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Originally posted by MrNice
Actually I think you’re missing the point. I was taught in the Army that the M-16 was NOT designed to KILL the enemy. It was designed to WOUND him. Here’s the theory:
A wounded soldier takes 3 soldiers out of combat (1 is wounded and 2 must recover him).
A wounded soldier soaks up lots of supplies and clogs up the enemy’s supply lines.
A wounded soldier affects morale both at the front lines (screaming and panic) and back home (lots of full hospitals, crippled vets, etc).
If a wounded soldier recovers and makes it back to the front lies, it is possible that they are now a liability to the fighting effort due to being gun shy.
A dead soldier can be thrown in a ditch for burial, makes no noise, and is basically a static supply point for more soldiers.
The death is a clean sharp morale impact with less day-to-day reinforcement of the cost of war than a wounded soldier.
U.S. Army doctrine: Infantry only exist to pin down a target until overwhelming force can be brought to bear (Artillery, Air Strikes, Armor, or lots of grenades).
For house to house the grenades and M-16 are fine weapons (although I prefer a beehive round in the old trusty M-203...clears out a room real fast).
The weight of the ammunition and it’s composition were chosen on these facts, not on it’s ability to kill a target (which was 2nd or 3rd on the list of desirable attributes).
Originally posted by Army
There are no...NO....restrictions on beehive (made only for artillery and tank tubes btw), or white phosphorus ("willy" pete) by any of the Geneva agreements, Prague conventions, or Hague Accords.
Smaller flechettes were used in special artillery shells called "beehive" rounds (so named for the very distinctive whistling buzz made by thousands of flechettes flying downrange at supersonic speeds) and intended for use against troops in the open. They were used in the Vietnam War by artillery gunners to defend their positions against infantry attacks. Numerous treaties now forbid their use.
Originally posted by Army
The US never signed any agreement on beehive ammo. In fact, the M1A1 has an unused ballistic computer setting for its beehive.
We don't use it any longer due to logistics. It is rarely used, and takes up room and weight that can be used for better choices in projo's.
The M16 is X pounds of garbage, in any form. I'll get to that part later
Originally posted by deesul69
5.56 is better. Less recoil for quicker followup shots, lighter and smaller rounds means more can be carried. the 5.56 tumbles after penetrating a few inches of flesh, actually causing a larger wound cavity than a 7.62 round which usually penetrates straight through, causing a pen-hole and clean exit.
Shot placement is more important than anything, so the ability to carry twice the amount of ammo is the most important aspect.
Now for deer hunting or long range, obviously a larger, more powerful round is required.
The Stoner design is a great weapons platform. It wouldn't be so popular if it wasn't. It's precise, accurate, tough, and modular. I prefer some of the new gas-piston type as opposed to the direct impingement though.
For SHTF, I definetly prefer the AK though!!
P.S. Since nobody likes to flag around here, I gave you a flag for your post!!edit on 8-6-2011 by deesul69 because: (no reason given)