Originally posted by junglejake
I'll tell you what; why don't you decide what is acceptable and what isnt for the rest of us. That may be a cross for you to bare that you aren't
I already have, and it is based on the Constitution of the United States of America. Everything. Everything is acceptable, so far as the law is
concerned, for people to take in. Does that mean I'll like it? Heck no! You come to me and tell me the holocaust never happened, and I'll try to
patiently explain to you that you're an idiot. Some movie comes out supporting that claim, I'll tell my local theater that, if they play that film,
they'll no longer have any business from me. They, in their private enterprisistic (is that a word?) legal rights, can choose to show the film or
not show the film, either based on personal (owner) viewpoints or based on increasing capitol. I would have the right, if they chose to show the film,
never to go there again. That's censorship imposed by citizens, and the law never has to get involved.
So legally, all viewpoints should be permitted. I should be able to stand on a corner and denounce African Americans, if I choose. You should be able
to stand on a corner and decry the idiocy of Christianity, if you so choose.
And my kids, when asked to pick a song to sing in public, should be allowed to pick a song that talks about God.
I would agree in this instance. Why can't the free market decide? If people decide they don't want to listen or are offended by this song then her
peers can boo her out of the building. Like every other musical act ever performed let the audience decide if they want to continue listening or
In regards to some of the other issues brought up in this thread, I would agree and have puched for a general Theology class in my school and others.
But the school should not support the preaching of one belief over another. Kids wearing religious clothing/jewelry? Fine. Maybe it will start a new
fad in schools. As long as they do not force their religion on others and respect the free will of those around them to believe what they want i have
no problem with religious expression.
The problem that I have experienced is that many christians have become hypocritical in there beliefs, teachings, and actions. Jesus and the Bible
preach tolerance, forgiveness, redemption, and free will of man. Yet the same people fighting for the bible are the ones constantly fighting over
having their beliefs pushed to the forefront of society, and condemning all others. THEY are the ones that were pushing for Tookie's execution. THEY
are the ones trying to get abortion banned in all forms(and killing people and bombing clinics in some cases). THEY want to have ID taught in science
classes when the only evidence they can present is evidence AGAINST EVOLUTION, not for ID. THEY openly pray for the deaths of Supreme Court Justices
who don't support their agenda. In general, they attempt to force their beliefs on others in a way that other religions don't.
And just to clarify I am not pagan or atheist. I was raised Catholic. I attended church and Religious Education classes. But(it may be different in
other churches) the more I heard the more I came to recognize the hypocracy of their teachings. I am now a Unitarian Universalist because I still
believe in the concept and right to individual free will. In my experiences though most Christians have forgotten what was one of Jesus' most
And before I get ripped for this, I am not completely against ID. I do think that some of the questions and criticisms of the Evolution theory can be
taught in science classes. I would support ID being taught as a possibility
in a Theology class. But I have studied ID, evolution, and
panspermian theory for about a year now learning about them, and I can not find a basis for which ID can legitamately pass through the Scientific
Method, which is essential in my opinion to it being taught in a science class. If I can be proven wrong on that statement I welcome it. But
evidence against evolution is not the same as evidence for ID. I think it's important for scientists to recognize the holes in the evolution theory,
but christians need to recognize that evolution right now is the most scientifically viable theory we have.
And I was just in high school not to long ago and no, the Bill of Rights do not apply in schools. You can't say whatever you want(1st Amendment),
carry weapons (2nd). You can have your lockers/cars/computer files searched at any time(4th). You can be forced to incriminate yourself(5th), no
defense counsel(6th) or trial by jury(7th). I would say permanent banishment for showing up drunk to school is excessive and cruel(8th). Schools
seem to have the right to pick and choose which parts and to what extent they adhere to the bill of right. Not right in my opinion but it's fact.