Originally posted by Off_The_Street

There are no links on the internet. But if you have cable TV, watch the history channel. You can even order the special they did about it. The
title of the series is: "Africa : A History Denied"

Now let me get this straight. There's this huge wall in pieces all across southern Africa and there's
no stories about it in any magazines,
no articles in any scholarly journals of anthropology or ethnology,
no photographs of it,
no no mention of it in any high school
or university textbook,
no tours available for people to go see it,
nothing at all except a video you want us to buy.

Correct. And you don't have to buy the video, just watch the
History Channel on cable TV. They re-play their episodes every few
months. Some libraries, and colleges even have this video and you can watch it for freeee! Or you can buy it. At the end of every single episode of
the History Channel, they show information for ordering any episode.
The title of the episode I'm talking about is called:
Africa : A History Denied
It also talks about other things in Africa. Including.... how far Europe has gone to make sure esoteric sites, history, culture, info, empires,
societies, in Africa will never be known to the rest of the world.
Unless you fear the History Channel ? I don't get it... its a major, mainstream media outlet, and you fear to check it out? I mean, for 25 bucks,
you can buy a video from a major news outlet that covers one of the most covered up, unknown, historical sites on the planet. Its not like Im saying
buy a video from some mom n pop set up. You might have to call up the History Channel, cuz I cant find the video listed in their site library.
"
Africa : A History Denied" aired a few years ago. So I don't know if their online site only has recently aired shows, or all shows
from when the History Channel first aired.
BTW, here's more proof that to the majority of people worldwide, the wall across Britain isnt commonly known by the name you posted:
Great Wall of
England
Anyone else intrested in more info about the wall across China:
Great Wall of China
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Right.

Yes Right! Did you know there's many, many, things you, (and even ... me!) and the masses never heard of, but exist and have happened? How about the
2nd American Civil War? Aka
Civil War II
American Civil War
II
Ummm... It does appear and is mentioned elsewhere. Just not on the internet LOL! Guess what? Before 1994 almost nothing was on the internet. You had
to physically go to your local library, or actually order books, magazines, and videotapes.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street

The Harlem Renn continued on throughout the Jazz era, which spawned the Rock & Roll era. 1920's on throughout the 1950's.

Here are my citations for the Harlem Renaissance (not "Harlem Renn").
www.nku.edu...
www.fatherryan.org...
www.csustan.edu...
Where are
yours?

Alright Ill enter the ring with ya on this little tangent.....
Your 3 links prove me right. The following quotes are from all 3 of them:
"From 1920 until about 1930"
"In the early 1900s, particularly in the 1920s"
"Harlem Renaissance (HR) is the name given to the period from the end of World War I and through the middle of the 1930s Depression, during which a
group of talented African-American writers produced a sizable body of literature..."
Note how they guestimate when the HR started, and lasted. Also at the last link you gave, it says this:
"Schomburg Exhibition, Harlem 1900-1940"
www.si.umich.edu...
Personalities of the Harlem Renaissance
1940 Publications of Hughes The Big Sea; McKay, Harlem: Negro Metropolis.
The HR was still going full steam in the 1940's. Some sites say it happend only in the 1920's. Some say only in the 1930's. Some say up to the
1940's. Who's right? Who's wrong? Some say it
started in the 1920's. Some say in the 1900's.
I can give my
reasons for saying it lasted into the 1950's.... based on a combo of my opinion, and what actually happened in history:
- The Harlem Renn (Hey even they use HR as their choice of abbreviation) at its earliest started in the 1900's and at its latest ended in the
1950's. Cuz before the 1900's there weren't any large numbers of Black Americans in Harlem, NYC. Cuz after the 1950's EVERYTHING the Black
Americans created during the Harlem Renn got taken over by white Americans - Jazz, and Rock & Roll.
- The term "Rock & Roll" comes from Black American slang English. It litterally was a synonym for the F word. For F***ing. "Sex" is a more
civilized way of saying what its original meaning was. It was invented in the south USA. "Rock n rollin in the hay" was how it was most popularly
used. "Lets go rock n roll" a guy would say to a gal. And was taken to the north USA when black Americans from the south migrated in LARGE numbers
to the north. This also started the Harlem Renn. The term was in use decades before it was used to name a form of music. Jazz got created and coined
around the 1920's. The era of the flappers heheh. And Billie Holiday, Miles D, Cab G, Duke E, and more.
- Rock n Roll is the direct result of the Harlem Renn. The Harlem Renn introduced white Americans to popular black American culture, ideas, books,
poetry, and... music, music, music, and... music. And that's where ya get the official Rock n Roll, Elvis, and.. Buddy Holly. WHY do ya think ALL
black American bands HAD to play at the Apollo? Cuz the Apollo was the centerpiece of the Harlem Renn. Why did Buddy Holly have to play at the Apollo?
Buddy Holly, a white guy, went to an all black area, to play. Cuz it was the center of early Rock n Roll. WHY was it the center of early Rock n Roll?
Cuz it was where the Harlem Renn was, and was still going strong from 1900 - 1950's.
IF the Harlem Renn wasnt around in the 1950's like you say, then why would Buddy Holly want to risk his life by playing at the Apollo? He was
already a big name. On the road to making it. What was sooo important about the Apollo during the 1950's that he HAD to play it?
Why do ya think heavy metal/hard rock started out as ..... jazz? Cuz Jazz was the centerpiece of the Harlem Renn. And heavy metal/hard rock started
in the 1960's LOL! More proof the Harlem Renn definatly lasted into the 1950's.
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Originally posted by Bulldog 52
Ask any American if they feel they are still ruled by the British and guess what you will get?There is no way the Queen has rights in America , we
lost , why are you trying to make out that we have some influence , when we dont.

Heh, ask any American who the first 5 presidents of the USA were and they can't answer. Ask em what year the ciivl war started and they cant answer.
Ask em to name 5 guys who signed the Declaration of Independance and they cant answer. Do you really think any American would know for sure if the
people who rule Britain also rule America?
There's even an American saying "I'm American, I'm dumb!".
What it means is - "I'm American, and
because I'm American, all others have to cater to me. Even if I know nothing, I'll still be catered
to!"
[edit on 5-6-2005 by OpenSecret2012]