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Originally posted by Kyuudousha
I agree with the sentiments of 'good' and all the rest of it but there is no getting away from the fact that Masons will tend towards doing business with other Masons if possible. They will help each other out where they can, if they can. It's human nature after all.
Certainly Freemasonry can be used for 'back scratching' should you so wish. Why waste time and effort denying it?
I think that this is where a lot of this paranoia regarding the Masons stems from. In this rather cynical world in which we all live now (unfortunately) people don't believe that other people will do things for the good of others anymore.
Originally posted by Cug
Is Free Masonry good, evil, neither?
Originally posted by Kyuudousha
I never said that at all. I obviously mentioned the Freemasons because this is a discussion thread about the Masons. I am well aware that back scratching will go on in all forms of any society. I just pointed out that it was human nature and NOT specific to the Masons.
I think you have read far too much into this. I never stated that this is ALL the Masons do at all. I expect the Masons are a kin to the Rotary club with their charitable works and so on.
What would seem like a good cause to some would be considered dubious to others. It's all down to your perspective really.
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
I have a question for our renound resident masons.
Does Masonry associate itself with the "All Seeing Eye" symbol as so many web sites have alluded to?
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
I have a question for our renound resident masons.
Does Masonry associate itself with the "All Seeing Eye" symbol as so many web sites have alluded to?
The "Eye Of Providence," or "All Seeing Eye" symbolically represents Deity, or the Great Architect Of The Universe. Implying that there is something sinister by "associating" Freemasonry and this symbol further illustrates your complete lack of comprehension regarding the Fraternity.
Spare us the “God of Freemasonry” tangent, the “Eye” is a universal application of the individual’s faith.
An "alluding" website:
www.masonicinfo.com...
All Seeing Monkeys, not just for TGAOTU anymore...
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Is the light of the Merkabah the light that masonry alludes to? Is Illumination, being in the presents, of the Merkabah?
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Is the light of the Merkabah the light that masonry alludes to? Is Illumination, being in the presents, of the Merkabah?
I do not know who Merkabah is, nor do I believe he has anything to do with Freemasonry.
"The Ma'aseh Merkabah should not be taught to any one except he be wise and able to deduce knowledge through wisdom ('gnosis') of his own"
The Merkabah mysteries, which remained the exclusive property of the initiated ones, the "Ẓenu'im" or "Ḥashsha'im" (see Essenes), have been preserved chiefly in the Enoch literature of the pre-Christian centuries, and in the "Hekalot" of the geonic time, known also as the "Merkabah" and "Enoch Books"
Such spiritualistic experiences through mystic rites had their origin in Egypt rather than in Persia. Jamblichus ("De Mysteriis," iii. 4, 5) describes the optic and acoustic illusions under which the Egyptian mystic labored as if they were realities, and at the same time he states that in the ecstatic state brought about by magic songs and proper environment the soul is encompassed by a chariot of light
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
And, what are your thoughts concerning the Jewish mystical "Merkabah"?
Gnostic Glossary
Mercabah (Hebrew) Literally, “chariot.” Refers to the Soul the Initiate must build.
“With patience ye will possess thy souls.” – Yeshua Hamashiah
Sahu (Egyptian) The Egyptian Sahu is the same as the Greek To Soma Heliakon, the Hebrew Merkabah; it is the Physical, Astral, Mental and Causal Solar Bodies as a whole.
To Soma Heliakon (Greek) Literally, “The Golden Body of the Solar Man.”
Originally posted by akilles
Number one criticism that is indefensible, besides the crime of secrecy already mentioned:
Lack of women.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by akilles
Number one criticism that is indefensible, besides the crime of secrecy already mentioned:
Lack of women.
What? Is there something wrong with having something for yourself? I don't see it. akilles, are you married, if so, for how long?
BTW, how many things are out there for women specifically, myriads. Why is one thing for men alone a bad thing?
As to the secrecy, I don't have a problem with it. What they do is none of my business as it doesn't affect my life. I affect my life, hell, my wife affects my life more than the Masons do. Sheesh.
Originally posted by akilles
Number one criticism that is indefensible, besides the crime of secrecy already mentioned:
Lack of women.
As has been said before, women are the driving force behind men.
"only cause the wife wanted it done that I'm doing it. I had no intentions of getting it done"
And yet, where do we find an ABUNDANCE of Feminine reference?
Well, there is the Mother Lodge, for one...
She also quietly motivates men to do her bidding. If they so choose, they can benefit from listening to her.
Originally posted by akilles
Number one criticism that is indefensible, besides the crime of secrecy already mentioned:
Lack of women.
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
I really cant see where this line of thought came from. If its your intention to covertly invite us out of the thread with the Merkabah information, so be it. Ill start a new thread........
[edit on 8-6-2005 by All Seeing Eye]
Originally posted by Trinityman
Originally posted by akilles
Number one criticism that is indefensible, besides the crime of secrecy already mentioned:
Lack of women.
www.hfaf.org...
www.co-masonry.org...
www.droit-humain.org...
I hereby put it to you, Akilles, that you have no earthly idea what you are talking about.
BTW - freemasonry isn't a secret society.