It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
A picture is worth a thousand words. I just got back from a little sight seeing excursion and what do you think I saw?
Did you even do any research, ask any questions, or did you just take a picture and make some bad assumptions?!? All THAT means is that a lodge masons meets there. They use the building, much like other organizations do (such as AA, traffic schools and even rock bands)!
I suggest you try getting some REAL answers to your silly assumptions, instead of twisting everything to suit your pathetic agenda.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
First, note the hexagram to the far left of the picture. Remember, the hexagram is the most evil of all Black Magick symbols. Witches have used it for years to cast curses on people; many people in the past few thousand years have died by having a hex placed on them.
Originally posted by The Axeman
Holy wasted time, Batman!!
Don't you have anything better to do than regurgitate this crap? Seriously... It's played out dude... You will win no "converts" here.
[edit on 6/1/05 by The Axeman]
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by eudaimonia
First, note the hexagram to the far left of the picture. Remember, the hexagram is the most evil of all Black Magick symbols. Witches have used it for years to cast curses on people; many people in the past few thousand years have died by having a hex placed on them.
I know you don't care but for anyone interested.
Hex as in getting a hex put on someone has nothing to do with the hexagram. it comes from the German word hexen "to practice sorcery." That became the Pennsylvania Dutch word hexe where the word hex was derived. First recorded usage of the word was in an 1830 work called Annals of Philadelphia.
Ain't the internet great? You can even find factual stuff on it!!
Originally posted by eudaimonia
I won't win the "converts", obviously, and it's not my intention to do so.
But what I am doing is saving those who are contemplating joining Masonry, and that's good enough for me.
Played out? Truth is played out? Hmm, well that's a first.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Sorcery, Hexes, they're all intertwined in the workings of Witchcraft.
Are you implying that Sorcery is a 100% POSITIVE practice?
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by eudaimonia
I won't win the "converts", obviously, and it's not my intention to do so.
But what I am doing is saving those who are contemplating joining Masonry, and that's good enough for me.
Played out? Truth is played out? Hmm, well that's a first.
The truth?
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.
Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Proverbs 14:25 A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.
Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.
Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Sorcery, Hexes, they're all intertwined in the workings of Witchcraft.
Are you implying that Sorcery is a 100% POSITIVE practice?
Magick is like electricity.. it's all in how it's used.
[edit on 6/1/2005 by Cug]
Originally posted by Cug
Magick is like electricity.. it's all in how it's used.
Originally posted by akilles
Actually, Cug did say ONE truthful thing in his post. Magick IS like electricity, because it is the same phenomenon in a different setting, a different medium for the same energy.
Magick is human electricity. And yes, it can be like a battery, both negative and positive. That is why it is kept hidden from people, better they consider it all a lie, than to realize the power of good magick, and the extent of black magick used against people.
That is why people are so afraid of words such as vampiric, sex magick, occult, and ritual.
Now I find this very interesting.
I don't mean to go far off topic,,, but i once knew a mature woman who liked to play the "Magic" card game with groups of people...later she wanted to antroduce me to a particular "group" of people... but she didn't want to tell me who they were..
To cut to the chase... at one point she got very angry at me.
for some reason It seemed like i felt a "force'... and I felt aneed to check my automobile. 'When I got to my car.. it would not start... but it emitted some unusual noises.. the lights, but not the radio worked, etc..
I had my car taken to a repairman,.and the next day he stated that he could find absolutely nothing wrong with my vehicle
Plus...I have alway felt that the gnosis what a way to justify evil.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
So, from what I can tell as you point out in your selected verses, that I'm basically a liar?
Funny, I look up factual stuff on the internet too, as you do too, maybe everything on the internet is a lie, right?
Maybe you have no idea what your talking about and everything that you've learned is a complete lie as well.
Or maybe your just here to call me a liar just for the hell of it because you have no way to defend the information presented.
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by eudaimonia
I won't win the "converts", obviously, and it's not my intention to do so.
But what I am doing is saving those who are contemplating joining Masonry, and that's good enough for me.
Played out? Truth is played out? Hmm, well that's a first.
The truth?
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.
Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Proverbs 14:25 A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.
Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.
Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Sorcery, Hexes, they're all intertwined in the workings of Witchcraft.
Are you implying that Sorcery is a 100% POSITIVE practice?
Magick is like electricity.. it's all in how it's used.
[edit on 6/1/2005 by Cug]
The word appears to have entered the religious lexicon when the Hebrew expression in Isaiah 14:12, "HeYLeL BeN-ShaCHaR." (meaning "bright son of the morning/dawn," "bright [and] morning star," "glowing morning star," or "shining one, son of the dawn.")2. was translated to "Phosphorus" (the Greek word for Venus as the morning star) in the Septuagint, and then translated into "Lucifer" in the Vulgate (from the Greek Septuagint). Isaiah 14, taken as a whole, is a parable, or prophecy of denunciation against the Kings of Babylon, specifically Tiglath-pileser III 3 In verse 12, the prophet characterizes the arrogance of Tiglath-pileser III as if the king had thought himself fit to appear in the sky as the morning star, but has fallen to earth, being brought low by the vengeance of the Lord against those who would exalt themselves and persecute the Lord's people (i.e., the Israelites).
Originally posted by eudaimonia
I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
So, from what I can tell as you point out in your selected verses, that I'm basically a liar?
Funny, I look up factual stuff on the internet too, as you do too, maybe everything on the internet is a lie, right?
Maybe you have no idea what your talking about and everything that you've learned is a complete lie as well.
Or maybe your just here to call me a liar just for the hell of it because you have no way to defend the information presented.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by eudaimonia
I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
So, from what I can tell as you point out in your selected verses, that I'm basically a liar?
Funny, I look up factual stuff on the internet too, as you do too, maybe everything on the internet is a lie, right?
Maybe you have no idea what your talking about and everything that you've learned is a complete lie as well.
Or maybe your just here to call me a liar just for the hell of it because you have no way to defend the information presented.
Apparently there's LOTS of things you don't understand, primarily Freemasonry and its related issues you chose to twist and deform to suit your own purposes. Yes, you are being called a liar by more than one person.
We were correct in our assertion that you are merely regurgitating what you have read on other websites, as you claim to "look up factual stuff". You do realize that just because something is presented as factual doesn't mean it actually is? Certain websites lack something we call legitimacy, which is important in order for the information contained therein to be taken seriously, as actual fact.
Just because it seems true, or makes a good story, doesn't mean that it's true! Before you present your findings here on ATS, you need to do additional research to find facts and evidence to support the information you have discovered within a site. This is the critical step that you missed.
I will take this time now to remind you that posting knowingly false information is against the Terms of Service. Are you aware of the fact that what you are posting is false information?