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NEWS: Declassified FBI Records Back Up Newsweek Koran Report




Topic started on 25-5-2005 @ 03:39 PM by subz


The Newsweek reports that Korans had been descrated at Guantanamo Bay have been echoed in recently declassifed FBI records. The reports from as far back as April 2002 cite prisoners saying "Their behavior is bad, About five months ago the guards beat the detainees. They flushed a Quran in the toilet." The ACLU claim the absence of a real investigation into high-ranking military officers is fostering a climate of international mistrust of Americans in the Middle East.




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WASHINGTON - Terror suspects at the Guantanamo Bay prison told U.S. interrogators as early as April 2002, just four months after the first detainees arrived, that military guards abused them and desecrated the Quran, declassified
FBI records say.

"Their behavior is bad," one detainee is quoted as saying of his guards during an interrogation by an FBI special agent in July 2002. "About five months ago the guards beat the detainees. They flushed a Quran in the toilet."

The statements about guards disrespecting the Quran echo public allegations made many months later by some detainees and their lawyers after prisoners' release from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. The once-secret FBI documents show a consistency to the allegations and are the first indication that Justice and Defense department officials were aware in early 2002 that detainees were accusing their guards of mistreating the holy book.


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If these reports by Newsweek are being echoed in FBI documents some one isnt telling the truth here. Are we going to see a massive vilification of the FBI because they say the same thing Newsweek did?

The ACLU said the FBI documents that they obtained had large portions of the interrogation summaries blacked out by FBI sensors. For what reasons?

In addition there was also a military guideline issued in January 2003 regarding the correct treatment of detainee's Korans. Why did they need to issue such specific guidelines if no desecration had previously occured? What happend that warranted the new advice?

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reply posted on 25-5-2005 @ 08:26 PM by Jehosephat


Actaully the ACLU and Red Cross have both reported that former detainee's are complaining about Koran Desicration. But there has yet to be a link of officials admiting the reports are true, which is what the newsweek article was really about



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reply posted on 25-5-2005 @ 10:35 PM by MaskedAvatar


Good observations all.

It's disconcerting that at times it seems few people want the answers to these questions. Is it all too complex to understand when you are being lied to?

There is an alternative viewpoint on media manipulation and a link to Washington Post article here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 04:45 PM by subz


The detainees complained about abuse and that was found to be correct. I cant help but wonder that they are spot on about the Koran desecration.

Looking at the photographs of how detainees were sexually and mentally tortured do you really think some of those same people are above flushing a Koran (a mere book to these gob#es) down the toilet?

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reply posted on 27-5-2005 @ 01:33 AM by Nygdan



flushing a Koran (a mere book to these gob#es) down the toilet?


Just for the record, the koran is a mere book. Its one a lot of people like, and its part of a lot of people's faith of course and as such shouldn't be desecrated, but, in the end, it is just some little book.



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reply posted on 27-5-2005 @ 01:41 AM by nukunuku


maybe its only a book to you, but to some people its a basis for their whole beleif system, just as the bible is to your neighbours. I guess some people cant respect that.



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reply posted on 27-5-2005 @ 05:48 AM by subz


No Nygdan thats not true.

To muslims, the Koran is the literal word of God. Its not a series of stories or gospels. Its THE word of God. Much as a church is a house of God, if that was desecrated Christians would be outraged. Thats not a mere building, its a church.

This misconception over the Koran is why people dont understand why muslims would be so offended by this desecration.

To the muslims, desecrating the Koran is akin to crapping in a baptismal font or worse.

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