It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

NEWS: Doctors call for long pointed kitchen knives to be banned in UK.

page: 2
0
<< 1    3  4  5 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on May, 27 2005 @ 09:25 AM
link   


Sporty, unless your planning on skinning a bear there's no need for a kninfe that size.....

large knives are good for diceing and chopping. Large knives are good for Christmas and Thanksgiving (that's an American holiday) ham and turkey and other large pices of meat.

anyways devilwasp, unlike you I can control myself when in the presence of sharp objects....it's called self control thier kiddo.

Man you have no adventure in your life do you?




posted on May, 27 2005 @ 09:33 AM
link   

Originally posted by SportyMB
large knives are good for diceing and chopping. Large knives are good for Christmas and Thanksgiving (that's an American holiday) ham and turkey and other large pices of meat.

Yes but haveing a knife hlaf the size of your arm is not needed.
They may be good for chopping but there far too dangerous.


anyways devilwasp, unlike you I can control myself when in the presence of sharp objects....it's called self control thier kiddo.

I can control myself thank you very much, I wont lower myself to that level by using personal insults


Man you have no adventure in your life do you?

No I mean all that traveling around the country , raceing, shooting, offshore sailing , etc is rather boring isnt it...



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 09:33 AM
link   
You cant get onto a plane with a pair of sciscors, whats the difference?

The argument from the doctors is that long sharp knives are not needed any more. Whether or not it will prevent deaths is up for debate. The fact that long knives are unwarranted is not.

djohnsto77, I think your generalizations here are disgusting and not becoming from some one who is supposedly an 'expert'. Keep your racist bigotry to yourself in future


[edit on 27/5/05 by subz]



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 09:52 AM
link   

Originally posted by devilwasp
Yes but haveing a knife hlaf the size of your arm is not needed.
They may be good for chopping but there far too dangerous.

OK, Maybe in the UK...but not in the states.



I can control myself thank you very much, I wont lower myself to that level by using personal insults

OK




Man you have no adventure in your life do you?

No I mean all that traveling around the country , raceing, shooting, offshore sailing , etc is rather boring isnt it...

So you aprrove of shooting which leads me to believe you approve of gun ownership...but you don't approve of owning big kitchen kinives? Is that right?

Hey can someone get this kid a gig??? Cuz he's a comedian



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:02 AM
link   
Being a chef and having a nice collection of knives myself, I could gladly tell you the purpose of each and every variation....From a 12 inch chefs knife to a melon scooper...but hopefully that last one is obvious....All of which, used under the wrong circumstance could injure or kill....

But most people I know who enjoy cooking don't use their knives for slaying - Although they could be driven to if someone put them in the dishwasher....or sliced a bunch of citrus and didn't clean the blade....

Those I know who can't cook worth a lick have a fine collection of Ginzus...and nice big bendy plastic semi-serrated dull knives - They're the ones who think that a dull blade is safer to cut with and never understand why they cut themselves every time they pull it out of the drawer....

I agree, and say the best approach is to simply ban these people form owning knives - A simple culinary test to divide them all into knife-worthy and spork-worthy....And then go and ban these quasi-knife companies...

Yes - That's the ticket - That would be much more effective.....It reeks of logic....


[edit on 5/27/2005 by EnronOutrunHomerun]



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:04 AM
link   
I would comment that the British doctors are beyond stupid... but our world is so filled with seemingly intelligent people holding forth stances that defy common sense..... I won't.

A prior comment on this topic used the word BIZARRE.

We live in a world where that word has become commonplace in terms of the absolutely absurd which is thrust upon us 'common folk' by those
supposedly in the legal/medical/governmental communities.

I eagerly await (with sharpened knife) the next such imbecility.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:12 AM
link   

Originally posted by devilwasp

Originally posted by SportyMB
large knives are good for diceing and chopping. Large knives are good for Christmas and Thanksgiving (that's an American holiday) ham and turkey and other large pices of meat.

Yes but haveing a knife hlaf the size of your arm is not needed.
They may be good for chopping but there far too dangerous.


So, assuming you're not joking or trolling, would you be in favor of a law that banned fabric shears that are over 3" in length? I mean, it's not like you're going to get an entire piece of fabric between the jaws of a scissors, so something 3" or so should do it for any reasonable person?

When you think about it, a good pair of fabric shears are just a couple very sharp knives pinned together.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:17 AM
link   
My first respose to this was, "Stop that, that's silly."

And I think in this case the first response was the best possible. I've read this article on several different sites today, and nowhere has the debate avoided going into shallow personal insults.

If you don't have a use for knives, don't own them, but don't tell others they can't have them. Even though I'm now leary as can be of the 9 inch chef's blade that unexplicably bit me last year, havung a government ban them would be ridiculous.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:19 AM
link   
take away their knives, how will they eat their steaks?

eww....those proper, refined brits, eating with their hands???
you have got to be kidding!!!



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:21 AM
link   
take away their knives, how will they eat their steaks?

eww....those proper, refined brits, eating with their hands???
you have got to be kidding!!!


ya know, I could do some serious bodily injury with a printing press....maybe they should be banned also?

or a die cutter for that matter.....matter of fact that would be even better....the guys at work used to have a riot with those and full cans of soda!!

[edit on 27-5-2005 by dawnstar]



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 10:56 AM
link   

Originally posted by AgentSmith
Doctors are calling for long pointed kitchen knives to be banned in the UK. Apparantly a lot of murders/attempted murders in the home are commited with these knives, so doctors are calling for them to be banned.


Leave it to British Doctors to come up with something so ridiculous


I do not care if it is a 3 inch paring knife or 10 inch knife they both can kill, hell even a box cutter can kill. Does that mean we should ban everything on earth with a sharp edge? ridiculous



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 11:11 AM
link   
Maybe they should ban the doctors, medical malpractice kills more people than knives and guns EVER will.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 11:35 AM
link   
I have a vast collection of swords. Samurai swords, a barbarian broadsword (my personal favorite) and assorted daggers. I have to say those doctors are right! I should have these things taken away because the urge to thrust them into unsuspecting victims is just too great! Geeze.... But seriously, long knives serve a purpose to those who cook meals of any size. I would be interested to see what happened if the long knives were banned. I think the deaths would continue but the instruments would change from long kitchen knives to....what exactly? Forks perhaps? Nah, I think they would just die of smaller knife wounds.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 11:48 AM
link   
Well I'm sure happy I don't live in the UK!


They can have my knife when they pry it from my cold dead hands.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 11:58 AM
link   

Originally posted by FreeThinking1
I have a vast collection of swords. Samurai swords, a barbarian broadsword (my personal favorite) and assorted daggers. I have to say those doctors are right! I should have these things taken away because the urge to thrust them into unsuspecting victims is just too great!


Yes, but the thing is that you choose not to! in other words you know what's right and wrong and you make a choice.
I have several 'implements' on display and such but I would never seriously consider using them against anyone. The day I ever did it would be a very VERY good reason, but I doubt it will ever happen.
At the end of the day, like someone else said, you can still use your fists/hands/feet if it comes to it. You could jump into a car and mow a crowd down, go on a rampage in the street with a chainsaw or axe - are they going to ban them too?

And anyway, a relatively short knife will kill just as well as a big knife, it's only 2/3 inches to the heart I believe, and you need a knife a lot bigger than 3" to carve up your Sunday roast! The big 12" knife is just about comfortable for the task!

Ridiculous........

I can't wait to hand over my £93 for the privelige of having my lovely ID card so someone can steal it and have access to my full details. Oh and so they can track me through the RFID chip... But that's another topic..

It's all getting stupid, and since 9/11 it's been getting stupid FAST!

[edit on 27-5-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 12:18 PM
link   
I wonder what the reaction would be if these "stupid doctors" refused to treat knive wounds. How fun would it be to argue the merits of knife-owning while youre gushing blood at a lethal rate.

How people can claim these doctors are "stupid" or "typically stupid British doctors" I dont know. They are advocating something that they think will save lives. They are sworn to protect our health and lives yet all most of you can do is deride them when they try to save our selfish arses.

The original article said they surveyed 10 of Britains top Chefs and:


and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.


They are not banning all knives, just long sharp ones that account for more than half of stabings.

They said short knives would result in mostly superficial injuries while the longer knives have a greater chance of hitting the internal organs.

If you people would read the justification these professional life preservers are giving you you might think twice about it.

Do you really need those massive knives?



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 01:36 PM
link   
I imagine I will incurr the wrath of someone who lives in England, but you folks who are pro-"take away those knives" are kind of making me shake my head.

I know it might come as a surprise to some of you, but it seems to me that everyone is kind of overlooking the freedom to make a choice.

However, it is your country, not mine. If you want it controlled by the mentality (politicomilitary) that could easily be running mine, and that brought you really inciteful humane treatment, like Iraq, (You're military is there as well due to political intervention), My Lai ( a little known civilian massacre by those kind hearted, knowing right from wrong soldiers in Viet Nam) ... etc.... then, by all means, proceed. It is, after all, your enslavement. And I'm kind of curious as to when it will all stop?

And DevilWasp, you are beginning to sound like a comical parody of the Englishmen that I knew, partied, lived and trained with when I lived in you wonderful country. To paraphrase a comical line from "Patton", by your own well respected Monty, "We shall jump out and bit them like a rabid rabbit".

I really do not mean to be insulting, but what I read from you and folks, who apparently, think like you, are not the same lines of people who stood shoulder to shoulder and drove back the Vikings, who unified the British Isles, who drove back the Zulu nation, who stood shoulder to shoulder in the blood soaked trenches of WWI and kept back the Hun, who stood practically alone in one of the most valiant stances I have ever seen to hold back the dark, evil shadow of Hitler and the Nazis, who sent an invasion force to a contested island to keep the invaders from taking over and terrorizing British citizens... And on and on....

No.... Let them have my large firearms, my knives, my cricket bat, my .... whatever makes them comfortable enough to own my soul and run my life to their own ends...

Ahhhh..... It is, after all, your country. If you want to live there and adventure on without the basic responsibility of making your own decisions and taking responsibility for what happens and what you really choose. Go ahead. I'll stay here, a freeman, able to choose what implement I want to carve my balogna sandwich in half with.

Have a most pleasant if undestracted, and unresponsible life.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 01:46 PM
link   
God this is the stupidest thing I've heard off this week. Like Banning kitchen Knives is going to stop murder. Look if you're pissed off enough you'll kill the son of a bitch with your bare hands. Who needs knives?



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 01:49 PM
link   
This sort of thing is what truly distubs me about the Supreme Court and other so-called leaders when they start preaching about how American law needs to follow international law. This probably won't fly in the UK, but what if a bunch of smaller nations pass such laws. If they hold a decent number of UN seats, then what happens?

Such laws, of course, only affect the "peons". The rich, the famous, the powerful, they will find ways around it.

I hope anyone who take this into the UK legislative system gets laughed out of their position.

now I gotta stash pointed sticks to hide when the NWO takes over



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 01:57 PM
link   
The absolute *worst* reason to legislate or ban anything is for the reason that you *can't see a need for it". It's shortsighted and dangerous thinking. Especially when you let a minority decide what's necessary.

Who really needs more than one news channel? Who really needs more than one brand of soda (it's bad for kids, you know). Who needs more than one airline, one newspaper. Who needs to have more than one child, or in that vein, who really needs to have children?

Who really needs free speech protected in public? It is proven to cause injuries and property damage...should we limit that as well, control it to certain places and sizes of crowds, because too large an unruly mob is unnecessary to make the point?

Most things that allow freedom and growth are dangerous. Can you tell me government does not take things well beyond their intended spirit and scope, whenever it is in its (or its rich and powerful lobbyists) interest? Who decides what is necessary and what is not? Corporations? Governments? Tyrants?

This sounds so much like the worst socialist/communist plans that were implemented in the perversion of Lenin's vision.




Originally posted by subz
You cant get onto a plane with a pair of sciscors, whats the difference?

The argument from the doctors is that long sharp knives are not needed any more. Whether or not it will prevent deaths is up for debate. The fact that long knives are unwarranted is not.

djohnsto77, I think your generalizations here are disgusting and not becoming from some one who is supposedly an 'expert'. Keep your racist bigotry to yourself in future


[edit on 27/5/05 by subz]



new topics

top topics



 
0
<< 1    3  4  5 >>

log in

join