Originally posted by EarthSister
Obviously you would not trust anybody of another race from another world. That's ok, your choice. But have you ever met any of them yourself?
Do you trust the US government? Remember, the US government (and all governments) are obligated to always tell you what you want to hear, always sound
noble, honest, and good. Always act like they do everything in YOUR best interests, and that they have some deep care for the people, etc. It is very
easy to trust the government, and in fact, a great number of people do trust the government because they are convinced by what the government tells
them. But of course, if you dig a little deeper, if you think a little more critically, you begin to see a "dark" side of governments, and suddenly
you realise they are the direct opposite of everything they claim to be, they are liars, murderers, they spin and spit our propaganda and twist the
"truth" to their favor, they are very much selfish - and do NOT care about the "people" other than as "subjects" to be ruled and controlled, and
our will manipulated. But this is NOT what they say (obviously), and often, this is NOT what they DO, since they want to CONVINCE us that they are in
fact good and have our best interests at heart. So yes you see them donating to charities, giving money for projects to feed the hungry, and other
charades to create the impression that they really care. But it is something called "mask of sanity", which is merely a mask, nothing else. If you
were a cunning empathy-devoid psychopath, and wanted to rule, how would YOU go about it? Of course, through deception, by fooling the people that you
are something that you are not. And who is better at lying than a psychopath, who has no empathy or guilt, who can lie with a straight face, and who
has no "limit" to how far they will go to grab power and control? It is not surprising that this world is ruled by psychopaths, because the rest of
us cannot compete with someone who has no "lines" he won't cross, someone who is an expert at manipulation and deception, and there are MANY such
"psychopaths", and most of them go undetected because they convince the rest of us that they are "just like us", that they care about the world
and everyone in it, that they just want to help. So the question is, how do you tell who is honest and true, and who is a cunning liar?
Now let's take this one step further. If the governments can fool SO MANY people, and the governments are HUMAN - what about aliens who have
intelligence incomprehensibly above ours? If a bunch of cunning but arrogant and still ignorant human neocons in the White House can fool the whole
world, or at least a huge part of the world, would you naively assume that aliens, who are infinitely more intelligenct and cunning, cannot do the
same but in a MUCH better and effective manner? Even the Bible warns that Satan can appear as the "angel of light" - and it was a great analogy to
explain that only in Hollywood movies does evil look like evil and act like evil - in the real world deception is the name of the game, visual,
auditory, and on many other levels. A lot of people "know" G. W. Bush too, and are convinced he is intelligent, kind, and a great leader! A lot of
people who KNOW him personally think this! But those are empty words to those who see objective reality and who critically think while keeping their
biases and "sacred cows" at the door, which is oh-so-difficult given the years of propaganda and conditioning each one of us undergoes.
But now let's add to this a basic understanding of the universe, that it is composed of 2 sides: Ying and Yang. The Darkness and the Light. The
Service to SELF entities, and Service to OTHERS. There are 2 paths you can go, because of free will - down or up. Entropy or Creativity. Greater
non-being, or greater BEING. And so, if you do not see that the universe is a 2-way street and understand what this implies, how can you accurately
judge anyone, when your judgement will end up being subjective and thus null and void? It is easy to call something "great" and "good" and
"nice" and "helpful", in fact, historically, most things that were in fact the direct opposite of all these things were called "good" and
"great", of course to FOOL the naive with happy words, and to control. Nazi Germany was also the greatest thing ever, until people began to wake up
and see it for what it is. But the question is, how did so many people (which includes the present day world) get fooled so completely into believing
the opposite of what was the objective reality? Hitler was compared to Jesus, he was so great and wonderful and loving! How can someone so loving and
great in reality be the most evil and deceptive psychopath to walk the Earth? Better question is, how can we learn to SEE this deception before it is
complete and before it is too late? This requires not just a critical mind and always questioning and thinking about everything, but basic KNOWLEDGE
of objective reality, understanding of human nature, and being able to read between the lines, which includes reading between the lines of someone's
actions (not just words).
But going back to the question of aliens, having some understanding of STO (service to others) and STS (service to self) and the "modus operandi" of
both sides (government being a great example of the deceptive, entropic, STS forces) - how does anyone then have blind faith in, ANYTHING, especially
intelligences that are far beyond our own, which are capable of deception on unfathomable levels that would be infinitely harder to spot than
deception of our own governments? They can appear as the most kind and enlightened beings of love, but can be the direct OPPOSITE in reality - the
question is, once again, HOW CAN WE TELL? The devil, as they say, is in the details. Understand the CORE, (how STS works and what it is, and STO) and
you are well on your way to SEEing the unseen, when many others will be fooled.
So let me be clear, I do not "trust" anybody, and it is my understanding that anyone who trusts anyone is foolish and naive. Here is my reasoning.
It does not mean I suspect everyone of "wrongdoing" or that I am paranoid in any way, I make no assumptions about anyone's nature or intentions - I
seek to KNOW and SEE everyone as objectively as possible, without attachment or bias or wishful thinking. However, to me, "trust" means blind
acceptance that someone or something (alien, human, whatever) has your best interests at heart. Trust is an assumption, we make the assumption that
(whoever it is we trust) is ALWAYS honest to us (is anyone EVER always honest to anyone else, or even to themselves?), and will not "betray" us in
terms of doing things in THEIR best interest instead of ours (Again, how often do "best of friends" or lovers run into conflicts of interests, which
end up in fights or breaking up of friendships and relationships? Despite the wishful thinking that the friendship (or love relationship, whatever)
will last forever.
Why make such a blind assumption about anyone, when it is the same mistake that humanity has always been making and ended up being led around by their
noses by all sorts of people and beings as a result? There are a few people that I "reasonably trust", which means, I know them well enough to trust
my KNOWLEDGE of them and who they are, but only in a probabilistic, NOT ABSOLUTE, way. So I assign a high probability to their integrity, but I also
realise they are human and they WILL act in their best interests as ALL humans do since we are ALL service to self, and I also do not expect them to
always be honest with me (or themselves). There are some people that I know that ARE working towards service to others and have been all their lives,
so the probability that they WILL be honest with themselves and with others, and that they WILL act in the best interests of ALL involved is EXTREMELY
HIGH, but never absolutely 100%, ever. Of course, anyone who is not honest with him/herself cannot possibly be honest with others - if you lie to
yourself about who you are and "where you stand" in life, you're not going to suddenly tell the truth to someone else (since you already convinced
yourself that the lie is the truth, so you may THINK you are telling the truth, but only after you already lied to yourself).
It is my understanding that "wishful thinking" is the downfall of man. Wishful thinking, assumptions, belief, blind faith (all being the same
thing), is the only thing that allows humans to be controlled by deception, or to be deceived in the first place. You cannot be deceived if you do not
blindly accept anything, believe anything, or assume someone's integrity will always last. It does not mean that you cannot work with probabilities,
because in fact, probabilities is all that we truly have - everything else being wishful thinking. So I can assign a high probability that someone
will be honest, but NEVER just "trust" in any absolute way. Perhaps you also do not trust in absolute way, perhaps you do, I don't know.
But my point is, knowledge is all that matters in terms of deciding what the objective reality about anyone truly is. Anyone can trust anyone else for
any reason, and in fact, gaining someone's TRUST or LOVE is the number one way to deceive, use, manipulate, and trick people into doing your bidding
- very often it is unconscious and mechanical, many people do it not with intent to harm, but just naturally because "life" just works that way in
this world. Consider that 99% of all relationships (man-woman) are dominated by either one partner or the other, VERY rarely is it truly equal. By
dominated I mean, he/she uses the attachment/love of the other to have them do your bidding, and have the final word as a result. So it is wise to
always be critical and question everything, to always THINK about everything someone does or says critically, and try to understand OBJECTIVELY
whether there is "hidden agendas" involved, whether it is a manipulation (however subtle), and so in the end, whether that
entity/person/alien/whoever is on the UPWARD path of truth and service to others, or DOWNWARD path of LIES and service to SELF. Being able to discern
that is the most important thing we can learn to do, because once we can make this distinction, we will no longer read FALSE SIGNS like someone being
nice or telling us things that sound true and good as evidence that they are indeed what they claim, and their intentions are "pure".
Of course, there are some "aliens" (using that word losely) that are STO and some that are STS. But STS always tries to act like it is STO, and it
is only through knowledge of what is STO and STS do you detect deception, do you truly SEE when someone is a cunning manipulator, when someone is
lying. KNOWLEDGE, not wishful thinking or belief or assumption, is what allows us to advance, and to make accurate judgements about the true nature of
the universe, and true nature of those we encounter in our lives, be they human or not.
Sorry for the length of the post, but I think those things I mentioned were important enough to mention. These are my understandings at this time,
please consider them and think about them carefully, and decide for yourself whether there is truth in what I say. I am always open to being wrong, so
all comments, thoughts, etc are welcome
[edit on 10-6-2005 by lilblam]