NEWS: Doctors call for long pointed kitchen knives to be banned in UK.

Originally posted by subz


They are not banning all knives, just long sharp ones that account for more than half of stabings.

They said short knives would result in mostly superficial injuries while the longer knives have a greater chance of hitting the internal organs.

If you people would read the justification these professional life preservers are giving you you might think twice about it.

Do you really need those massive knives?

I do suppose it stands to reason that the long knives account for more than half the stabbings. I know if given the option between stabbing someone with a long knife or a short one...I choose the big one! I still think that if you take away the knives people will just move on to using something else. I certainly agree with you about the doctors getting too much of a hard time here.

Would the UK like to surrender now, or later? if you keep going the way you are your going to be overrun and there will be nothing you can do about it.

Originally posted by SportyMB
OK, Maybe in the UK...but not in the states.

So your saying you need a knife half the size of your arm and as thick as your wrist for "cutlery"?

So you aprrove of shooting which leads me to believe you approve of gun ownership...but you don't approve of owning big kitchen kinives? Is that right?

I dont approve of shooting for general population, I shoot with the cadets.
I dont approve of selling half machete's to the public with no regard to who they are...

Hey can someone get this kid a gig??? Cuz he's a comedian

Heh, this kid is acting more mature than you are....

quote]Originally posted by sigung86
And DevilWasp, you are beginning to sound like a comical parody of the Englishmen that I knew, partied, lived and trained with when I lived in you wonderful country. To paraphrase a comical line from "Patton", by your own well respected Monty, "We shall jump out and bit them like a rabid rabbit".

Right........ok then...I have no idea what was trying to be sent across there but ok then...

I really do not mean to be insulting, but what I read from you and folks, who apparently, think like you, are not the same lines of people who stood shoulder to shoulder and drove back the Vikings, who unified the British Isles, who drove back the Zulu nation, who stood shoulder to shoulder in the blood soaked trenches of WWI and kept back the Hun, who stood practically alone in one of the most valiant stances I have ever seen to hold back the dark, evil shadow of Hitler and the Nazis, who sent an invasion force to a contested island to keep the invaders from taking over and terrorizing British citizens... And on and on....

Frankly I dont care what I sound like, there is a place and a time for these types of weapons. There are people who use these not to kill but to do some wonderful things,if there was a law to stop these to be sold to people who DONT do these things I would back it over banning knifes.

We are not the same because its diffrent times, but we stil have one thing in common, we are damm stuborn and will defend our country , our people and our freedoms.

No.... Let them have my large firearms, my knives, my cricket bat, my .... whatever makes them comfortable enough to own my soul and run my life to their own ends...

Yeah and that would make me, my family, my girlfriend, my friends and my comunity a safer place...

Ahhhh..... It is, after all, your country. If you want to live there and adventure on without the basic responsibility of making your own decisions and taking responsibility for what happens and what you really choose. Go ahead. I'll stay here, a freeman, able to choose what implement I want to carve my balogna sandwich in half with.

Ok thats just dealing in extreme's , are you related to GWB or anakin skywalker?

Have a most pleasant if undestracted, and unresponsible life.

No my life is quite full of responsibilty thank you very much.

Originally posted by BlackJackal
This is ludicrous! First the UK bans all guns, even for police, to curb murder but murder still happens. So now they are going to ban knives to stop murder.

What?
You know nothing of my country then..
I have fired many firearms, we have the home of shooting right here in britian, we have many guns clubs and we have armed police men!

I have a prediction for you:

Murder will still happen when you ban knives

Yeah but at a much lower level and we are not banning all knifes....stop liveing in absolutes.

[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]

Originally posted by Whiskey Jack
So, assuming you're not joking or trolling, would you be in favor of a law that banned fabric shears that are over 3" in length? I mean, it's not like you're going to get an entire piece of fabric between the jaws of a scissors, so something 3" or so should do it for any reasonable person?

My arm is now 6" s long?
Also if it stopped murders , I would back it.

When you think about it, a good pair of fabric shears are just a couple very sharp knives pinned together.

Anything is a weapon if you swing it right..

Originally posted by centurion1211
DevilWasp (IMO should have named himself something more like Butterfly or LadyBug) and subz, thank you for truly exposing the depths of your naive foolishness for all to see.

Your opinion is worth squat , to me at least.

We can all figure out the logical progression here; guns, swords, knives, scissors, cars, arrows, knitting and sewing needles (who really needs one THAT big?), medicines, bricks, rocks, tree branches (and other large pieces of wood), ...., to finally anything that has ever been used or could be used to purposefully or accidentally hurt or kill someone. That earlier post about being wrapped in bubble-wrap is close to all we'd have left, but doesn't go far enough to satisfy the mad thinking of people like devilwasp. No, only a Matrix-like existence would be "safe" enough for them!

Oh so we're down to personal insults are we now?
Ah I see not getting out of character.
BTW we havent banned all guns, havnt banned all swords, knives or scissors and we are just talking about banning one type of knife.

People! Please stop feeding this troll by answering his absurd posts.

[edit on 5/27/2005 by centurion1211]

Troll?
Ok now thats a cheap personal insult.
My posts arent absurd, yours on the other hand.....

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Would the UK like to surrender now, or later? if you keep going the way you are your going to be overrun and there will be nothing you can do about it.

Really?
So that whole task force we sent to iraq wouldnt just be part of our defence force....
No we all just depend on 4 soldiers from each country in the UK to defend us.....

[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]

Wow I should of known how this thread would of gone considering how rabid the gun control threads are.

Personal insults are the refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.

The argument that banning guns didnt help our murder rate is wrong on so many levels. First of all, guns are not banned here. We just think that every man and his dog do not need fire arms and as a result we have almost the lowest fire arms death rate in the developed world. Care to think who has the highest? By about a factor of 10?

But I digress, this is about knives here. The Doctors argument, which im sure 90% of posters here didnt even bother themselves to read, states that most stabbings are heat of the moment crimes. Therefore an attempt to remove the impulse weapon would reduce murders with no inconvenience to people because short knives are more than adequate for cooking.

The shorter blades are less likely to hit major internal organs as opposed to longer knives.

The argument is a rational and logical one, which is more than can be said about some of the posts in this thread. If you dont have something constructive to add to the conversation, do us all a favour and refrain from posting insults.

[edit on 27/5/05 by subz]

Does this mean no british 'shower scenes' in their horror cinema?

Absolutely ludicrous, this proposition. I'm more concerned with the consideration a few people have given such an idea(using a kitchen knife for nefarious reasons) as a result of this news piece. Sooner or later, cars will be banned because they are the majority means of transporatation for the purchase of these horrible instruments of death....

Hey, why don't we ban flowers too? Those sharp pointed ends of those flowers can make a person blind when you poke his eyes with it you know?

Its not the knives and guns that kill people, it is the people that kill people. Even if you banned everything on earth, people will still kill each other. Maybe we should just ban people altogether.

Did The NRA Write This Article?

I double-checked to make sure this article wasn't actually published by The Onion.

Nope, this is genuine BBC and reported with the stiffest of Britonian upper lips.

Stunning. Absolutely stunning. I never expected to see this in my lifetime. I had to archive the article, it's just too priceless.

And people are saying this with a straight face.

Meanwhile, in a pot of boiling water somewhere, a frog stirs uncomfortably, but does not jump.

Yes, that sound you hear in the bonnie isles is the rest of the world laughing.

Coming Soon To BBC News

Ice picks or ice hammers: Which should be banned first?

Experts say: Both, and hurry!



...and there are certain fruits which are far too dangerous when unripe. And coconuts are right out!

No Sporting Purpose For Assault Knives

Originally posted by subz
Do you really need those massive knives?

Dude, I'm sorry, but you're killing me ("assault posts"?).

If you're not totally pulling my leg, I really think you need to take a step back and look at this.

I'm all for safety and whatnot -- heck I wear eye protection when I use a screwdriver.

But I truly, honestly and sincerely think the good intentions of this concept are lost in its limitless absurdity.




Meanwhile, back in Britain, as the numbers of impulse scaldings reaches alarming proportions, doctors recommend banning teapots and any pot capable of producing boiling water. In the wake of the coconut ban, it seemed the only proper thing to do.