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Originally posted by XX_Mouse_XX
I can say threw my own research I have declared the Higher Masonary Lodge to accept EVIL as their source of power and affecting the physical world politically. Most of us will probably never find the truth to Mason history in our life time, but others do endless reasearch to uncover the root to this "secret society"
It is my belief that they are puppets under the control of evil and the authors of the NWO
Originally posted by mrfixit
*snip***
Trust me you have more things to be worried about than a few old fat men worried about whats to eat after the meeting HAHA.
Like Cub scouts, and Boy scouts, there are Brownies, and Girl scouts. For every unit of Freemasonry, there are two units for women. However, I understand that isn’t what you ment. It is true, that a women can't become a Freemason in title. I can tell you, my Now wife (married 2 weeks ago) isn't a member of any Masonic Family unit, yet she has done more hands on work for Freemasonry (and it's functions), and understands masonry more then most all of our 10 year members at our lodge.
No I have no interest in joining. For one I'm not interested in an all male group, I do enough things that tend to be male dominated and I think they all suffer from the lack of women.
I’m not familiar with Thelema(ism). I would like to talk with you one on one about your religion. I’m guess’n that you will get an answer that I don't think you are expecting. I wouldn't call it "Christian Morals" (but I can see the resemblance), I would probably call it more "American Morals". It is about treating EVERYONE equally (on the level), and being on the Square with EVERYONE. We are encouraged to vote, and take an active interest in our house, city, country, and world, but we are forbiden to talk Politics (or religion) in lodge.
The other reason is I can't see how Thelema could fit giving the rules of Masonry (Only one God for example.. I have several and none at the same time.). Another thing is the morals they teach seem to me to be mostly Christian morals.. I'm not Christian and I don't have Christian morals. (or Islamic or Jewish morals for that matter. Several of the eastern beliefs might come close.).
And in theory, I would like to join, just to find out what they know, so I can expose them for what they are. The only problem with this is that only 33rd degree or higher masons are told what is actually going on in the organization. The smaller ranks just perform rituals, and have secret handshakes. So it would be pointless for me to attempt this idea i had.
Originally posted by XX_Mouse_XX
I can say threw my own research I have declared the Higher Masonary Lodge to accept EVIL as their source of power and affecting the physical world politically. Most of us will probably never find the truth to Mason history in our life time, but others do endless reasearch to uncover the root to this "secret society"
Originally posted by CO_Cowboy
It is true, that a women can't become a Freemason in title. I can tell you, my Now wife (married 2 weeks ago) isn't a member of any Masonic Family unit, yet she has done more hands on work for Freemasonry (and it's functions), and understands masonry more then most all of our 10 year members at our lodge.
I’m not familiar with Thelema(ism). I would like to talk with you one on one about your religion.
Originally posted by Majestic12
And in theory, I would like to join, just to find out what they know, so I can expose them for what they are. The only problem with this is that only 33rd degree or higher masons are told what is actually going on in the organization. The smaller ranks just perform rituals, and have secret handshakes. So it would be pointless for me to attempt this idea i had.
Sad that you are actually willing to decieve a righteous group of people who take you into the fraternity and trust you as a friend.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Let him join and find out that EVERYTHING he believes about Freemasonry was a fat, steamy pile of crap and then let him stop paying his dues, stop showing up and eventually fade away like so many other members who thought Freemasonry would be something it isn't.
Originally posted by Cug
*SNIP*
OK to start things off two questions. Please give your personal opinion in your own words.
Is Free Masonry good, evil, neither? and why? Please keep it shortish for now.
Would you join the Free Masons? and why? Again shortish, If you are currently a member what were your reasons at the time you joined?
Originally posted by XX_Mouse_XX
I can say threw my own research I have declared the Higher Masonary Lodge to accept EVIL as their source of power [snip]
Originally posted by Golfie
The other thing that really intrigued me about Masonry are the traditions that are involved.
Originally posted by XX_Mouse_XX
I can say threw my own research I have declared the Higher Masonary Lodge to accept EVIL as their source of power and affecting the physical world politically. Most of us will probably never find the truth to Mason history in our life time, but others do endless reasearch to uncover the root to this "secret society"
It is my belief that they are puppets under the control of evil and the authors of the NWO
Originally posted by Cug
I have a hypothetical question for the masons who posted. What if you found some sort of nefarious plan in the "higher ups" of Masonry. What would you do?
§29010. CHARGES.
Charges may be preferred, for any or all of the following reasons, against the Grand Master, as Grand Master, during his tenure in office, by the Masters of any five Lodges of this Jurisdiction, for:
A. Abuse of his power;
B. Violation of the Constitution or Ordinances; or
C. Other unmasonic conduct.
The charges shall be in writing signed by the accusers, and presented to the last Past Grand Master of this Grand Lodge who is then residing in the State and who is a member in good standing of a Lodge in this Jurisdiction.
Originally posted by Cug
Thanks sebatwerk,
That's a new one for me.
That pretty much puts to rest the ideas that only a few highranking Masons are up to no good and the rest are just pawns.
Originally posted by Cug
senrak,
Go join sebatwerk and sit in the corner. If you wish to attack something attack the message not the person.
Originally posted by Cug
senrak,
Go join sebatwerk and sit in the corner. If you wish to attack something attack the message not the person.