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Originally posted by SimonColynAdrian
YAY! This is my first post... And thanks to Cug for fighting the Freemason powers that be...
Originally posted by SimonColynAdrian
..... And while a person will always be an alcoholic,......
Originally posted by BlissfullIgnorance
Notice how nobody else responds.... because this is stupid. This is a bunch of crazy conspiracy nuts tryong to make something out of nothing. No, Im sorry, not a bunch, just one lunatic. Seriously, alcoholics anonymous? come on whats next, the mickey mouse club? Get realistic
Originally posted by akilles
Its more of a cult than a society.
Like was noted, you are not free to join, or even leave in some cases.
My biggest problem with AA has always been that you can never drink alcohol responsibly. Ever. You damn drunk!
No wine, no pudding with alcohol, not one of those little candies, its all a slippery slope to drinking yourself into oblivion I tell you!
Originally posted by akilles
My biggest problem with AA has always been that you can never drink alcohol responsibly. Ever. You damn drunk!
I think AA probably forces people back to drinking in some cases,
Originally posted by Cug
Well besides the nullification of ones Will.
It is also bordering on a state supported religious cult
I'm trying to find out what people here think a secret society is
After I got out I said to myself I'd better cut that crap out, and I did.
The definition of an alcoholic was frankly created by the AA to serve their own purposes.
sebatwork
A large percentage of these people are college students who simply did something stupid, hardly people who feel their lives has become unmanageable due to alcohol.
djohnsto77
Anyone can lookup and go to meetings held practically every night in a large city.
whaaa
My names Allan
benign
But I don't see why we are even mentioning it on this forum, I don't see any way that this could be a malicious society
egg mundane
I think that is important for AA members to hang out together outside the meetings
svcadet32
some people who post on here really need to get off the computer and go outside.
Originally posted by BlissfullIgnorance
Notice how nobody else responds.... because this is stupid. This is a bunch of crazy conspiracy nuts tryong to make something out of nothing. No, Im sorry, not a bunch, just one lunatic. Seriously, alcoholics anonymous? come on whats next, the mickey mouse club? Get realistic
Originally posted by Nygdan
I'd think tho that, to a degree, there has to be something like that, since the Alcoholic's Will and Urge is to drink, destructively. And, also, I am not familiar with how the group operates, but wouldn't they have to try to re-enforce one's Willpower, to stop them from drinking?? Perhaps thats where the 'anti-rational' bit comes in. Rational thinking probably doesn't work with alcoholics. If it did, they wouldn't be alcoholics in the first place, because its a dangerous and irrational thing to be.
This is an interesting point, I had thought that AA was a 'secular' thing, but apparently its got a strong dose of religion.
But is it a blandish religion?? Can, for example, Hindu Alcholics work with it? Then again, if one was an atheist, or an agnostic or the like, then would one not have to serve time in AA??
Originally posted by Cug
Well AA forces you to have a God
Originally posted by Misfit
If an Athiest wants to quit, he is advised that the belief in "something" greater than he is exists. even if a damn OAK TREE. I chose the Walnut tree in the backyard.
Originally posted by Cug
How would a walnut tree help with steps 6-7?
6. Were entirely ready to have the Walnut tree remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked the Walnut tree to remove our shortcomings.
Originally posted by Misfit
Have you actually attended meetings? Or are you just going by what you've read?
Originally posted by Misfit
It's not about the "who", it's about the "what". The "what" is that we can not quit on our own, that we must surrender our addictions to somehting that is stronger than us. For many it is God, as they already believe in one, for me, it was as I stated. The simple act of asking for help, re-affirms to a mans thoughts that he can not do it alone. The act of asking for help instills strength in us.
Originally posted by Misfit
Have you actually attended meetings? Or are you just going by what you've read?
Originally posted by Misfit
(to that rehab counsellor that posted - you did not see this theory? That's it, you're FIRED !! lolol)
Originally posted by Misfit
Damn, I need a drink & a hit now. That counsellor still here? lol
Originally posted by intrepid
BTW, if you have NO idea about addiction I'd advise you to be a little more tollerant of those that have had to deal with a hardship greater than anything you've ever had to deal with mate.
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by intrepid
BTW, if you have NO idea about addiction I'd advise you to be a little more tollerant of those that have had to deal with a hardship greater than anything you've ever had to deal with mate.
I did deal with it. twice alcohol and nicotine.
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by Misfit
If an Athiest wants to quit, he is advised that the belief in "something" greater than he is exists. even if a damn OAK TREE. I chose the Walnut tree in the backyard.
Another sign of a secret society.. members get angry when it's criticized jk
How would a walnut tree help with steps 6-7?
6. Were entirely ready to have the Walnut tree remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked the Walnut tree to remove our shortcomings.