NEWS: Vendyl Jones to uncover the Ark of the Covenant by Aug. 14, page 3
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reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 01:58 PM by Bly Magister
From the Wikipedia article "Indiana Jones" - en.wikipedia.org... - "The character was originally named Indiana Smith, but Spielberg disliked the name and Lucas casually suggested "Indiana Jones"."

And then, there is obviously a discrepencey between Vendyl Jones' website - www.vendyljones.org.il... - and the Wiki on him - en.wikipedia.org... - which states that "[Jones] also claims to have inspired the character of Indiana Jones, although this claim has reportedly been denied by Steven Spielberg."

But then on Jones' website - www.vendyljones.org.il... - "It may be hard to believe but Vendyl has no connection with the popular motion picture character. He has never received any money from the producers of the movie. And he's never asked."

So is there a connection between Indiana Jones and Vendyl Jones? The nearest one, if the above information is factual, would be that Jones and Spielberg are Jewish, though Jones is a converted and not "true blood" Jew, it seems.

Does it really matter? If the above facts are true, it seems that Mr. Jones isn't very truthful. Also, when somebody searches for a mystical artifact their entire life, I wouldn't be suprised if they were somewhat disillusioned; on the other hand, I also wouldn't be suprised if he would participate in propaganda if it makes him look like Indiana Jones.

Since this is comming out of Israel, I think this is propaganda.


reply posted on 26-5-2005 @ 03:17 PM by Fu Manchu
Reading the entire article on the Arutz Sheva website
www.israelnationalnews.com...
and comparing it to the material at Vendyl Jones website
www.vendyljones.org.il...
gives me the distinct impression that the Zionist propagana machine is in full swing.

First, the Israeli article claims Vendyl Jones is the source of the "Indiana Jones" character while Vendyl's website says not, in the FAQ. [I know this has been already pointed out] But like of propaganda of any stripe, the point is to make an impression on the reader. Most folks don't check up on journalists' facts.

Second, both the article & Jones's website say he is a leader of the Noahide movement
Once a Christian pastor, Jones left his post to become a leader of the growing Noahide movement. Noahides are G-d fearing non-Jews who observe the seven laws of Noah, which are obligatory upon all of humanity.


Actually, the "Noahide movement" is a front organization to drum up support for the most extremist factions in Israel among American Protestant fundamentalists. The reason it's "growing" is that it gets a lot of support from the pro-Zionist organizations that also lobby Congress so heavily in support of Israel.

As an example of the weirdness of this movement, we have this from his bio

Between 1955 and 1956, Jones was pastor of the Dungan Chapel Baptist Church located on the border of Virginia and North Carolina. It was here that Vendyl began to realize that many anti-Jewish statements in the gospels were, as some marginal notes stated, "Omitted in more ancient manuscripts." This prompted Jones to call the nearest Rabbi, Henry Gutman, located in Bristol, Virginia, which resulted in a change in perspective due to many thought provoking facts about the Scriptures.
www.vendyljones.org.il...

There are no serious Christian or atheist Biblical scholars in the 19th or 20th centuries of which I'm aware who ever claimed that "anti Jewish statements" were "Omitted in more ancient manuscripts." The most ancient manuscripts found of the Gospels are very similar to the Gospels printed in most Bibles. The major differences are a few words here or there that bolster Trinitarian theology, not anything to do with "anti-Jewish" incidents or statements. Oh, there's also the section about picking up snakes and drinking poison without harm that is not in some of the oldest MSs. But not the parts about Jesus being arrested and tried by the Romans at the insistance of Jewish leaders.

Anyway, most of the "anti-Jewish" material in the New Testament is found not in the Gospels, but int the Acts of the Apostles which detail many attempts of the Jewish hierarchy to silence or kill Christians, and in various Epistles, where the writers warn of the pernicious influence of Jewish propaganda.

Oddly enough for someone supposedly qualified by years of study to be a Christian pastor, Vendyl Jones was so ill-versed in Biblical criticism that he supposedly found some untrue "marginal notes" that upset him so much that instead of doing some serious Biblical research, he went to a local Jewish Rabbi!

Again, concerning what St. Paul & St. John's epistles have to say about Jewish leaders and religious influence, the notion that a Christian pastor would go to a Rabbi to get straightened out about Christian theology is absurd. After all, the present Jewish religion, whether Orthodox, Conservative or Reform, is an historical development of the Pharasee sect, the Sadduccess and Essenes having died out long ago. Considering what Jesus had to say about Pharasees, the story becomes all the more unlikely the more detail one focusses upon.

Here's the real point of the story:

“At Kadesh Barnea, [the Jewish Nation] sent in those [twelve] spies who gave the evil report, and because they believed the evil report, they were sentenced to wander for 38 years before they could come into Gilgal” – an ancient city near Jericho.

“1967 was a repetition of Kadesh Barnea,” Jones says. “If Israel had come in and taken this place, the Arabs would have fled like they did in 1948. But no, because of the evil report of Golda Meir and Motta Gur and Moshe Dayan, who said ‘We cannot do that, world opinion will be against us.’ So Israel was sentenced to 38 years more – and June the 7th [2005], Jerusalem Day, will be the 38th year.

Jones believes that the Jewish prophecies regarding the greatly anticipated redemption are occuring in front of our eyes.


Meaning: God wants the Jews to exterminate Arabs like the Ancient Hebrews exterminated the Canaanites. The Israeli leaders in 1967 weren't fanatical enough. Let's let them do in in the summer of 2005!

The fact that International Law, that allowed for the creation of the State of Israel, also set aside Jerusalem as an international city to be controlled by no religious faction no doubt will never be mentioned by this holy bunch of fanatics. After all, might makes right! God fights on the side that gets the most military aid from Congress!

Thnk God that most Christians and even most Jews don't fall for this crap!



reply posted on 30-6-2005 @ 10:20 AM by BadMojo
Here's the most recent article I have found regarding the finding.

www.canadafreepress.com...

Apparently, everything is still on schedule for August 14. Coincidentally, this is one day before the scheduled withdrawl of 5000 or so Israelis from the Gaza strip.

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