 |
|
Topic started on 26-5-2005 @ 01:00 PM by Souljah
|
"The Americans urinated on the Qur’an and sexually abused us."
Mohamed Mazouz forms part of the five Moroccan survivors from Guantanamo. After more than three years and a half of detention between Pakistan,
Kandahar, Bagram and Guantanamo, he has just been released on bail while waiting for the trial verdict in July 4, 2005. In this exclusive interview
with La Gazette du Maroc, he reflects on all the stages of his detention, the torture, the parallels with Abu Ghraib prison and the fate of the twelve
other Moroccans who are still held by the Americans.
Q: What treatment was reserved for the Quran?
A: Here, I want to be insistent on letting know to the whole world through what I say until where the Americans went to humiliate us and flout our
most elementary principles. It concerns the treatment inflicted to the Quran. Anything that could reduce it to nothing was used. They urinated over
it, they ripped it; they cut it with scissors in front of us. They defecated on it and painted our faces with it. Yes, all this should be said so that
the Muslim world understands which degree of hate this sacred Book inspires in them. I do not see why it came to that. One day, and in the Red Cross
presence, they took all the Qurans of the prison to rip them in front of all of us. They behaved as regards to this noble Book as if it were a vulgar
object. When we protested, we were tortured very badly. Each time they behaved like that as regards to the Quran, we were roused and obviously we were
severely punished. It was a vicious circle. The other forms of torture consisted in unleashing dogs against us when we were naked, in groups in the
showers, or then, at interrogation time. Dogs are prowled about this kind of work and sometimes the detainees were violently bitten. We became insane,
at the same time experiencing fear, hysteria, hearing the cries of the others, enduring the cold, hunger and strong headaches. As far as I am
concerned, I formed part of the first group who arrived and the last to leave. I endured everything.

Read the rest of the interview here.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:07 PM by XphilesPhan
|
Not to be rude but this sounds like nothing more than propaganda. does he have scars from the bite marks? he looks relatively well for the abuse he
just stated he suffered. The site you got this off of looks like a propaganda site as well. just thought id point it out
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:12 PM by LA_Maximus
|
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So this POS terrorist was being "terrorized" in Guantanimo Bay?
GOOD! If I was a Guard there I would give these creeps a rifle-butt upside the head for breakfast and a kick in the balls for lunch....we should set
up a Great-White shark tank there and feed em to the sharks.
These guys were caught doing some pretty bad stuff to get tossed into GB and I have no sympathy for them.....none at all.
especially for a guy named "Mohammed". Just hearing that name makes me reach for my Remmington shot-gun.
Maximu§
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:18 PM by Souljah
|
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
...I would give these creeps a rifle-butt upside the head for breakfast and a kick in the balls for lunch
...we should set up a Great-White shark tank there and feed em to the sharks.
...especially for a guy named "Mohammed". Just hearing that name makes me reach for my Remmington shot-gun.

Wow, what a show of complete Ignorance!
I bet if you were a guard you would also "urinate on the Qur’an" to "give these creeps" what they deserve, right?
Keep up the Good work mister Maximus, and dont allow any of those "Mohammeds" to slip thru your fingers and your Remington shotgun.
PEACE.

[edit on 26/5/05 by Souljah]
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:28 PM by XphilesPhan
|
Notice how your told your ignorant if you state that you dislike muslims. I always thought that neutrality was aproduct of ignorance since you dont
know how they treat prisoners,etc. all i'm saying is maybe Maximus's opinion is derived from past expierences and knowledge and not from ignorance.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:31 PM by Souljah
|
And what site does not spread one or the other sort of Propaganda, or does not have any sort of agends or is completly non-biased?
Show me one!
This people on Cageprisoners.com actually take time to document and record this acts of
war crimes, for which someday, somebody will have to Answer in the International Court of Law!
 Cageprisoners.com is a non-sectarian Islamic human rights website that exists solely to raise awareness of the plight of the prisoners at
Guantanamo Bay and other detainees held as part of the War on Terror. The web-site is not aligned to any Islamic group or organisation. The site was
launched in October 2003 during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan by individual Muslim volunteers who came together for the reasons set out below.Our
work can be summed up in six points:
* EDUCATION
* CAMPAIGN
* SUPPORT
* MOTIVATION
* CO-OPERATION
* PREVENTION

|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:37 PM by XphilesPhan
|
That maybe true to a degree, but i prefer reuters or something like that over a propaganda site.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:38 PM by LA_Maximus
|
Thank You Souljah, thats probably the nicest thing you ever said to me. As usual, Ill keep my 12 ga. shotgun loaded and judging by this post, it seems
your not such a bad guy after all.
Maybe a little confused as to who the real enemy is, but generally a nice person who just needs some guidance from us American cowboys.
Maximu§
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:41 PM by Dr Love
|
LA_Maximus
Are you for real man? Since the time you arrived at ATS you seem to have gotten more and more extreme and volatile, and I happen to think you're
doing it just for effect. Let me let you in on a little secret, you're not General Maximus! You're not even Russell Crowe! Hell, you're not even
Carrot Top!!
Needy for attention are we???
Peace
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:50 PM by LA_Maximus
|
Originally posted by Dr Love
LA_Maximus
Are you for real man? Since the time you arrived at ATS you seem to have gotten more and more extreme and volatile, and I happen to think you're
doing it just for effect. Let me let you in on a little secret, you're not General Maximus! You're not even Russell Crowe! Hell, you're not even
Carrot Top!!
Needy for attention are we???
Peace 
Nice try Dr. Love, but I get plenty of attention. I came into ATS hoping to learn and discuss issues with other people, but the Hatred for America in
here surprised and sickened me......so your seeing my reaction to it.
No Im not Maximus, I never said I was, but you must be pretty desparate to attack my handle like that. Please remember I was a soldier and I still
view the world thru a soldiers eyes.
Better Luck next time Dr.....Peace to you also.
Maximu§
[edit on 023131p://444 by LA_Maximus]
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:52 PM by C0le
|
As i sit here reading this article, i find my self wondering rather or not i should care, or just start laughing very loudly.... i think il laugh
ahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:55 PM by Souljah
|
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Thank You Souljah, thats probably the nicest thing you ever said to me. As usual, Ill keep my 12 ga. shotgun loaded and judging by this post, it seems
your not such a bad guy after all.

I am glad that you have realised that I am not one of the Bad Guys.
Thanks!
Maybe a little confused as to who the real enemy is, but generally a nice person who just needs some guidance from us American cowboys.

Trust me, I know who the Enemy of the Free World is - guidance from you, the American Cowboy is really not necessary, thank You very much.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:57 PM by Souljah
|
Originally posted by C0le
As i sit here reading this article, i find my self wondering rather or not i should care, or just start laughing very loudly.... i think il laugh
ahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaha 
I wonder How Loud you would laugh if the Tables were turned, and you were the Survivor of *insert prison camp name here* and I was laughing at your
story.
Are you Good Friends with mister LA_Maximus?
You guys seem to share the same friends and same enemies - are you related?
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:01 PM by C0le
|
Originally posted by Souljah
You guys seem to share the same friends and same enemies - are you related? 
Nope never met him in real life nor do i know him in the real world, but great minds do think alike.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:02 PM by deltaboy
|
im surprise this "prisoner" is even alive and talkin, u think he CIA at least sew up his mouth or at least some kind of threat that will shut him up
or assasinate him. they could have at least torture him to death. if he aint dead that means he had a good life in Cuba.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:04 PM by XphilesPhan
|
Who's your enemy souljah? The US? nope, wrong! i think we are the lest thing you should be concerned with.
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:09 PM by Dr Love
|
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Nice try Dr. Love, but I get plenty of attention. I came into ATS hoping to learn and discuss issues with other people, but the Hatred for America in
here surprised and sickened me......so your seeing my reaction to it.
No Im not Maximus, I never said I was, but I was a soldier and I still view the world thru a soldiers eyes.
Better Luck next time Dr.....Peace to you also.
Maximu§

All that anger's not good for you Max. You're gonna stroke out if you don't watch it. Just reading your posts one can feel the hate.
Consider yourself lucky that you were born an American and you weren't born in Afghanistan or Iraq or any other Godforsaken country we decide to roll
over in the future. I'm telling you if you keep this up things might not work out so well for you in the next life. Paybacks a bitch!! There are good
people in Iraq that are getting wiped out, and the only thing they did wrong was to draw the short end of the stick and be born an Iraqi. When you
think that way it puts everything in perspective.
Peace
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:09 PM by C0le
|
Originally posted by deltaboy
im surprise this "prisoner" is even alive and talkin, u think he CIA at least sew up his mouth or at least some kind of threat that will shut him up
or assasinate him. they could have at least torture him to death. if he aint dead that means he had a good life in Cuba. 
Ahh dont go and spoil my dreams of pain and torture to those scumbags!
/day ruined..
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:11 PM by SportyMB
|
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHA
HAHAHHAAAAAAAAAA
HAH!!! This site has LIES and POOP all over it...I mean just look at the name, www.cageprisoners.com...
cage prisoners, Hmmm I bet it is bias with a name like that...novel friggen concept huh!!!
Anyways Souljah....have you ever thought that you could be Maximus's brother? perhaps seperated at birth.
Kind of like opposites ya know.
But that would be an insult to Max...sorry Max
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |
reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 02:21 PM by LA_Maximus
|
Originally posted by Dr Love
[There are good people in Iraq that are getting wiped out, and the only thing they did wrong was to draw the short end of the stick and be born an
Iraqi. When you think that way it puts everything in perspective.
Peace 
I agree Dr. Love, good people are getting wiped out in Iraq......unfortunately its the Iraqi civilians that are getting wiped out by the Islamic
terrorists, who could care less how many innocents get wiped out. Have you read the news??
The terrorists we have locked up in GB are of the same type causing havoc ALL over the world....from Thailand to Tunasia, Islamic terrorists are
planting bombs, cutting throats, assasinating the brave ones who speak out and planning new terror campaigns.
So Im not the one confused here Dr, Im afraid you and Souljah are.....I know how to deal with enemies who want to cut my throat...I will cut theirs
first.
Maximu§
|
reply to this post:
copyright & usage
|
 |