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kenshiro2012 wrote:
Unfortunately, this thread was an attempts to utilize old photos, and old news reports in order to once again discredit the administration, the military, and ultimately the individual soldiers who are still today serving in iraq. I find this to be appaling
Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy
Yeah, like those WMD, eh? No evidence of what was claimed, not even a decent photo like the one above over which we could argue!!! The evidence that there was none proves the current administration wrong. Have they embraced or dismissed this evidence?
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
I think that if you calm down a little and read the original article again, you will find that it was presented in a fair, analytical, and balanced manner. Some images, allegations, and alleged connections to a journalist's death surfaced, and I collated and presented them here for the ATS community to do what it does best: discuss, analyze, and if possible, debunk. I think that you will find the majority of members observing and participating in this thread, who have not let their emotions get the better of them, agree with me on these points. If you choose to bicker, then that is your prerogative, but please refrain from making accusations as to my agenda. Thank you.
I think that if you calm down a little and read the original article again, you will find that it was presented in a fair, analytical, and balanced manner. Some images, allegations, and alleged connections to a journalist's death surfaced, and I collated and presented them here for the ATS community to do what it does best: discuss, analyze, and if possible, debunk. I think that you will find the majority of members observing and participating in this thread, who have not let their emotions get the better of them, agree with me on these points. If you choose to bicker, then that is your prerogative, but please refrain from making accusations as to my agenda. Thank you.
" Also dear syrian sister, you have used the issue of the american military being angered over showing the coffins in the media."
Nice find it proves again that she is wrong or should we say lying once again
It has been stated that this has been done and the example provided was vietnam. The numbers were exagerated to say yhe least. The variance of the number, those of during the war in comparison to the updated ones after the war were just a simple shuffling of numbers. Prior to the update many soldiers were tagged as missing in action, pow, etc. At the end of the war, with the release of the pow's, the numbers were adjusted to reflect the known fact.
kenshiro2012 wrote:
If you will review the title of your news submission " OP/ED: Dead Reporters and Mass Graves - Jihad Respun?" and the conclusions that your sources have come to.
1) the reported was murder by the american military.
2) The american military are dropping bodies of dead american souldiers out of black hawk to be buried in secret and in mass graves.
Those conclusions and other similar conclusions have been used in the past by others to bash the military as well soldiers individually.
the_oleneo wrote:
Well, buddy, upon my very close examination of the photos from the links you've provided, I have to come to the conclusion that these are full of BS.
Anybody can take a picture of some dead bodies removed from the graves in Iraq and stated that those are the bodies of some American soldiers "secretly" buried with some flimsy or questionable appearances, perhaps for a propaganda mean to spread lies and confusion among the US military and the Western media, at least that would be the real intent.
Some photos showed bodies in a severe state of decomposition, as if these have been in the underground for a very long time.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
So i suggest you be silent, unless you want the footage to silence you.
Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy
Vagabond, dude, I don't have a paper trail for what I am talking about and know also it would be unwise to get into a WMD debate with you.
Two of the solutions mentioned were developing robots and creating a force similar to the French Foreign Legion. While the robots thing was very sci-fi back then, more and more robots are making into the theatre of battle. What we are concerned with here however is to use of foreign nationals in a non-disclosed to the public unit of Green Card soldiers.
If they wanted to keep the lid on that particular unit, would they more likely ship the dead guys back to Mexico or wherever, and maybe get caught, or would they more likely stick them in a hole somewhere or chuck them out of Black Hawk helicopters into the river? (Somebody have a link to that story?? I remember reading it a while back....)
The full scale of the tragedy is being kept under wraps, I fear.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
As for the WMD's being moved to syria. HAH, why would we need non existant iraqi WMD's. We have had our own years and years and years ago. Proudly so! We never signed any treaty that says we can't have them. It's our right.
That's why you can't attack us, that's why you can't attack north korea. Because we actually have a way to defend ourselves.
If the US thought for a minute that iraq could have WMD's do you think they would ever have attacked? HAH, laughable.
Interesting. Can you prove that Seria has WMDs? I did not think so.
If the US thought for a minute that iraq could have WMD's do you think they would ever have attacked? HAH, laughable.
WOW that is a mouthful of BS. Hate to tell you, but we did attack Iraq that is a fact and you can take that to the bank.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Yeah, you attacked them because they had no way to defend themselves, including no WMD's.
WOW, Get it? clever boy.
[edit on 26-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]
Originally posted by shots
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Yeah, you attacked them because they had no way to defend themselves, including no WMD's.
WOW, Get it? clever boy.
[edit on 26-5-2005 by Syrian Sister]
No we attacked them based on faulty intelligence from around the world that said they had WMDs which could be used against the US had they fallen into the hands of infidels, such as you and your cronies.