Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Quick question there. On the 1st law, Energy cannot be created nor destroyed to put it simply I am not a scientist nor a mathemetician.
Then by the 2nd law, the one covering entropy, eventually, this energy and matter as well will be dispersed to the point where, everything will
eventually reach absolute zero thus ending the ability of electrons, photons etc to operate any longer. Thus in the end, the 2nd law of thermodynamics
will eventually negate the first law.
I am simplifying this I know and I also need to add that the universe is a closed system as far as we have been able to determine.
So, you have two laws of thermodynamics which basically negate the validity of each other.
Correct?

No, your are reading into it a bit too much, the laws cannot negate each other or they would no longer be accepted as law.
The dispursed energy does not just disapear, it is dipursed as heat, or light or some other form of kinetic energy, and converted back into potential
energy, and the cycle begins anew. absolute zero has not been observed in labs let alone in nature. The law states that "in all energy exchanges,
if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of the initial state" energy is
allways 'enering' systems, as heat, or food, or light, giving more potential to that system.
I think the question that has to be asked here is, would you belive a book writen by men at a time when they beilved that the world was the center of
everthing, or a science that only belives what it can prove?
Organized religion is a control system, and a good way to make a buck. Only belive what you feel, and never give your money, because god does not need
it.
[edit on 23-6-2005 by Halfofone]