reply to post by Cug
I have been sober for more than 20 years. Alanon and AA saved my life along with very good therapy.
I also work in human behavior, addictions/ grief etc.
"Denial will not protect you from reality."
It is not how much you drink, or how often. But it is the: WHY do you drink, that is the question. It is how it affects your life! This is the
criteria for establishing alcoholism.
It is not stopping that is hard...it is staying stopped.
Alcohol is just a food product. Those who make a larger issue of it need to look at it! Are you allergic to something? Do you find it hard to stay
away from strawberries? Cantaloupe? Pepsi? Catchin' my drift?
Alcoholism is the only disease where the individual feels HE or SHE is qualified to diagnose themselves. No other disease creates this kind of
arrogance. You will not operate on yourself, yet, you become the authority on whether you have this disease or not?
With all of this said, I have issues with AA, also.
It has changed in the years I belonged to it.
People turn their will and life over to another, a sponsor who may have no knowledge of the disease, and gives bad advice, giving power over to
someone who is sick, often - themselves. AA originally never even mentioned a sponsor!! It is not in the first 164 pages of the Big Book!!
It has become more of a religion and a cult rather than a safe place to go. With it's judgmental cliques, rituals, and chanting. It has little to do
with keeping it simple!
Helplessness and hopelessness are promoted to gain control. Whereas, this is A LIE!
Sickness is taught! "You will be sick for the rest of your life!" ...A LIE! It says 23 times in the Big Book uses the phrase: "recovered" in other
words; get over it! Or YOU have gotten over it! Treatment centers promoted it because they wanted the money. So they have made it incurable.
Just like religion: all you need is the Bible...all you need is AA! WRONG!!! Outside help is very beneficial and can go a long way toward wellness.
What sickens me the most: true sobriety is no longer promoted. It keeps secrets!! A person may take a chip for 10 years sobriety while all the time is
smoking weed or abusing pills! BUT..."We keep to singleness of purpose and will not discuss other drugs in AA." Hence, the LIE and secrets get
promoted. JUST DON'T DRINK, but we will turn the other cheek when it comes to other drugs.
It is fast becoming a farce! I no longer can promote AA. AA used to have over 80% success rate. Now, nothing! It has become diluted and false.
This is not to say that the 12 steps are not good! They are! But a person can work them with a therapist or friend and can attend other groups.
I have over 20 yrs and my husband - 35! We have lived in many states in sobriety and been a huge part of it (my husband at the very top), but can no
"Only God could, and would, if he were sought."
[edit on 5-2-2009 by MatrixProphet]