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Gun Laws - Precursor to Takeover?

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posted on Jun, 24 2005 @ 11:10 AM

Originally posted by BillHicksRules

What is Elohim City? Can you link to any information on this?



Here's some good stuff. A few links and an excellent book on the Oklahoma City Bombing - ONLINE. I encourage everybody interested to read it. I give it two BIG thumbs up.

Did agents bungle US terror bomb?

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Junction City, Kansas and Andrew Gimson in Berlin

ANDREAS Strassmeir lives quietly with his parents in a well-to-do area of West Berlin. His father was once a top aide to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. His brother is a city councillor. For seven years he served in the German army, at one point doing a tour of duty as a liaison officer with the Welsh Guards.

It is hard to imagine a more unlikely figure to surface in the drama of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the worst act of terrorism ever committed on US soil. But last week an Oklahoma couple, Glenn and Kathy Wilburn, announced that they were going to name Strassmeir, 36, in a lawsuit as a "US federal informant with material knowledge of the bombing". They say that Strassmeir became involved with the far-Right underworld when he lived with the Elohim City "Christian Identity" sect on the Arkansas-Oklahoma border from 1991 to 1995.

The Wilburns lost two grandchildren in the attack on the Alfred Murrah federal building, which killed 168 people including 19 children. After taping more than 300 hours of testimony in their own investigation, they have concluded that the government had prior knowledge of the blast.

The Aryan Republican Army, Elohim City,
and the OKC Bombing

"Don't ever forget Bob Mathews and don't ever forget the
'Order'... because that's what's gonna happen again
soon.... It's coming again!.... Revolution is coming!....
It's coming sooner than you think!"
-- Dennis Mahon, July, 1991, Aryan World Congress, Hayden
Lake, Idaho.


'The Order' will go down in history books as one of

the most violent and notorious domestic terrorist groups of

the 1980s. 'The Order' was founded in 1983 by Robert J.

Mathews, a recruiter for the neo-Nazi National Alliance and

an activist in the Aryan Nations. 'The Order' drew its

members from the National Alliance, Aryan Nations, and

various Klan splinter groups throughout the country.

The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror
by David Hoffman
Copyright © 1998 David Hoffman
Published online with the irrevocable permission of the author to republish with attribution on a non-profit basis.
Hosted by the Constitution Society

Hope this helps.

edited to shorten two quotes

[edit on 24-6-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

posted on Jun, 24 2005 @ 04:55 PM
Elohim City is a private community in Eastern Oklahoma frequented by Neo-Nazi Christian Identity followers. The community gained national attention for its ties to members of the Silent Brotherhood in the 1980s and with convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh in the 1990s.

The remains of former Elohim City guest Richard Snell were released to Elohim City residents following his April 19, 1995 execution in Arkansas. Snell taunted jailers that something drastic would happen the day of his execution. The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was destroyed by a bomb in the hours before he died. Earlier criminal proceedings had produced evidence that Snell and other affiliates had visited the Murrah building to examine it as a possible bombing target.

Elohim is a Hebrew word literally meaning 'gods', but used to refer to the Jewish God.

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posted on Jun, 24 2005 @ 05:02 PM
Anyone who reads this cannot accept that foolish story of a truck bomb. It's stretches all credulity.


The Mannlicher-Carcanno Bomb

"It had to have been mined," said the gruff, gnarly voice on the other end of the line. "It's real simple. You cannot bring down a building like that without cutting charges set on the support pillars."

Bud, an ex-Green Beret who saw heavy combat in Vietnam, should know what he's talking about. Bud had military demolitions training — the kind taught to men who need to know how to blow up hardened targets.

"It couldn't have been done externally like that," added Bud. "Without cutting charges, there's just no way to do it."

Bud didn't want me to use his full name. He was worried about his VA benefits.

One man who wasn't worried about government reprisals was General Benton K. Partin. A retired U.S. Air Force Brigadier General, Partin had responsibility for the design and testing of almost every non-nuclear weapon device used in the Air Force, including precision-guided weapons designed to destroy hardened targets like the Alfred P. Murrah Building. Partin has exhaustively researched the bombing and the resulting pattern of damage.

In a letter dated May 17, 1995, hand-delivered to each member of the Congress and Senate, Partin stated:

When I first saw the pictures of the truck-bomb's asymmetrical damage to the Federal Building, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without supplementing demolition charges at some of the reinforcing concrete column bases…. For a simplistic blast truck-bomb, of the size and composition reported, to be able to reach out on the order of 60 feet and collapse a reinforced column base the size of column A-7 is beyond credulity.

[edit on 6/24/05 by EastCoastKid]

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