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Europeans divided over Iran issue.

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posted on May, 24 2005 @ 12:18 PM

see, they have different views of how to deal with Iran, between Britain and France and Germany. its too much, they need to stay with one voice and view on how to deal with this type of issue. or they be haggling over each other.

posted on May, 26 2005 @ 03:12 PM
What a difference a couple of days makes

WTO agrees entry talks with Iran

Tehran denies that it is seeking to develop nuclear weapons
The World Trade Organisation has agreed to allow Iran to begin membership talks after the US lifted its opposition to Tehran joining the body.

The move comes a day after Iran agreed a deal with European countries to maintain its suspension of nuclear activities and continue talks.

The US said in March it would drop its decade-long block on Iran to help those negotiations.

Iran applied to join the 148-member trade group in September 1996.

- You see?
The European efforts (surprisingly productive considering the 'splits' you imagined) have been successful.
Shame they went and spoiled your anti-EU pitch, huh?
(still, till the next time, eh?)

Maybe if instead of wielding 'a big stick' all the time a little 'carrot' were offered too now and again we might have a little less tension in a world with more of the actual outcomes we all want to see, hmmmm?

[edit on 26-5-2005 by sminkeypinkey]

posted on May, 26 2005 @ 04:22 PM
sminkeypinkey, that's nothing special. Iran is stalling a bit but certainly has made no deal:

May 26, 2005 — TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Hassan Rohani warned on Thursday that an agreement with the European Union reached on Wednesday to provide a two-month breathing space in nuclear talks could still unravel if Iran's leadership objects.

"We told them (the EU) we neither reject your proposal nor accept it," Rohani told state television the day after talks with the foreign ministers of Britain, Germany and France appeared to avert a major showdown over Iran's nuclear plans.

"We will take it to Tehran and if it is acceptable to Tehran then we can discuss it and finalize the talks. But it might be totally unacceptable to Tehran," he added.

ABC News

Just entering these negotiations as part of the "carrot" approach doesn't mean Iran is ready to give up anything yet!

posted on May, 27 2005 @ 05:28 AM
Even if we go along with your point that Iran might be "stalling" (which seems odd given the fact that this current US administartion is publicly backing theirapplication to the WTO) you're avoiding the issue.

You originally claimed Europe was divided over Iran and attempted to take a few 'digs' over this.

The fact is Europe has stayed united and ended up getting Iranian agreement.
Where this goes from here is another matter but your original claim that we were divided to the point of ineffectiveness has been shown (amusingly enough just within a day or two of your attempt to flame) to be totally incorrect.

posted on May, 27 2005 @ 07:29 AM
First of all I didn't start this thread.

Second, there was no deal, the Iranians have said that as per my link

Third, did you have a third point?

posted on May, 27 2005 @ 11:18 AM

Originally posted by djohnsto77
First of all I didn't start this thread.

- Ok first my apologies for sounding as if you were the originator of the thread.

Secondly there is an you own link clearly refers.
It talks about the possibility of the new agreement unravelling does it not?
It might well be a tentative agreement subject to Tehran's approval (and all that depends purely on which report one reads/believes) but nevertheless even if that is so then sufficient agreement has been reached for that to happen.
The Iranians are (and have been for centuries) renouned negotiators.

Thirdly my point was that agreement had been reached, this agreement is substantive enough for your own gov to respond positively to it by recommending Iranian membership of the WTO and this had clearly not been arrived at by a disparate Europe split to the point of incapacity.


[edit on 27-5-2005 by sminkeypinkey]

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