What is the significance of the year 2012?, page 1
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reply posted on 6-8-2003 @ 11:56 PM by planetlegend
Originally posted by Seekerof
First off, greetings and welcome planetlegend.
I hope your time here is an informative one and a fun experience as well. Great peeps here also.

As to your question....from what I understand about 2012....you have virtually answered the question yourself.

Here are some links I had written down:
www.levity.com...

www.greatdreams.com...

I would suggest using the search function for further info and comments on "2012." I think I recall some topic on this that may prove helpful. Then again, many who may know more might drop in on this.

regards
seekerof

thanks for those links they are truly helpful. But I'm confused because someone said that the mayan calander was misinterpreted because it really ends 2020 instead of 2012. I was wondering if you know anything about that. thanks again!


reply posted on 8-8-2003 @ 12:50 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by pixilair
But I'm confused because someone said that the mayan calander was misinterpreted because it really ends 2020 instead of 2012.

Firstus... "western translators" don't exist (I'm being overly picky here) but archaeologists do exist. They are the ones reading the stones.

The Long Count cycle does indeed end in 2012. The original sources and translated stones/artifacts/etc did not report what it is that the Maya expected at the end of the Long Count cycle:
www.wikipedia.org...

If you'll look at the resources out there, you will find the more oddball stuff comes from ordinary citizens who aren't really able to translate the Mayan symbols themselves. It's not coming from archaeologists or anyone even associated with the digs (people who would do this directly.) You get all sorts of mind-fluff, including things like "According to the Maya, beginning March 15, 1999, a powerful gateway may be accessed by those who reach a place of attunement with universal - primordial energy. "

Guess what. There's nothing like that written on any of the temples and in any of the original source material (including the material from the Conquistadores.)

Why do those things exist? Someone has a Bright Idea and hasn't actually studied the culture -- and wants to sell you a book. Poke around the PBS site, and you'll get a better handle on what we really know (and how much outright fakery there is on the nets.) www.pbs.org...


[B]RESEARCH:[/B]
Some good info on the various date systems used by the Mayans and why they needed a complex calendar:
webexhibits.org...

Anthro lecture notes on Mayan Calendar and sacred cycles (note that they only knew the planets through Saturn... and not Uranus, Neptune, Pluto):
www.ku.edu...

School web page, but good links:
www.internet-at-work.com...


reply posted on 9-8-2003 @ 01:25 AM by Toltec
www.levity.com...

This site is a fairly good reference on the subject.

It is important to consider that with respect to the significance of ancient cultures stories which pertain to cycles do seem to permeate all cultures.


reply posted on 11-8-2003 @ 08:50 AM by Byrd
Originally posted by Toltec
www.levity.com...

This site is a fairly good reference on the subject.

It is important to consider that with respect to the significance of ancient cultures stories which pertain to cycles do seem to permeate all cultures.

The problem is that he discusses the data and then leaps ahead to his own conclusions. Notice that he states that "The Maya are not generally credited with knowing about the precession of the equinoxes" (which is VERY true because they lived on the equator.) He next ignores this (there is no evidence that they knew of this) so that he can continue with his theories.

This, I'm afraid, is a common tactic of those with an idea to prove and no real backing for the info.

He then adjusts his figures by whipping back and forth between modern time and Mayan time ("I use the exact center of the Milky Way band that one finds on star charts" -- something that would have been UNKNOWN to early astronomers because they didn't have good telescopes.)

He then explains that he's doing this to explain why the calendar ends and why it's so significant -- and totally ignores the CULTURAL and archaeological reason -- that the calendars were so disjunct (the feast set for that it took that amount of time to get them to line back up again.

That's bad science.

It's bad culture.

It's bad logic.
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