2005 @ 08:07 PM
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Below is the only ATS thread I could find with search which had that exact phrase.

The planes did not bring those towers down; bombs did

The quoted phrase is second paragraph, first sentance.

It appears to be a full article cut and paste from Alex Jones Prison Planet.com


As a side note, I think the saying is, "any publicity is good publicity".



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