you've probably seen this but, page 3

Originally posted by ktprktpr
"The President or �leader� in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights."

Who would further drive a 'wedge' into the Bill of Rights? Trying to be Lincoln (sounds like a God complex) Sounds like Bush to me, though I guess it could either way with a John Kerry, etc.

edit- Also www.anomalies.net... gives an answer to my county 2000 map question. It's the country folk fighting the city folk. The guy also says a lot of non-white folks will die, too.

[Edited on 31-8-2003 by ktprktpr]

yes, i read Bush as being the prez he's talking about for 2005... however, it should be noted that J-T thought of that prez as a good guy who failed, whereas the Prez who comes in with the 2008 elections is the real bad guy. Also, notice how J-T refers to various individuals as 'he' -- the Farmer General, for instance -- but the Prez who wins in 2008 is described with the "he/she" catch-all. Hello... Hillary Clinton?

This is how I read his story (which I don't believe, but still want to dissect):

Bush is the president in 2005. he tries to hold the country together, but is also endangering civil rights due to the war in terror. J-T sees him as an almost Lear-esque character.
Hillary Clinton wins the 2008 election... Meanwhile, between 2005 and 2008, there has been domestic turmoil that has been steadily increasing.

After this 'last' election, the civil diviosn becomes more apparent. The 'United States of America' is a collection of urban areas that support the Democrats, while a sort of 'Confederacy' exists outside of the cities. The 'USA' controls the US military and fights the militias of the 'confederacy'.

In 2015 (didn't he, jokingly, allude to March?), Russia nukes the cities aligned with the 'USA', thus giving victory to J-T's militia confederacy.

Now, besides the question of whether or not this is real--- one must ask, "if it is real, is J-T necessarily informed as to the truth?" That is, has his view of history been tainted by propaganda? It almost sounds as if a 'Cultural Revolution' has been undertaken in his time.

I'm not saying that this is, necessarily, a war between Dems and Repubs... as J-T seems to have libertarian and communist beliefs... But his statements about states rights, gun ownership, fertility issues, and other things would seem to indicate that his faction developed out of the Republican party.

Anyways.. no, I don't believe it's real.. but it is so interesting that it's worth talking about... if only from a 'literary' standpoint.