hmmmm,

Iv'e never heard of the spinning method. Try it anyway.

I use the roll over method and pretend I'm falling out of bed,
this works wonders

Just try what ever makes your body feel more displaced.

I got astral dynamic's by robert bruce (the owner of that site)
its way good, pack fuill of info, and at 559 pages it's no thin book

[edit on 23-5-2005 by TrentReznor]

What I meant was, whats a good method to get to the vibrational stage?

I just need to know how to reach that stage and i will be able to roll out.

deep relaxation (really deep)

hemi-sync audio helps

energy work

hemi-sync audio eh? as of right now, it takes me quite a long time to even start to deeply relax, and by this point i am usually asleep. i think i will try the hemi-sync audio stuff...

and again, do i physically roll my body or do i imagine rolling out of myself without physically moving?! PLEASE HELP WITH THIS!!!

yes! imagine yourself rolling over without physically moving.

tip

whilst relaxing, lay on your back and arms at side with your forearms staight up.
that will prevent you from falling asleep and keeping that in between state.

What I meant was, whats a good method to get to the vibrational stage?

I just need to know how to reach that stage and i will be able to roll out.

I'm not sure what a good method is to get to the vibrational stage but I can tell you that in the last year I am at that vibrating stage a few times a week and still have not been able to get beyond it. Rolling out isn't as easy as you might think it is ... or at least it isn't for me.

Best of luck to you.

Jemison

tried spinning around fast to make the light move in a sort of circle. As I did this i felt a dizzy sensation come over me and the vibes started!

Er....

IS this a surprise??

The "smashing head against brick wall' method results in lots of psionic effects too.

Originally posted by Haliberd
What I meant was, whats a good method to get to the vibrational stage?

I just need to know how to reach that stage and i will be able to roll out.

Haliberd- try this to get the vibes: relax your whole body starting with your feet/ankles and move all the way up to your neck and make sure your facial muscles are relaxed as well. It's also a good idead to wear very loose
non-restrictive clothing or sleepwear so the best is no clothes at all.
Then do a few minutes of very deep breathing: take a deep breath through your nose and hold it for a count of 5 then slowly exhale until yoor lungs are empty. Do this for a couple minutes or so keeping your eyes closed and concentrating on your goal. If you concentrate you should hear a very faint buzzing in your ears; breath normally and concentrate on increasing the volume of the buzzing until it is very load in your ears. At this
point you will notice that your whole body is vibrating. THen just imagine yourself sitting up suddenly and voila! you are on your way.

Hope this helps. Of course garbage truck noises should be avoided
so make sure you are in a quiet place with no outside distracrtions.

Let me know how it works for you.

I've just recently gotten a couple of hemi-sync and relaxation tracks.. jus wondering if there's anything dangerous wit these and their use?

Not that I know of Watcher.....I am waiting for my hemi sync order to arrive and cant wait! I am SOOOOO excited!

lol, alright good job man...

I'm taking a little break from attemptive APing, I just have to finish a few things first, like my summer reading, then SATs/ACTs, and finally applying for college, I won't be free til november/december. SO, yea thats my main focus..

Anyways, I'm not gonna lie, I manage to have my a successful AP once due to sounds, one time for several nights, I keep hearing this hovering sound, and it has this unusually beats and rythmes, and eventually I fell dead asleep, and I woke feeling this vibration, it was intense and some rush I tell yah, anyhow, I felt myself in a sleep paralysis and then suddenly spliting, and yah I finally got out, hovered for what seemed like a few second, got too, too excited..and went back to my body...

LESSON, DON'T GET TOO EXCITED WHEN YOU VIBRATED OR HAVE YOUR OUT OF YOUR BODY, I'LL RUIN THE ASTRAL PROJECTION EXPERIENCE, STAY CALM, I LEARNED IT THE HARD WAY!!!

The knowledge of those here regarding projecting is greater than mine, but I have always found visualising your body from another point in the room to be effective. However, I find that it is not enough just to think "I am looking at my body". You have to try and visualise every little detail - as though you genuinely were outside of your body watching yourself. I usually combine this technique with trying to imagine my body becoming heavier and heavier, until it almost feels as though it will sink into the bed.

These techniques always serve to get me to at least the vibrational stage. As for the buzzing in your ears - thank God somebody else can hear it. I thought I was going nuts ... more so.

The key, though, is to find what works for you and keep practising. Also, don't be afraid to keep asking for advice in these forums. As I said, the knowledge of those who frequent these boards is far greater than mine and they are usually quite willing to help. Let us know if you make it "out"

I tried my first shot at AP yesterday...the only feeling I got was only a partial sensation of lightness and relaxation. infact, i kinda liked that feeling...

The 1st track on the hemi sync gateway cd gets some of my chakra's vibrating but I believe you need all 7 vibrating in sync before you can project & there's some I just can't open as yet.