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Raytheon involved in 9/11 ???

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posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 11:09 PM
This is PepeLapiu1 (aka Pepe Lapiu)

ThickHeaded, thanx for the words of encouragement, all others who cheered, thanx to all of you too.

And efrin, good job dude, OUTSTANDING JOB!!, you make me want to re-write the article and include the info you provide.

Now let's see how long before they ban me again for God knows what reason again.

posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 11:25 PM

Originally posted by denythestatusquo

Originally posted by Pepe Lapiu
Let me guess, a Web Fairy fan, right?

Let me know when you learn something about holograms then we can discuss in the open whether it is a legitimate idea or not. You seem to lack knowledge of them thus you dismiss it lightly for you own personal amusement.

Look dude, does the hologram technology exists? Honestly I couldn't care less.

You see we have to reconstruct a probable crime with probable criminals and probable motives.

Now think about this, why would they use holograms when they had a perfectly good real airplane they could use?
So it happened those teckies who died in those planes were not hologram specialists, they were aircraft, electronic and remote control ex-spurts.

The idea of an hologram makes just as much sense at the idea of a missile in the pentagon or the even dumber pod theory at the WTC.

Why would they use a tiny winy missile in the middle of a city full of people and try to pas it off as a big ass Boeing and hope that nobody is going to film it or notice the size discrepancy?
Why would they install mysterious pods on the belly of aircrafts instead of inside when they knew very well some people might notice a bulge on the belly of those aircrafts?
And why would they use an hologram if they already have a plane they want to destroy with full of people inside it they want to get rid of?

All these wild theories lack motive and probability. They are only there to make you and I look like idiots with our wankers flapping in the wind and distract us from the real research.

As for my reference to the Web Fairy, I wasn't trying to insult you in any way, I think you are getting angry for no reason.
But I do think you are a fan of the Web Fairy, or aren't you?
To my knowledge, she is the only one out there promulgating the hologram theory, so I would surely and fairly assume you are a fan of her, no?

Anyway, Cheers and don't eat yellow snow (just trust me on this one and don't ask how I know this)

[edit on 5-11-2006 by smvo0kwdu042du7]

posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 04:38 PM
Yes, Raytheon stand to gain from killing some of the brightest and most talented employees on their books.

[edit on 6-11-2006 by Peyres]

posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Peyres
Yes, Raytheon stand to gain from killing some of the brightest and most talented employees on their books.

I repeat:

Raytheon has gained over $8.5 billions in government military contracts in 2004, nearly double that of pre 9/11 years!

I think that much money can cover 2 or 3 help wanted adds ... don't you think?
For corporations, people are expendable, people are a commodity, nothing else .... but securing a few billions/year in contracts for the next 10 years or more, now that's interesting.

But never mind me, if you want to remain scared senseless of box cutter terrorists and tin pot dictators with WMDs than be my guess.
Just make sure to look under your bed tonight, you never know where communists, terrorists and witches are hiding ..... Oh and pay your taxes too, gubment loves a good citizen!
Don't want to be unpatriotic and question your gubment, now do you?

If I told you an elite rogue element had performed a coup d'etat in the USSR you would believe me without questioning but suggesting the same thing has happened in the USA would make you think I am a loony.

But don't mind me, if you didn't hear it on Fox or in the NY Times, it just didn't happen.

Oh and don't forget to vote either, kuz you live in a democracy, right? ..... Right!

"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today."
~ US President Theodore Roosevelt, 1906

posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 10:44 PM
Excellent work everyone.

I think I will rewrite my article and add some of the stuff found in this thread.

Originally posted by Peyres
Yes, Raytheon stand to gain from killing some of the brightest and most talented employees on their books.

They are making something like 4 billions per year for probably a good ten years or more after the attack ...... how much does it cost to run a "Help Wanted" add these days?

Now, in case you don't understand how much money 4 billion/year is, here is a little help. In order to produce 4 billion/year, you would have to count all that money, no? Well, to count that money and pack it in a brief case and let's assume one briefcase containts only a million. You would have to buy a new briefcase every 2 hours and that for 24 hours a day, 365 days per year.

Yes my friend a cool million for every two hours and that probably for the next 10 years is how much money Raytheon profited from 9/11. Well, actually they were already making money before 9/11, that 4 billion/year is just icing on the cake, added on top of the money they were already making.

So how much does it cost again for a "Help Wanted" add?

[edit on 8-11-2006 by Pepe Lapiu]

posted on Nov, 9 2006 @ 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Peyres
Yes, Raytheon stand to gain from killing some of the brightest and most talented employees on their books.
[edit on 6-11-2006 by Peyres]

Amount of money Raytheon is making for probably a cool ten years or so from the results of 9/11 on a weekly basis:
Cost to run a full "Help Wanted" ad in the NY Times (estimated):
Cost of one of the dead employee's paycheck (estimated)
Cost of blinders to avoid seeing the truth as to what is really going on around you:

Anymore comments, Peyres?

posted on Nov, 9 2006 @ 04:02 PM

posted on Nov, 12 2006 @ 10:49 AM
well if you consider the potential to make lots of money proof, then yes, Raytheon did it.

posted on Nov, 14 2006 @ 08:39 PM
Did you read the thread starter?
If it was only about the money, I would dismiss it but it's not only about the money.

Now, let me ask you, lets say you wanted to throw your car off a cliff, would you get in the car and drive it off the cliff yourself? Would you try and find someone dumb enough to drive it off the cliff for you or would you use a remote control (assuming your car was equipped with such a remote)?

So it happens Raytheon has at least 4 aircraft designs built around remote control technology.
So it happens Raytheon was flying a remote controlled airliner for the first time just a few months before 9/11.
So it happens AT LEAST 5 of their employees who seemed to have connections with aircraft remote control technology died on 9/11 aboard 3 of the 4 airliners.
So it happens Raytheon stood to make a killing in profits from the events resulting from 9/11.
So it happens those Bin Ladden family members were flown out of the country in a rush aboard a jet with a fake tail number directly from a Raytheon airfield.

But hey .... if you think it's all coincidences, then who am I to argue with that kind of logic ..... I hope you buy lottery tickets.
To say that it's just about the money and ignore all the other "coincidences" I mentioned is not looking at the big picture.

Raytheon is not the sole guilty in all this, it is only one of the many facets of the lies of 9/11.

posted on Feb, 17 2007 @ 12:58 PM


Where are the 9-11 debunkers??

The same people who were responsible for developing pilotless aircraft programs for military use, such as Global Hawk, were killed on the hijacked planes.

I'm at a loss of words! This is astounding.

posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 01:21 PM

Only 2 pages of discussion?

What's the matter, does the fact that these people were working on pilotless aircraft programs that might have been used to guide the hijacked planes scream too much of Gov't involvement??

[edit on 2/18/2007 by aecreate]


posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 02:23 PM
Tons of people made a killing (pardon the lame pun) on 9/11. Larry silverstein Anyone?, the insiders who put uptions on airlines?, the oil companies that have had record profits this last 5 years?, defense contractors, the billions missing on the def. department, the list goes on and on.... they guy that masterminded is a genius (an evil genius), I think he assembled a very thight team and took the world for a ride and now that so much info is floating around they will switch to high gearr soon...what will they do, I dont know but I bet they wont let them be caught without a fight of some kind....

posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 03:27 PM
I agree and disagree that this is worth looking at. The whole Raytheon thing, especially the deaths, seems too odd to be coincidence and on the other hand, this all seems too obvious to be a real 9/11 seam. 9/11 was a weird enough day, like a Bermuda Triangle in time you could dump all kinds of things into - Silverstein's well-timed business moves, John O'Neill, etc. If you killed these guys off in mysterious car accidents to silence them on their role in creating the 9/11 RC system, that'd raise eyebrows. but if they're all killed at once on one of those RC planes, eyebrows remain steadily pointed downward. This response would have been known ahead of time.

Or it could all be coincidental. I have to admit it's possible.

posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 04:53 PM
what a interestig post also this might be helpful:

Kenneth Waldie wife:
She remembers that her husband had trouble sleeping two nights before his departure. "He woke me up at 3 a.m., and said 'I'm pacing the house. I can't sleep,' " she said.

"I rubbed his head and tried to calm him down. He was very distressed, but had no idea what it was. Then three days later I remembered, and thought, 'Holy cow, I wonder what that was about.' "

The morning he left home he had written a note for his family: "Rebecca, Marina and Mommy, I will miss everybody very much. See you Friday night." At the end he added, "I fed the dogs but not the fish."
Profile published in THE NEW YORK TIMES on December 9, 2001.

peter gay wife:

"Looking back, one thing strange was that the night before the flight and the early morning on 9/11, Peter seemed more reluctant than usual to leave for California on business like he did every Tuesday for the last year.

No family (except for one) has ever questioned the official story of 911 they have been all very very very quiet...

Too much of a coincidence.

posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 08:01 PM

Well, there's more coincidences tying Raytheon to 9/11 and here they are:

- Raytheon flew the first remote controlled Boeing just a few months ahead of 9/11

- At least 5 of Raytheon's employees died on board 3 or the four aircrafts. All of them appear to have ties with the remote control technology and secretive projects.

- The infamous Saudi Royals and Bin Laden relatives flying out of the country while no one else was allowed to fly did so aboard a Raytheon owned airplane with a fake tail number.

- Raytheon stood to make a whopping profit with their shares skyrocketing due to the events resulting of 9/11. (Raytheon is a military contractor)

But as much as who did on 9/11 and as interesting is who didn't die. Raytheon held office on the 91st floor of the South tower. On that day nobody from above the impact point is believed to have escaped in he South tower while at least 16 people from above the North tower impact point have been known to escape alive.

The strange thing is that Raytheon didn't loose a single employees in the WTC South tower. In other words, they had completely evacuated their offices BEFORE the plane impact!

But of course, this is just an other coincidence ....right?

posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 08:13 PM

Originally posted by piacenza
No family (except for one) has ever questioned the official story of 911 they have been all very very very quiet...

No offense but this is wrong. There have been a few families that spoke up. Just look into the Jersey Girls for instance, those are 3 9/11 widows and then there is also Ellen Mariani (sp?) and I am sure there are others.

There are not that many because most of them were given a very large sum of money after 9/11, it averages around 1.5 million each. It was called a compensation fund but the families had to sign a document promising not to sue the gubment for liabilities or responsibilities.

Hush money really!

[edit on 23-4-2007 by PepeLapew]

posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 08:21 PM

Originally posted by PepeLapew
... but the families had to sign a document promising not to sue the gubment for liabilities or responsibilities.

Hush money really!

Not that I'm doubting such, but would you please afford us some documented examples or substantive proof of said "signed waivers"?

Just curious (?)



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 08:30 PM
America's Secret Guided Weapons during world war 2 thay had Remote-controld planes.thay had a chase plane that followed the plane and could see the insterment panel with a live camera.I seen a tv show about it and he said it was the first tv he ever seen. here is a link i found go down the page alittle bit i will look for more. one version, the GB-4 having a TV camera to assist the controller with targeting. The third class of guided weapon was the remote controlled B-17.

Remote-control or "stand-off" weapons were also used in the Pacific. The TDR-1 Assault Drone carried a 2,000 lb. bomb load or torpedo, and also included a TV camera for close-in guidance. The control plane carried a crew of four which included two pilots who's job it was to control the flight of the drone.

[edit on 23-4-2007 by slayerfan]

posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 09:30 PM

Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Not that I'm doubting such, but would you please afford us some documented examples or substantive proof of said "signed waivers"?

I remember reading it the NY Times a little after 9/11. Of course they didn't refer to it as "hush money".

I also remember hearing more reports of it in the truth movement but I never bothered to check it out because I had the NY Times article to support it.

But I'll see if I can find a link to corroborate it for you. I do remember Ellen Mariani saying specifically that she refused to take the money and sign the said waiver.


posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 10:20 PM
Did you guys notice?
The debunkers don't even bother to post on this thread.

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