Mohammad Mazouz - Survivor of Guantanamo

Survivor of Guantanamo.
Every else is dead?
Sorry but even the thread title reeks of propaganda.

And what if this so-called enemy is really not guilty for the crimes that he was arrested?

Cut their throat just to make sure, huh?


*Guilty until proven Innocent*

yet more racism from our neo-con friends! just because it has the word muslim or islam doesn't make it any less true. I could be saying the same thing about the vast majority of the US Media but then I'd be accused of being anti-american

Try this from the Amnesty International site

web.amnesty.org...

But then I suppose you consider them to be a islamic propaganda site too?

I guess that means that he survived all the "interrogation techniques" that were used upon him - as I remember the Photos from Guantanamo and Abu Gharib, to survive this interrogation and to talk about it then, you must be one Strong Individual.

Why is it propaganda?

I suggest that you read this report - Testimonies from Former Guantanamo Bay Detainees

"Ali, age 26, was detained at various Iraqi locations from July 2003 to June 2004. He was subjected to beatings with hands, feet and chains to the point of unconsciousness, stabbing, burning, shocks and mutilation, isolation while naked and hooded in a coffin-like box, prolonged sleep deprivation enforced by beatings and being dragged face-down on the ground, desecration of the Koran, soldiers urinating on him, extreme deprivation of food and water, mock executions and threats of death and transfer to Guantánamo or other countries."
- American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First, Afghan and Iraqi Prisoners Detail Abuse By US Torturers, Don Knowland

Presumably they decided this guy was innocent, & that's why they released him.
After all, if they really thought he was a terrorist, I doubt they'd let him go.

I suspect a lot of these guys just happened to be in the wong place at the wrong time.

How is a what I said racism? I said the site was Bias and full of lies.
how is that racism? hell I even say fox news bias....

I agree, just because it has the word muslim or islam doesn't make it any less true......I just think the site is extremely bias, more than most sites.

Souljah what would you expect from bush really when his friend crown prince abdullah of Saudi Arabia is listed as the worlds fifth worst dictator and his other friend Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan is number 7.

archive.parade.com...

What I find disgusting are these individuals complaining about the USA, when the people they are defending are trying to blow up school children and innocent Iraqi civilains.

I am also still amazed that no promenient muslim has come out to to speak against these actions. These actions are not part of the Islamic faith. I thought Islam was a peaceful religion? These 'so-called' freedom fighters, whom are actually a bunch of pussy, camel molesting cowards, reflect very poorly on Islam itself and yet no one of Islamic importance speaks up. HOW PATHETIC!

Plenty of Islamic sholars & religious leaders have publicly condemmned OBL, terrorism, etc. There was just a fatwa issued against Bin Laden last month IIRC.

It just doesn't make the news. It's not what people want to hear, so they don't hear it...

Your pro-war like stance reeeeeks of ignorance my friend. Your ability to classify "terrorists" into a general category of "Mohammed" implies you declare war on a religion, not terrorists. Your comments are centered around racist fears of other cultures.

You should read this..

Children are being held at GB without trial, lawyer representation, family contact etc. However, in your existence the GB American Judge and Jury exceeds all. Hulkamaniac Pro-America from the 80's is dead ya know. The world has come to the understanding that America has become the cause, and solution to the instability on this planet.



Are you getting war like flashbacks from Vietcong POW camps? Woops, I meant to say GB! Because the two have absolutely no resemblance as of late right?

Nice Lniks arnold_vosloo!



And whats with this Numero Uno Dictator - why dont the good ol' US Police come and rescue the people, that suffer in the south of Sudan?

He's an Islamic Extremist and a threat to the people of Sudan!



Hmm - not much Oil Reserves in Sudan, huh?

Or Poppy Fields.

This is true!!! Some Islamic leaders have spoke out and even a very few against the actions taken by the "insurgents". But to really make a difference I believe they will have to start educating young muslims as a whole. Kinda like how many racist in America are just mirrors of thier fathers. Many of the "bad" muslims are mirros of thier fathers too, only they have built on that and Voila!! terrorist/insurgents. A religion, school, church, whatever can teach all they want about peaceand love...but at the end of the day the kid is gonna absorb what his parents and older siblings and thier friends spit out.

Can we try to keep this civilized? There's no need for an in depth analysis of other members' political beliefs or sarcasm directed at others. I'm sure we can talk about the subject without resorting to the petty stuff.

Agreed souljah, Darfar is a far more urgent situation to be resolved than iran or North Korea. But of course the fact nothing has been done about it has nothing to do with oil

I found this other link too about the US human rights record which makes interesting reading

www.csmonitor.com...

syntaxer, your confused about who the enemy is in the world....the punks at GB were not locked up for stealing soda pops at the local store.

They were locked up because they have a direct connection to Islamic terrorists. Now your "raciest" remark is right on the money, I make no bones about not liking Muslims and I don't hide my prejudices.

For the most part, Im the type of American the Muslims hate most and I Hate them in return. I was not always like this, in college my best friend was Palestinean, but 9/11 opened my eyes and I saw the true face of Islam. Thats just the way it is.

Maximu§

maximus you have the right to fell that way about muslims despite it being completely wrong but I've said it many many times that the vast majority of muslims imprisoned in Gitmo and Abu Gharab were innocent and were never charged and have now been released. Does that still make it ok to torture them? No there is never a justification to torture anyone for anything no matter what they are are alleged to have done. Look at my post above which explains why torture is not right



Even the chinese are critisising the US Human Rights Records now and we all now what they are like

I suggest that you use that hatred and anger and start a campaign against a Real Muslim dictator Number 1 - and he is now in Sudan, killing hunreds of thousands of Inncent people.

Oh I forgot - the hypocricy of United States is so obvious is this kind of cases, when they can simply turn one eye blind and leave this people to suffer further. I guess these people are not the "terrorists" that US is supposed to "fight".

The problem here is, that US can use diffrent illegal versions of troture, and is a terrible example to all the other states, that "will use" this methods in future.

Though I believe the US report on China tries to reflect accurately what is happening, American actions (in Iraq) has made it easier for the Chinese to criticize America, and makes it easier for more abusive governments to justify their own actions.

I find it interesting that people get upset at the deeds done to a book. This is an inanimate object filled with words. The words are not holy, but the message is. Do what you will to the book. No one cares. Any good cleric would know that.

Torture? It could be much worse. A couple of people I worked with in '99 told me how they got "information" out of people in Central America. Not pretty at all. I don't think they did it for information, but for payback. Gitmo is not in the same league, much less playing the same game. If you are hearing of torture, it is to make the place sound worse than it is. Listening to a never ending recording of a baby crying or stress positions is not torture. Irritating, maybe, but not torture. Frat pledges get more torture... and they VOLUNTEER for it.

Torture yeilds very poor results when it comes to valuable information.

Cole,



and fools seldom differ.

Cheers

BHR

LAMAX,



So you admit racism and prejudice, yet you regularly appear on a site that is about denying ignorance. How do you not feel like a hypocrite?

You mention a friend you had at college who was Palestinian. What are your feelings towards him now?

Cheers

BHR