Zero Point Generator ready? Solution to oil?

Originally posted by uhoh
I don't believe in zero-point energy, because it violates the three laws of thermodynamics. You can't get something for nothing.

Bullocks and a missconception (and in case of debunkers, simply a big fat lie) about ZPE and vacuum energy .

You don't get something from nothing, you get something from something, this being energy from the universal energy field present everywere around us, which is scientific fact, both trough theory and experimental evidence, lookup the casimir effect.

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look at this: www.free-energy-info.co.uk...
and download this: www.free-energy-info.co.uk...

anyone who looks at these above has a granted permission to
tell everyone. please do this.
do you remember the inventor of the car which used water (H2O)
rather than oil? an oil boss killed him becouse that invention conflicted
to his interests. take care for yourself while distributing these things. regards.

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And every depression has lead to a world war, reducing population. That is not genius unless genius is another word for mass murder...

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what an ignorant person you are....

they aren't saying free energy beceause they believe it will be free to them... but if you understood how nature works you would understand that you pay for it and you put your own energy to start the devices at times if they slow down for whatever reason. The concept of free energy means something more like Free of Coal and Free of Oil products... get it right.

There are any number of over unity or zpg that are locked up
in patents that will not be used.

I don't know if any Tesla patents disappeared but I heard of patents
that are secret to secure use only by the military.

The Dr Moray device is still being worked on and can explode if
the load is removed.
The device is similar to electricity from isotopes or ionizing air so
I wonder how safe those are.

I still say vibrations from earth or in the sea might be devised to
generate electricity. And wonder if Tesla already made the device.

Working with plasma might be explosive as with the Papp designs.
Working with a turbine in a less explosive mode and in the Tesla
VTOL patent should power even the elusive UFO or electric car.

reply to post by uhoh

The problem with the second law of thermodynamics is that as it is stated, it is incorrect.

One problem a lot of our physics models is that they are based on observation and mathematical models are derived from those observations.

Now if I had a process that had the numbers randomly jumping from +4 to + 16, to -8 to -12, and you took a point measurement, you may read 0.

Is that what's really going on? Of course not! But that is where physics stands today.

Last November, I held a perfect electret in my hand. The materials were precursor engineered, and the source of all this energy was in fact, ZPE. At the time, it was two years old, and had been putting out steady current all that time. You could short it out, and then watch the meter instantly rise back to full power.

Just because we don't have certain things in the market is not to say they don't exist.

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the zero point generator is real it does produce a non volatile waste which has to be disposed of roughly every three months according to the information on the model i saw on thinkgeek.com

Where do you get something for nothing?
Lets start with that zero.

Now a piece of isotope or Radium will cost you something.
But what do you get.
An ionizing agent.
It creates charges.
Once charges are created then force from + and - exists.
The separation by a permanent magnetic field and an electric
field will build up a battery charge.

This is way more substantial than a static accumulation of 15kv to
30kv from a AD Moore device that has little power.

The radioactive or artificial isotope generators are current generators
like Dr Moray had and I assume that there are many of these around.
I would call them ZPE generators.

They tend to over charge batteries and cause explosions and the
gases generated can be stored but might also explode.

Focusing Cosmic particles may have been achieved as I have
seen solid hemispheres of metal which in one Tesla patent is
focused on a collection plate/capacitor. Definitely ZPE in unlimited
quantity as Tesla stated and mostl likely has been going on
since the patent.

Zero point generators do exist, just like h2o cars exist, but anyone that tries to develop then is either ridiculed, threatened, bankrupted, jailed, or finally killed. Wake up people we do not live in a free society.

Patent number 3106058 Propulsion System
Figure 2 Looks similar to the Alfred Hubbard Coil Device and
Figure 4 Looks similar to Leedskalnin Magnet Wheel Generator

www.scribd.com...

Originally posted by uhoh
I don't believe in zero-point energy, because it violates the three laws of thermodynamics. You can't get something for nothing.

Zero point is some thing that creates the formation of elements.
Mostly Helium.
This does nothing if you can't use Helium for power.
Helium is used for power in converted car engines by a Mr Papp.
Called the Papp Plasma Engines on youtube.

A radio active element or substance emits the Helium parts which
combine on there own to make Helium.

Tesla devised a way to make Radium that can make Helium.
X rays or other ways can make ordinary substances radio active
and we can have more Helium that way.

Tesla researchers indicate the if Cosmic Rays (which are actually
high speed particles from the universe of Suns) could be blocked
there would be no radioactivity.

Tesla said his death ray was not a ray but a narrow particle gun
to power remote places.

So the creation of Helium must violate all thermodynamic laws.
Running Helium in engines that give pressure from sparks that
allow re formation sounds like a perpetual fuel and must be
attributed to atomic processes and zero point energy.