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WAR: Saddam to go on Trial Soon

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posted on May, 31 2005 @ 04:00 PM
Jalal Talabani, the Iraqi president, appears to be laying the ground work for moving Saddam to trial soon. While no date has been explicitly set, it is expected to be within the next few months. Saddam has yet to formally face any charges of war crimes.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former dictator Saddam Hussein could go on trial "within two months," and U.S. troops might begin leaving Iraq in large numbers be the end of 2006, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani told a group of international journalists Tuesday.

Addressing CNN's World Report Conference via satellite feed from northern Iraq, Talabani said Iraq "is now doing its best to prepare the grounds" for a court to consider the war crimes claims against Saddam Hussein.

When asked, Talabani did not say if the start of the trial process would include the other men jailed as war crimes suspects. Iraqi officials have said that Saddam would not be the first former government official to go on trial.

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I'm surprised this hasn't happened much sooner, but it's good to see things moving along. I think even with a lack of any evidence for weapons of mass destruction, there are enough claims of inhumane treatment to get a solid conviction against him. However, it will be interesting to see the political aftermath of the trial, if any of his follwers decide to try anything "funny."

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posted on May, 31 2005 @ 04:23 PM
...which begs the questions...

1. How soon is soon?

2. On what grounds specifically has Saddam Hussein (or the body double of the day) been imprisoned? What are the charges to date?

3. Does that make Saddam Hussein a political prisoner, or a prisoner of war?

All the same questions will surface for those amongst the Bush administration who are incarcerated.

posted on May, 31 2005 @ 04:35 PM
That's something I've wondered for quite a while. What exactly has Hussein been charged with, if anything? I'm sure there's some type of official crime listed that he's being held accountable for, whether truthfully or not (and I'm not trying to debate one side or the other on this...) Anyone know, or know where I could find it?

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 05:38 AM
You dont need to charge people to hold them indefinately any more. Hows that for a thriving democracy Britain and America have. Why should Saddam Hussein enjoy more rights than the avergage joe does?

I wonder if Saddam will pull a Galloway and use his media circus trial to tirade about Bush and his cronies.

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 06:05 AM
Wonder what is going through is mind every thing but remorse for the innocent

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 07:11 AM

Saddam has yet to formally face any charges of war crimes

It seems like they haven't decided what to charge him with and that's not surprising since there's not much evidence he comitted any crimes. Even if he had WMDs, that would be a breach of UN resolutions not a 'war crime'.

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 08:31 AM
Yeah, I know he was unfairly charged. A victim of circumstance.

There are those who have different ideas, however:

Up until its fall in April 2003, Saddam Hussein's regime continually violated the human rights of the Iraqi people. The regime's contempt for its own citizens, its neighbours and the international community, increasingly isolated Iraqi society. Saddam Hussein, members of his family and other Iraqi officials committed genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and torture.


posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 08:48 AM
Slated to appear as a character witness is Michael Jackson.

He will testify that in lieu of "Jesus Juice" Saddam preferred "Allah-Ade"

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 09:41 AM


Over the last six years, INDICT has collected evidence of serious crimes committed by senior members of the Iraqi regime, from witnesses in fifteen different countries.

"...we communications between the political and military leadership...SADDAM HUSSEIN briefed the assembled commanders that there would be a chemical attack on Halabja and that soldiers should wear protective clothing...I heard a telephone conversation between SADDAM HUSSEIN and ALI HASSAN AL MAJID. SADDAM ordered him to form a working group...After the meeting ALI HASSAN AL-MAJID returned to the area HQ...Aerial pictures of Halabja after the attack were shown to SADDAM HUSSEIN and other members of the Revolutionary Command Council."

"One of the President's bodyguards brought 30 prisoners out. They were Kurds. The President himself shot them one after another with a Browning pistol. Another 30 prisoners were brought and the process was repeated. SADDAM HUSSEIN was laughing and obviously enjoying himself. There was blood everywhere - it was like an abattoir... Those who were still alive were eventually finished off by the security officers."

According to that website, it's taken six years to compile evidence of these two allegations against Saddam. The first one only seems to indicate he knew it was going to occur and there is evidence to suggest that it was the Iranians who did the gassing.

Halabja poison gas attack

The Halabja poison gas attack was an incident on 15 March-19 March 1988 during a major battle in the Iran-Iraq war when chemical weapons were used, allegedly by Iraqi government forces, to kill a number of people in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja (population 80,000). Estimates of casualties range from several hundred to 5,000 people. Halabja is located about 150 miles northeast of Baghdad and 8-10 miles from the Iranian border.

Most accounts of the incident regard Iraq as the party responsible for the gas attack, which occurred during the Iran-Iraq War. For example, the TerrorismCentral ( web site states, "The poison gas attack on the Iraqi town of Halabja was the largest-scale chemical weapons (CW) attack against a civilian population in modern times. ...The CW attack began early in the evening of March 16th, when a group of eight aircraft began dropping chemical bombs, and the chemical bombardment continued all night. ... The Halabja attack involved multiple chemical agents, including mustard gas, and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX." Some sources have also pointed to the blood agent Hydrogen Cyanide.

Some debate continues, however, over the question of whether Iraq was really the responsible party, stemming from the fact that the United States supplied chemical weapons which may have been responsible for Halabja to Iraq. The matter is further complicated by the fact that the U.S. State Department in the immediate aftermath of the incident "instructed its diplomats to say that Iran was partly to blame."

A preliminary Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) study at the time concluded, apparently by determining the chemicals used by looking at images of the victims, that it was in fact Iran that was responsible for the attack, an assessment which was used subsequently by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) for much of the early 1990's.

The second allegation is an eye witness account. It doesn't say whether there's any evidence to support it.

There's no doubt he wasn't a nice guy, but the fact that they haven't made a formal charge against him strongly suggests that there isn't anything concrete they can charge him with.

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 04:32 PM
Here is a list of the broad charges against him:

The seven broad charges against Saddam are

Killing of religious figures in 1974;

Gassing of Kurds in Halabja in 1988;

Killing the Kurdish Barzani clan in 1983;

Killing members of political parties over the last 30 years;

The 1986-1988 "Anfal" campaign of displacing Kurds;

The suppression of the 1991 uprisings by Kurds and Shiites;

The 1990 invasion of Kuwait

Specific charges will be filed later, Iraqi officials said. Those charges were expected to include war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. A formal indictment with specific charges is expected later, said Salem Chalabi, director of the Iraqi Special Tribunal. The trial is not expected until 2005.


posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 06:03 PM
You can see the videos of the people lying in the streets dead from gas,people being tortured,people being executed, I think those videos should be enough....

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 06:14 PM
Is this before or after the fall of Saddam?

Depleted Uranium will kill more Iraqi people than the gassing in Helabjah. Proven cases of tortue have surfaced in Abu Ghraib. Shooting of unarmed civilians is common place by American soldiers.

Saddam is a bastard but if you prosecute him for these crimes you should also point the finger at President Bush.

posted on Jun, 1 2005 @ 08:47 PM
Subz it was before it....why should I blame Bush for war crimes? You must be another Bush-basher....


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