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reply posted on 30-8-2003 @ 03:34 PM by MrEisenhower
If we take all that he says for the real deal, he says 3 billion people will die in the War, now this might be an inexact number. A bit of a fishermans tale, so perhaps all these people will not die.

He also said his presence in our world line already makes it different from his because we now have knowledge his worldline didn't, this makes it possible to avoid any major genocide. He even says that we can change our future..

This guy is also very wise, when he came here into being he knew people were not going to believe in his story, and he tells everyone that skepticism is a good thing to have because then you can quetion what is right and wrong.

I used to be a short time Drama student, and in our classes we taught about characterisation and what makes a personnality and were taught to distinguish different types. When reading what John Titor writes, especially the Anomalies.com chat conversation you can really see and build up his character in your head. I can honestly say he is nothing that I can relate to, meaning that his own personnality is a world apart to what I have seen before. But there are traits in his personnality that I can see in all of us showing he still has been bought up in the 21st centuary.

He speaks with the knowledge of a traveller but not of someone who has killed, but I suppose this may have something to do with his societies acceptance of death.

What I find most interesting is that he can never get back onto his own worldline, it is physically impossible. any worldline he goes back to is within 0.002249 of his original timeline. He explains all reality existance on an infinate amount of worldlines, on one of the worldlines due to infinate possibilities one of his worldlines he will never return on. I find it strange that any person can accept this outcome, that the family he goes back to is not his real own, and that the one he left may never have him return. But I suppose this is why they are made to go through deep psychological training.

John Titor will never visit our Timeline again due to its divergance from his original timeline.

Can I also say that what John Titor says about time travel is pretty flawless. The reason it works is because of the Multiverse theory, if we lived only in a Universe on one worldline then it is technically impossible that time travel is possible because anything you do in the past destroys your own future, therefore you never existed so therefore you could not change the past, so therefore you did not change the future ... therefore it could not work, see what I am getting at?

I would like to believe this guy is real, and evidence supports him, I'd like people to try and debunk his story.

But it's more probable that he was just a very wise man who was very knowledgable in the field of time travel.


reply posted on 30-8-2003 @ 06:12 PM by Satyr
If you do happen to find this interesting, check out the "OTHER JOHN TITOR WEB LINKS". They have links to the original forums he posted in. There are quite a few people who obsess over this man's claims and go on to investigate his machine, and several other aspects of his story. There are also posts by the people he was close friends with, before he disappeared. I read quite a bit of it. There are some peculiarities, but nothing to completely debunk his story. The oddness of this man's style and character are what strikes me as most fascinating. If it is a hoax, it's almost as fascinating as if it isn't. I've found that it's one of those things that people either want to believe, or not. For some, just the geiger counter (in one picture) appearing to be an old vacuum tube model is enough for them. But, if you had a time machine (capable of bringing back devices form any time), and there was also a nuclear war that most likely destroyed most technology and production, why would that be strange at all? It's tough for me to believe that he could string people along for such a long period of time, without screwing up somewhere. I'm quite confident that I could reveal any hoax of the type with a series of questions designed to trap them into contradicting themselves.

Loki, nothing you just said makes any sense, if you read the story.

[Edited on 30-8-2003 by Satyr]


reply posted on 30-8-2003 @ 07:05 PM by Springer
Originally posted by MrEisenhower
If we take all that he says for the real deal

What I find most interesting is that he can never get back onto his own worldline, it is physically impossible. any worldline he goes back to is within 0.002249 of his original timeline. He explains all reality existance on an infinate amount of worldlines, on one of the worldlines due to infinate possibilities one of his worldlines he will never return on. I find it strange that any person can accept this outcome, that the family he goes back to is not his real own, and that the one he left may never have him return. But I suppose this is why they are made to go through deep psychological training.

John Titor will never visit our Timeline again due to its divergance from his original timeline.


Herein lies the problem with his WHOLE STORY... The guy CAN NEVER GET back to his own reality/"worldline" or whatever...

WHY would ANYBODY send him if they knew he could NEVER return? To what end would they do this?

I his own words, "My employers would never come looking for me to their perspective I am only gone a second"...

Then, in an attempt to gain psychological sympathy, he runs us through the inability to get back to his own worldline.

He can't have it both ways... Either, the whole "infinite worldline" deal is B.S. OR he NEVER RETURNS to his employers with the computer they so desperately need.

That "second" he is away and then reappears NEVER happens according to his, own theories...

PEACE...
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