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Chinese indigenious weapons

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posted on May, 29 2005 @ 07:14 AM
Recent chinese weapons manufactures have come out with a whole line of indigenious weapons. and have strayed away from the days of reverse engineering



JH-7 (FBC-1 Flying Leopard) Fighter-Bomber


J-8B Interceptor Fighter Aircraft

Chinese WS-10A turbofan jet engine. aka kunlun (i think)

j-11 fitted with it

[edit on 29-5-2005 by chinawhite]

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 07:23 AM
Ground forces.

Airborne Combat Vehicle

Type 98 Main Battle Tank

QJY-88, 5.8 mm Heavy Machine Gun

Type 95 Assault Rifle (5.8mm)

Type 88, 5.8 mm Sniper Rifle

Type 87, 5.8 mm Assault Rifle

PF-89, 80 mm Light Anti-tank Weapon

HJ-9 Anti-Tank Guided Missile

HJ-8 Anti-Tank Guided Missile

WZ550 (HJ-9) ATGM Launcher Vehicle

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 07:34 AM

Type 051C aegis style ship

Lanzhou Class (Type 052C) Guided Missile Destroyer

Guangzhou Class (Type 052B) Missile Destroyer

Luhai Class (Type 051B) Missile Destroyer

Ma'anshan Class (Type 054) Missile Frigate

Water-Piercing Catamaran FAC

Type 039 (Song Class) Diesel-Electric Submarine

Yuan Class Diesel-Electric Submarine

Type 091 (Han Class) Nuclear Attack Submarine

Type 092 (Xia Class) Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarine

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 08:19 AM
....and the point oif these posts are what exactly ?

chinawhite this is getting really old. It's blatantly obvious why you strated this thread. Well I wonder who is going to take your flame bait.

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 10:53 AM

The J-10 is based on the Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI)’s Lavi fighter. After the Lavi programme was cancelled in 1987, its design was taken over by CAC, and IAI carried on with the development of avionic equipment.

It is powered by Russian Lyulka-Saturn AL-31F turbofan, the same power plant also being used by Chinese air force Sukhoi Su-27s and Su-30s.

Radar :Russian Phazotron Zhuk-10PD, a version of the system in later Su-27s, with 160 km search range and ability to track up to six targets. Israel has offered its Elta EL/M-2035 radar for competition.

Cockpit parts : basic Ukrainian Arsenel HMS copied by China's Luoyang Avionics

Weapons :J-10 could also carry Russian Vympel R-73 (AA-11) short-range and R-77 (AA-12)


The J-10 (copied):

[edit on 29-5-2005 by Stealth Spy]

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:01 AM
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The most developed Russian concept was MiG izdeje 33. MiG did not have money to develop both MFI and LFI at stroke, so they dropped LFI and work continued only on MFI. Concept was later sold to China and it become FC-1/JF-17 fighter.


As a substitute for the Super-7, China is developing the FC-1 (Fighter China 1) lightweight multipurpose fighter based on the design for the MiG-33, which was rejected by the Soviet Air Force.

Chengdu Aircraft Industry Company [CAIC], based in Sichuan Province, is China's second-largest fighter production base, is cooperating with Russia's Mikoyan Aero-Science Production Group [MASPG] in the development of the FC-1. Israel and several European countries are being considered as suppliers for the plane's avionics.

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:04 AM

The CAC is also trying to replace the Russian AL-31F with the indigenously developed WS-10A, which is said to be a Chinese copy of the AL-31FN.

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:07 AM
Are we going to DISCUSS anything on this DISCUSSION BOARD thread or just post a bunch of pictures and links?

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:10 AM

J-8 with larger fire-control radar and various other avionics equipment.
Some parts were taken from the or Sukhoi Su-15 Flagon.

During their temporary coalition in the 1980s, China and the USA reached an agreement of upgrading the J-8B fighter with modern avionics. As part of the "Peace Pearl" Project, in 1986 the George Bush (senior) administration approved to sell 52 sets of US-made APG-66 fire-control radar together with other avionics worth US$200 million in total to China to upgrade her J-8B fleet. Grumman (now Northrop Grumman) was chosen to co-operate with the SAC in this project. However, this project was halted after June 1989 and then completely terminated in 1990.

Following the end of the Cold War, China turned to Russia for helps to upgrade the J-8B fighter. In 1996 SAC revealed its F-8IIM fighter, which is fitted with the Russian Phazotron Zhuk-8II coherent pulse Doppler radar and R-27R1 (AA-10 Alamo-A) semi-active radar homing medium-range AAM, the F-8IIM is the most capable variant of the J-8B series. Its domestic variant is said to be the J-8C (or J-8III).

[edit on 29-5-2005 by Stealth Spy]

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:19 AM
HJ-8 Anti-Tank Guided Missile

Chinese copy of Soviet AT-4 Spigot
which inturn was copied by Pakistan as Baktar Shikan

Gun-Fired Laser-Guided Anti-Tank Guided Missile
Chinese copy of Russian 9K116 Bastion (NATO codename: AT-10 Stabber)

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:24 AM

Type 90 Main Battle Tank
China obtained several T-72 tanks from the Middle East in the late 1970s and used them as a pattern in developing its Type-90 MBT. The original proposal was to develop an MBT based on the hull design of the T-72, and fit it with Western 120 mm smoothbore gun and advanced fire control equipment. This plan was later temporally halted due to the boycotts by the Western countries after 1989. Thus, this tank never entered production.

Its engine is a ukranian 6TD engine and has French SESM ESM 500 automatic transmission

Type 98 Main Battle Tank

The Type 98 is the latest derivative of the Type 90 main battle tank (MBT) family.

In 1995 Russia demonstrated its latest variant of the T-80U tank to the Chinese leaders. This resulted in a major redesign of the third-generation MBT, which later led to the Type 98 MBT.

It may be based on the T-72 chassis(no conclusive evidence).

At least one source indicated to the magazine Russia has supplied some of the technology for the Chinese project in exchange for foreign currency to fund its own tank programs.

Its 125 mm 50-calibre smoothbore gun with autoloader: copy of the Russian 2A46.

Its Engine : 1,200 hp diesel derived from Germany WD396 engine

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:29 AM
Type 56, 7.62 mm Automatic Assault Rifle
Chinese copy of the world-famous Kalashnikov 7.62 mm AK-47 assult rifle
> also exported to the Pakistani Army

Type 79, 7.62 mm Sniper Rifle
Chinese copy of the Soviet Dragunov SVD

Type 81 Assault Rifle (7.62mm)
Chinese copy of the later, improved AK-47

Type 95 Squad Machine Gun (5.8mm)
Chinese French Giat FAMAS and the British SA80 assault rifles, by mixing and matching from both

all from easily available sources.

-----MACHINE GUNS----------

Type 57, 7.62 mm Heavy Machine Gun
Chinese copy of the Soviet SG43

Type 80, 7.62 mm Heavy Machine Gun
Chinese copy of the Soviet PKMC 7.62 mm machine gun

Type 77, 12.7 mm Antiaircraft Machine Gun
Strongly resembles soviet equivalents

Type 56, 4-Barrel, 14.5 mm Antiaircraft Machine Gun
Chinese copy of the Soviet ZPU-4 quadruple anti-aircraft machine gun (AAMG)

Type 58, 2-Barrel, 14.5 mm Antiaircraft Machine Gun
Chinese copy of the Soviet ZPU-2

Type 69, 40mm Rocket Propelled Grenade
Chinese copy of the famous Soviet RPG-7

Type 54, 7.62 mm Pistol
Chinese copy of the Soviet TT

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:35 AM
J-7 Interceptor Fighter Aircraft
copy of the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21F-13

J-7C Interceptor Fighter Aircraft
made by reverse engineering of the Soviet/Rusian Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF

J-7E Interceptor Fighter Aircraft
aircraft is based on the airframe of the J-7/MiG-21 Fishebed, but with improved aerodynamics performance and avionics from the Mig-29(purchased from russia).

J-8 Interceptor Fighter Aircraft
borrowed lots of designs from the Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-152A experimental aeroplane about which the Chinese had received data in the late 1950s.

H-5 Bomber Aircraft

The Hong-5 (H-5) is a licensed copy of the Ilyushin IL-28 (NATO codename: Beagle) twin-engine daylight bomber aircraft produced by Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation (HAMC). Several hundred H-5 bomber variants and HJ-5 bomber-trainer variants were delivered to the PLA Air Force and PLA Naval Air Corps in the 1960s/70s

H-6 Bomber Aircraft

The Hong-6 (H-6) is the twin-engine intermediate-range jet bomber developed and built by Xi'an Aircraft Industry Co. (XAC). The aircraft is a Chinese copy of the Soviet Tu-16 (NATO codename: Badger) with some modifications.

H-6D Anti-Ship Missile Bomber Aircraft

The Xi'an H-6D is derived from the H-6 (Chinese copy of the Russian Tu-16 Badger) bomber for the maritime reconnaissance and anti-ship roles, the latter with the aid of a target acquisition/illumination radar with its antenna in a larger undernose radome, and with single hardpoints (under the wings outboard of the main landing gear units) for two YJ-6 (C-601) anti-ship missiles with a range of 120 km and a speed of Mach 0.8.

Q-5 Attack Aircraft

The Qiang-5 (Q-5, NATO codename: Fantan) attack aircraft is a twin-engine, single-seat attack aircraft for close air support and interdiction of enemy targets roles. Developed by Hongdu (Nanchang) Aircraft Industry Group, the aircraft was based on, and derived from, the Shenyang J-6 (Chinese copy of the MiG-19 Farmer)

Chuji Jiaolian-6 or Chujiao-6 (CJ-6)- Basic trainer
copy of Soviet Yak-18A

JJ-5 Basic Jet Training Aircraft
copy of modified MiG-17bis fighter

JJ-7 Fighter-Trainer Aircraft
copy of Soviet MiG- 21U 'Mongol-A'

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:36 AM

Originally posted by QuietSoul
Are we going to DISCUSS anything on this DISCUSSION BOARD thread or just post a bunch of pictures and links?

Guess not.

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:38 AM
Type 59 Main Battle Tank
Chinese copy of the Soviet T-54A
Its 100 mm rifled gun : Chinese copy of the D-10T2S
Upgraded Type 59-II MBT's 105 mm gun : copy of the Austrian L7

Type 69/79 Main Battle Tank
Inprovement of the Type-59 MBT with a Chinese copy of the British Marconi fire control system and an IR searchlight which was a Chinese copy of the soviet Luna system

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 11:45 AM

Originally posted by QuietSoul

Originally posted by QuietSoul
Are we going to DISCUSS anything on this DISCUSSION BOARD thread or just post a bunch of pictures and links?

Guess not.

Air to air missiles

alright i'll stop here...i am tired of this...otherwise i would have gone on and on.

Chinawhite has needlessly brought up topics which were prohibited here with the intent of starting a flame war and i had no choice but to have a go, unable to take more of this.

This thread must be shut down and moved out of here, imo.

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 12:20 PM
QuietSoul, chinawhite claimed all these are indigenious systems, without any reverse engineering (also known as stolen and copied material).

StealthSpy has correctly and easily proven that almost NOTHING Chna does is indigenious...much like the Soviet Union before them.

chinawhite is a boob to try and fool anyone here with his propaganda.

[edit on 29-5-2005 by Army]

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 12:45 PM
OK, It's agreed China and India can't produce JACK *** unless they've copied it. No more posts of this kind needed, I have passed my judgement.

However army you are wrong about one area, China is more than capable of building their own indigenous strategic missile systems.

*Stop attempting to bypass the censors with creative typing.*

[edit on 29-5-2005 by dbates]

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 12:54 PM
Also, I'm no expert on this stuff, but even if the Type 95 is a mix and match, it does fire a different round.

And I gotta say, I love the look of that rifle. Maybe it's just my penchant for bullpups.

Just my two cents.

posted on May, 29 2005 @ 06:14 PM
As for fully indegenous technology design it is not quite there yet, but it is moving in that direction nevertheless.
It will move full copies (J-5, J-6, J-7) --> further development of existing aircraft (J-8, J-10) --> fully indegeous designs sometime in the near future.

The ships are the closest to fully indegenous designs although some equipment here and there may be imported. Nevertheless they're closest to a full fledged indegenous design. I don't see anyone figuring out where the Type 051 destroyers and the catamaran patrol boats were "copied" from. Well? Anyone?

[edit on 29-5-2005 by Taishyou]

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