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posted on May, 23 2005 @ 08:03 AM
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All i ask is for people to have a look at what ive wrote and give an honest opinion?
the bashing and the ridicule ive learnt to live with and come to expect.!

It was 1978, summer and around 8pm me and 3 mates had just painted our initials about 3 inches high) on the side of a pub wall called the star in east london u.k., i know its vandelism but im being honest here.
The walk home was very short maybe 10 mins or so we all lived relatively close to each other, we started to walk up the slight hill in the road with train lines running on the left and a community center on the right, the main road running left and right at the end.
Ahead of us was the main road with a high wall stright ahead as this was like a bridge because the train lines went underneath, on top of the wall there were some ( 1or 2) advertising billboards, if you got on top of the wall and looked down the train lines went directly underneath but to the left of them was a graveyard, to the left of the graveyard were shops and the backs of houses.
well as we started the walk up towards the main road we were looking straight ahead over the billboards when we all noticed two very bright and what i can only say from my experience as a kid 'large' lights just what seemd to be just standing mid air over the billboards/graveyard/trainlines, they were still a distance away from us and again as a kid could not really give any sort of distance or height or even size to them, but we all thought 'bloody hell what are they? aint they big? that type of thing.
the next thing, as kids, was to have a better look and our idea was to run up to the main road ,jump on the wall over the train lines and getter better look, at what we didnt know?
We all started to run towards the main road and the wall, before we got to the top something strange happened! a third light this one not nearly as big as the other 2 slowly began to appear as if comming from the behind the billboards around the graveyard/trainlines would be, slowly rising up to the other 2 as if to meet it, then when all 3 of the lights were together (by this i mean withing a close distance to each other) they just went off , not speeding , not overly slow, but just normal......end of !!!!

It had us all talking about it for days on end , and the usual kid stuff come out '''oh the ufo's are nicking bodies from the graveyard' all that and more , but none of us had a clue what we had seen (if anything).
I know if i saw the same thing today my first reaction would be oh its planes from London City Airport, but in 1978 it wasnt built, could it have been commercial helicopters? air-ambulance? were they about then? i really dont know.

My parents decide to move to the coast i decide to move into my nans, nothing happens for many yrs, and decide that my life is going nowhere and decide to go to my parents and help them in their business on the coast, my sister is living with them also and her boyfriend, i share a room with him and on many occassions he tells me in the morning, what was going on with you last night you were fighting someone ''in your sleep'', i had many sratches on my body and face , these were by no means deep and very bad they were more like 'cat scratches', which i put down (at the time) to a bracelet that i wore, which was very small and thin.
nothing more was thought about it ....until....

Fast forward ourselves to around 1995/6 im now married with children and have 3 reasonably succesfull businesses, still living in east london/essex and only about 4 or so miles from where i was in '78, got a comfortable life , everything is ok.
i wake up one morning and immediatly ask my wife to check the back of my head/neck.
why she asks? and i tell her, she falls abouts in fits of laughter.
Now i am 100% sure that i have been abducted during my sleep, she is 100% sure that i have had a very bad but realistic dream, maybe because my dreams are very real at times i have very complicated dreams (very rare is it that i have nightmares, even to this day), so as you can imagine when friends and family find out it becomes a big thing and the ideal thing to say at a get together , bring up about when you were abducted, you know the little green men hahahahaha.
at first this used to really annoy me but at no time was i ever embarrased about it and i would openly talk to anyone that wanted to know, but i would never try and initiate the subject.

So i will tell you about the dream/abuction.
i will call it a dream for the sake of it, in the dream im being led on a white floor with a person/being either side of me , my face is towards the floor, i cannot look up but im not being forced to look down , nothing is being said to me im not hearing things in my head etc (telepathy).
We go into what i can only describe as another room? which has loads of people (humans) sitting down at desks with for want of a better word laptops in front of them, again looking towards the floor, and not being forced to look there , but this time as we pass some of the people i move my eyes to try to look at them i cannot see their faces yet only the back of their heads.
(you know when you were at school and you had all the desks laid out in rows, and the teacher would walk up and down , thats how it was ), i was being walked through the rows aand as i got to each of the people sitting there if i looked at the laptops screen i would see their faces (ie mirror like), i knew some of them but didnt if you know what i mean the face was of someone i know but could not put a name to it, there was no talking or anything like that.
Its hard to describe the feeling i had at this time and the sense of the surroundings but if you imagine the camcorder and you are looking through the lens , the camcorder is pointing towards the floor with your eye on it , you are aware of everything else around you but are focused on whats going through the lens.

Again being led past the rows of desks and people iam led (but not forced in any way) towards a light in the middle of a room (im not very good at describing this but i have drawings if anyone is interested). the light is lighting up this very long mechanical arm susspended from above, on the bottom of the arm is a flat surface there are two people/beings with their backs to me sitting around the flat surface.
As i get nearer to them it is if im being given the 'o.k.' to look up and i see what looks like a group of people/beings sitting around a semi circle of plastic steps/seats (i say plastic ,because whatever it is that they are sitting on is see-thru and looks plastic), i have a sense that the higher up in the seating you are the more 'powerful' you are , this is only what is going through my mind im not being told this, there are about five rows of seats either side and about 20 people/beings each side.
I cannot make out what they look like but i know that they are there, but for some reason ,again making up my own mind is that they look human but a very light brown/caramel colour, the best way i can describe it it, if you remember planet of the apes there was one ape in there who had a white beard an older one , he was the same colour and for some reason i just cannot get this colour out of my head.
Now i know that this is sounding very far fetched and film like but im really describing something that has a major effect on me and my life, so please bear with me .....
Im led to the flat surface and put on it , God its shiney very shiney like metal, i have a robe (which im only now aware of wearing ) being taken off of me , and told to lay down on the flat surface (this time im told but its not spoken to me ), the shiney metal like surface is not cold at all , i lay on my front , and my face goes into what i will describe as a massage table with a hole to fit your head into.
I am aware of the two people/beigns behind who are gently hold my head in place, although im not trying to get out of it, it is if im totaly co-operating and dont feel any ill-feeling at all.
Im then aware of an awfull sound , God its horrible, think to myself i wish they would pick the chairs up insted of scrapping them along?
What i think is all the people sitting by their desks are scrapping their chairs along a wooden floor to get a better look,is in fact the sound of a drill that is going into the back of my head, but its a horrible sound , there is no pain what-so-ever, there is only one smell that has stuck with me it is similar to a hospital smell the cleanleness, the sharpeness of everything, do you know what i mean?
now in my mind i know what is going on , i want to get up and try to lift my head but am forced back down , but its not a hard force just a gently one its from one of the two people/beings behind me .
BANG ...i wake up and thats where we started.

As ive said before i had a good life , comfortable, i was so sure that i was abducted that i even went as far to open a shop, dealing in UFO AND Alien merchandise, now beileve me this was not my normal business stratedgy.
A) i didnt know anything about this subject.
B) it wasnt really something that as a business was going to fly of the handle and make me a millionaire.
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C)there was and still is a stigma attached to owners of these type of businesses, (the old ..oh here comes the trekies/aliens/MIB) syndrome, my wife was not at all happy with it ,
so i lied to her and told her it was a loan for a freind to start his shop up and i was a silent partner...huh i dont think she believed me, but i had the money , and we didnt want for anything, so there i went.....

During the time i had the shop ..yes i was obssesed, i was on a crusade , i wanted to find out ...was it a dream ? was it real?
i had three other experiences or dreams whatever you like to call them

The first was just a very short memory of being at the front of a craft (bloody hell this sounds so stupid) and being with someone dont know who ,dont know if they were human? but being able to look out of the window? at the front as we were going along, we both of us are aware of the jets that are whizzing past us (they are military jets) i look out of the window and as if this jet has just stopped in mid air i look right into the eyes of the pilot, he has a breathing apparatus on covering all but his eyes, i remember thinking to myself he looks like a pig not because he was ugly but because the breathing apparatus was turned up like a pigs nose, this was just my thought at that time ...i looked straight into his eyes and his eyes were so wide and as if in disbelife at something not at the fact the he was looking at a craft but disbelief in seeing me standing there , like i shouldnt be there? thats what is seemed like?
i immediatly said to the other person/being they can see us! and as is he said to me (but not spoken) press that a button, i dont know what it looked like or what it felt like but i pushed it and the words ''not now they cant'' were said by him/it.
BANG ...i wake up
the second time was the only time i have every been able to say i saw an 'alien' mmm yeah i know what you are all thinking, 'a grey' just sitting on the end of my bed just as if to say you comming?, nothing was said nothing was done, very dream like i know, just strange.

The third time, again a short memory of a dream or what i dunno,
But i remember a very loud buzzing noise getting louder and louder im lying in what i will call a 'pod' for want of a better word its the purest white you can imagine, i say 'pod' because it was like i was incased in something the shape was like a big jet engine on the side of a plane, that type of shape.
the noise was getting louder i was in the pod with someone or something i dont and for some reason i wasnt happy about the whole situation.
The last thing i remember is trying to wriggle free from something and shout out ''''IF THIS IS WHAT YOURE GOING TO DO ..I DONT WANT TO COME ANYMORE'''....!!
BANG...i wake up ....this was the last time ive ever had any type of 'dream' like that!

Well as you can imagine the shop didnt do very well and after a year and a half i closed it down, my other businesses were still doing well but had suffered some what due to my obssesion with the shop, and it was now time to get things back on track.

Fast forward a few yrs ive lost my businesses and doing a few bits and peices and decide to get a job with a friend one morning at work i dont feel well, i pass out and wake up later that day in THE ROYAL LONDON HOSPTAL it seems i have had suffered an epileptic fit.
I have never had this before and from what the doctors have told me evryone is allowed one epileptic fit in their life , maybe due to stress or shock, so no more was thought about it, i was discharged from RLH a couple of days later and was going to a hospital nearer my home for follow-ups.
I went there as arranged on a few occassions to have some tests done, one of these tests showed i was a heavy drinker???? WTF i dont drink at all, i mean that!! i smoke heavily but DO NOT DRINK?,
So we was not getting anywhere with finding the cause to the seizure (fit) so they decided i should go for an MRI brain scan at St Barts in london.
I went there had the scan and all was done but was till awaiting the results from the scan this went on for ages , months, then one day i came home from work and my wife's in tears, she says' the hospital have called you have to go back to the RLH tommorow they want to see you?''
The doctor at my hospital where i had my follow-ups had rung our house to tell her this but he has also told her that i have a brain tumor, now come on i would have told my wife myself anyway but surely i should be the first to know ...? shouldnt i?
Now as you can imagine within that split second i have the world on my shoulders , all sorts of things are going through my mind....why do they want to see me so quick? why was i not told first? why had my hospital rung up and not the RLH? why? why ?
am i going to die? F***k this was bad!!!
My wife and i get to the RLH at 9.00 the next day and the nurse or specialist explains all to us ....pheeeeewwww its not as bad as i think... yeah i still have a tumor but it isnt cancerous, the reason i was to be seen so quickly was the epilepsy surgery only operated on that day (i dont mean for an operation), so after a long talk with the neurologist and the specialist they decide the best course of action is to leave it , i have only had one fit , nothing prior, its not made my quality of life go down at all, and the epilepsy is being caused by the tumor , so they can control the epilepsy with tablets? job done?

This was four yrs ago... i have twice yearly MRI scans , the tumor hasnt grown and there is no bruising around it so all is ok. i have regular check ups at the RLH with my epilepsy specialist, the tablets dont work , im constantly on different tablets, i havent had a major fit like the main one , but i do get what they call partial seizures, this effects people differently, with me its the weirdest feeling imaginable, like a drunkness and de-javou feeling all rolled into one, my speech goes very slurred, and i become very unstable, i dont go into a full blown seizure like 'the shakes etc'.
for the next day or so im left with a pounding headache like feeling but it isnt a headache (we all have headaches and know what they are) this isnt the same, but knowing what ive got the first time this happened i contacted the RLH and they said oh its ok its just a natural reaction to the partial seizure...goood...
The RLH now feel that surgery to remove the tumor is an option mainly because its is afecting my life more , the partial seizures are becomming more frequent , but the tumor itself has not changed in any way.
Now there are a few things i have left out mainly to protect my identity just incase there was someone on here who could put 2 plus 2 together and hey presto.
I guess what im really looking for is an answere?
From who...i dont know?
Am i reading more into this than i should?
Am i adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5?.
just one other thing....the doctor that told my wife i have never heard from again and after numourous calls and letters to find this doctor ..to no avail, this is something that has just bothered me , im not saying that there was anything sinister in this but it just really annoyed me that he told someone not me over the phone?
i would like to hear your thoughts on this subject, if anyone wants.

(mod edit to remove caps from title)

[edit on 24-5-2005 by pantha]




posted on May, 23 2005 @ 03:44 PM
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spymaster

What I think you need to know is that a high percentage of the population of humans, 40 to 42 percent, have some kind of a connection to alien life and some amount of alien contact, and that most of these people never become aware of it on a conscious level. But when they do become aware of it, the encounters almost always seem like dreams. Not all who have contact progress into a physical working relationship, but most continue a course of meetings through life on other levels of consciousness.

The particular alien visitors of each human who has contact keep tabs on their own. They are interested in our lives and welfare and give us periodic medical exams. They cannot always interfere with anything wrong with us, but they remain interested, even if we do not participate in a course of any program with them.

Many, many more people have alien contact, then the number of people who have brain tumors or epilepsy. I hope that you do not think the aliens gave you your medical problems. I know that many people assume this about their own alien contact and illnesses.

From the way you describe the events, it sounds to me like you have alien contact and that you have the natural ability to communicate with alien life. If so, then you have always has this relationship- not just at the instances you are aware of- and you always will.

The best way for you to find out about the aliens and what your memories are about is to ask the aliens. Many people will tell you many different things, but even if anybody else is right, the only way you can really know for sure for yourself is to hear from the aliens. There is a great deal of conflicting disinformation that is all taken as common beliefs in the alien/ufo circles, so try to learn whatever you can from the aliens and hold that, however little, foremost above anything anybody else says.

You already know how to communicate, just by thinking. Just be clear and direct, and ask them exactly what you want to know the most. Then watch for answers which will come probably very much the same way you recall your previous encounters. Write down anything you recall from your "dreams" in detail as soon as you recall it, however trivial or unrelated it may seem.

I know from my own experience that there are legitimate reasons the alien races can't tell us everything. For one thing, many involve advanced concepts that are beyond our understanding. For another thing, the answers they give us may mean something different to us in our minds. For another, there is private or jurisdiction information humans are not allowed to have/or the aliens are not allowed to give us. But I think the questions you probably want to ask most about your encounters with them, they could answer for you.

If you don't get answers to what you want to know, try something more simple, or ask for reassurance, or ask them something personal about themselves. Once you open a friendly dialog, your natural understanding of them will continue to grow, and you may realize many answers on your own. Keep your mind clear by avoiding too much various media on the subject. The visiting races are "nothing" like the popular beliefs.



posted on May, 23 2005 @ 05:48 PM
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40 to 42%, thats quite a precise figure that EarthSister.

May I ask where you got that figure from ??

The present world population stands at 6,446,131,400 so even at the lower 40% that is a staggeringly high number of people who are being abducted/monitored/checked out call it what you will.

In fact its TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED MILLION people EVERY YEAR.

Even if these people are only visited once a year each, well thats over SEVEN MILLION people a day, day in day out who have some sort of contact.

Thats an awful lot of aliens needed, the skies are crowded indeed.

No wonder there is a "Roswell" every 25 or so years with all these abductions going on.

We surely need to do something about this.

The odd cow being mutilated or the odd anal probe inserted is one thing but SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE a day.

Cant you have a word with them during your next Inter Galatic Conference and ask them for a moratorium.

Im sure they too will agree that SEVEN MILLION a day is a tad on the high side.



posted on May, 23 2005 @ 06:17 PM
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Not to totally discount the theory that you have been abducted, but as an alternative you might consider that your dreams were just that. Check out this site about dream interpretation.

I found the nightmare section, interesting.....some folks believe that your own mind has the ability to sense a serious health problem and also has the ability to bring it to your 'conscious' attention through dreams that are extreme enough to be easily remembered. Did the area that the aliens 'drilled' corespond to the actual area of the tumor?

What ever you decide....warning dreams or alien tests, I hope you are returned to good health soon! Good luck.



posted on May, 23 2005 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by JayKew
40 to 42%, thats quite a precise figure that EarthSister.

May I ask where you got that figure from ??


I got that figure from the head of the organization of the 218 alien races that are visiting Earth. He is an alien being, of course, and of the longest evolved race that visits Earth at over 6 billion years.


Im sure they too will agree that SEVEN MILLION a day is a tad on the high side.


From what I understand from alien life and witness of those who have the opportunity to work with alien life, not all of the 40 to 42 percent have ongoing encounters. In fact, most refuse alien contact. Few humans progress to frequent, advanced, comprehensive contact. But even those who accept contact and advance don't get to know everything.

Ten percent of the 40 to 42 percent are directly of alien spirit, meaning they were alive on another world before, in another race in a previous life. The rest of the 40 to 42 percent are descendents of the 10 percent.

Let's stay on topic now, ok?








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posted on May, 24 2005 @ 03:06 AM
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Thank you EarthSister at least unlike Sleeper you are prepared to answer simplistic questions.

And now that you are giving out figures we can start to do the maths.

Maybe you can tell us how many daily abductions there are if my calculation of seven million is a little high.

Its then quite easy to extrapolate a very accurate numerical alien presence on Earth.

Sleeper also walked away from my questions about hs social/commercial infrastructure problems when he is randomly taken away for periods in excess of one month and walking away from simplistic questions always creates doubts in the veracity of peoples statements wouldnt you say.

Perhaps you , if you get time, could tell us how your daily life is affected when you have these five or six week jaunts to other galaxies.

You also do have a business to look after, a family to care for and friends to socialise with.

It must get very tricky for you.

Sleeper tells us all that abductions and alien visitations are very scary, dark and gothic sort of events and that aliens are very nasty people indeed.

Yet you tell us that they are wondrous people people, a joy to be amongst.

Please tell us all that your version of Living with the Alien is the real deal and that Sleeper is just having a bit of fun with us.

To be honest I dont much want to be part of Sleepers world.

Anyway, if Sleepers Way is the way to go Im really not too concerned now because you say that random abductions are no longer de rigueur, in fact you state that we dont have to be abducted nowadays if we dont want to.

Phew, thats a relief, its never really sat nicely with me that people can just sort of do these things to me and my body at the drop of an anal probe.

Would it suffice for me to pin a little note to my headboard ( rather like the letters our kids do for Santa) saying "No abduction today please" ?

Thank you very much for reading this and ..... take care.

[edit on 24-5-2005 by JayKew]



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 03:30 AM
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spymaster:

Why do you think your tumor is related to your abductions? I did not read you giving any real correlations concerning it. Do you think the tumor is causing these abduction dream scenarios? Or are you thinking that when the hole was drilled into your neck in the abduction dream that the tumor was somehow placed into it?

If the abductions were real, then apparently the words you shouted in the final abduction actually did affect an end to them. Sounds like you were a voluntary abductee given what you typed. Quite interesting that you mentioned seeing a frightened earthly military pilot looking at you while being onboard a UFO. I imagine the secrecy of the subject would leave pilots shocked upon seeing any UFOs and their occupants.

Have you given any thought to hypnotic regression therapy to try to get anything more out of those dreams? If I was of the opinion that the dreams were actual real events, I would most likely do everything I could to extract from my head the rest of the events that appear to be hidden from memory. I would absolutely try to understand why I would be a volunteer to such paranormal events and find out why I wanted to quit being a volunteer.



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by JayKew
Thank you EarthSister at least unlike Sleeper you are prepared to answer simplistic questions.

And now that you are giving out figures we can start to do the maths.

Maybe you can tell us how many daily abductions there are if my calculation of seven million is a little high.

Its then quite easy to extrapolate a very accurate numerical alien presence on Earth.

Sleeper also walked away from my questions about hs social/commercial infrastructure problems when he is randomly taken away for periods in excess of one month and walking away from simplistic questions always creates doubts in the veracity of peoples statements wouldnt you say.

Perhaps you , if you get time, could tell us how your daily life is affected when you have these five or six week jaunts to other galaxies.

You also do have a business to look after, a family to care for and friends to socialise with.

It must get very tricky for you.

Sleeper tells us all that abductions and alien visitations are very scary, dark and gothic sort of events and that aliens are very nasty people indeed.

Yet you tell us that they are wondrous people people, a joy to be amongst.

Please tell us all that your version of Living with the Alien is the real deal and that Sleeper is just having a bit of fun with us.

To be honest I dont much want to be part of Sleepers world.

Anyway, if Sleepers Way is the way to go Im really not too concerned now because you say that random abductions are no longer de rigueur, in fact you state that we dont have to be abducted nowadays if we dont want to.

Phew, thats a relief, its never really sat nicely with me that people can just sort of do these things to me and my body at the drop of an anal probe.

Would it suffice for me to pin a little note to my headboard ( rather like the letters our kids do for Santa) saying "No abduction today please" ?

Thank you very much for reading this and ..... take care.

[edit on 24-5-2005 by JayKew]


JayKew

Your questions to me do not belong in this thread. Besides, you have little respect for this subject or the people involved in it. You only want to make trouble here, and have been trying to bait certain members against others for a while now, only to provoke bad feelings and personal defense between them so you can watch them fight it out. Clearly, you get such a kick out of laughing at scoffing at certain people that you can't stop doing it. You ask a question, any question, just so you can hear the answer like another punch line.

Those who you treat this way just don't want to continue to engage in your degrading style of discussion.



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 11:38 AM
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Earthsister,

Out of the alien races which is more prone to abduct people?I feel abduct is the wrong word to use for it.It makes it sound so against ones will.I know that this is in our spiritual contract before our soul journey to earth.We make it before hand but this doesn't mean we can't speed up the process.I think its the ones that are on a higher vibration/frequency tend to get visited more frequently.Due to the fact its easier for them to resonate with the spiritual realm.They are more open to accepting truth.



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by menguard
Earthsister,

Out of the alien races which is more prone to abduct people?I feel abduct is the wrong word to use for it.It makes it sound so against ones will.I know that this is in our spiritual contract before our soul journey to earth.We make it before hand but this doesn't mean we can't speed up the process.I think its the ones that are on a higher vibration/frequency tend to get visited more frequently.Due to the fact its easier for them to resonate with the spiritual realm.They are more open to accepting truth.


menguard,

I will try to explain "abduction" in some of the simple way I understand it. Of course a complete answer is far more dynamic and way beyond what I know, but I am certain of the things I witness and am told about it by my alien contacts.

First, any alien contact may seem like abduction to any human, especially when the human is just meeting the aliens, and especially when he has sucked up lots of popular beliefs and horror stories from the ufo groups and media. It takes some time and communication and willingness to overcome the initial difficulties, including our natural instinctual fear of the unknown. It also takes some support from other humans, some of our family and friends, and hopefully other alien experiencers who actually know what they are talking about and have progressed somewhat themselves.

The alien beings are scary looking, and the way they do things is "off the map" of anything we could imagine as normal. Their technologies, to witness them, could "blow our minds." Often, the way we recall bits and pieces of encounters makes us imagine what else we don't remember, so we fill in those blanks with what some professional of something else says about it. It is a sad truth also that many of the people who claim to have personal experiences with alien life are outright lying, but vehemently defend their stories. Also many people who have had alien contact go on in their anxiety to embellish their stories anyway and choose to follow the paths of popular beliefs.

The exact same way that so many humans who have never had any kind of personal experience with alien life will immediately assume that alien races abduct humans, even the humans who HAVE an alien experience or a few will assume it is abduction. Even if a human has an easy, friendly experience, he will still be lead to think by others that the aliens were tricking him, or that it was not an alien. Many people have adopted the view that there are "good" aliens and "bad" aliens in their own minds for the same purpose.

No matter what the aliens say, it is very difficult for a human to trust the aliens, and once they start looking into all the things people say and think about them, it gets even harder. For most who have contact, their experiences have to stop due to stress and lack of progress. Few move onto progressive or advanced contact with any of the races. This is starting to change now, though.

That all said- of the 218 races that visit Earth now, a few of them used to actually "abduct" particular humans. Abduct means taking a person against their will, and it also means taking a person who they are not authorized to try to approach or contact, or using them for anything that is not allowed by established Universal laws. A race is only allowed to contact their own related humans. After contact is established and progressing, a human may meet other races who their own related race works closely with.

In 1990 when my husband and I were formally introduced to our contacts and their organization at Earth, there were 170 visiting. Thirty of them were working together to finish uniting all the visiting races, and the rest were working alone or with 2, or 3 or 4 races together. There were still a few races using humans in inappropriate ways which amounted to "abduction" although this contact was not always abusive to the humans. That is a very important point in understanding the progression of the organization and its function.

There were two races who humans called "The Grays" (or Greys) visiting Earth then, and both were contacting particular willing humans, and abducting particular unwilling humans, using them to create their respective hybrid races with themselves and their particular humans. However, all of the visiting races had ongoing contact with their own humans. The Grays got the press the most because their work with humans was quite physical and on a schedule, so more humans who had contact with them were becoming aware of them, than most other humans who had contact with the other races.

The Grays were scrambling rather desperately to rush as many of their humans along in their hybrid programs as possible before they would no longer be able to use humans this way. They were not always as careful as they should be with their humans. More people were recalling these encounters, and the stories were horrible and to some great degree true, but not all true.

At some point before my knowledge of it, the US Govt and other leading govts, I don't know which, saw this as an opportunity and together made trade agreements with both races of The Grays. The trade was human abductions for advanced technologies. The Grays were not willing to make agreements with the govts or to give them any powerful or dangerous technologies that govts wanted, but they were desperate for human contact to create hybrids, so they stalled the govts with harmless technologies as they rushed ahead with their hybrid programs. The govts knew of the existence and presence of other races also, but not by any detail or how many, and they were not concerned at that time with them or with their human contacts. It was mostly The Grays and their human contacts who were in danger of govt harassment. The rest of the stories about others were not even understood or believed by govt.

The govts launched a huge, horrendous public disinformation campaign against The Grays, against belief in alien races, and against trust in alien life or in any human who claimed to have alien contact. This was to stop any human from befriending any alien life so the govt could hide its own crimes and secretly force the aliens into some kind of submission to them. This campaign centered on and targeted the races that the govts wanted to control, The Grays, but affected the public's perception of all races. The particular humans who worked with or were abducted by either race of The Grays, as they were discovered, were tracked, harassed and abducted by govt, for the purpose of gaining their personal knowledge of these aliens and blackmailing these aliens into being under govt control.

In the mean time, the organization of visiting races, the group of 30 worlds organizing it, was inviting all of the races visiting Earth into the organization. The Grays were given an ultimatum to end the hybrid programs and any abuse of humans, or be banished from visiting Earth, and given a time period to comply. The organization also offered The Grays what they needed so desperately without the misuse of humans to get it. The process of breaking off control by govt took The Grays some time, as well as the ending of their hybrid programs. One of the races of The Grays complied and the other did not/ could not and was dismissed permanently from visiting Earth. I am told by my alien contacts that a few other races were also dismissed at that time, some for randomly abducting humans just to steal genetic material, but mostly because they just did not have any real business or affiliation with our planet or race. Also, since 1990, more of our neighboring races have begun to visit Earth, bringing the total number to 218.

As of April 2000, all of the races visiting Earth are organized into one working unit under the guidance of the most advanced of the races visiting. The organization is run by the alien races for the alien races. Every world of intelligent life has an organization of its visiting races. Ours was only just recently completed, but right on time for our point in our evolution.

Many races somewhat resemble the common description of The Grays, and people who see many various races assume they are The Grays just because of all the stories and media. No abductions of any humans by any alien race is happening any longer. All contact, still as scary as it may seem to us at first, is appropriate and consensual. The Grays belong here just as any of the other visiting races and they are staying.

You are right that as souls before life we know it if we are going to be part of this when we get here, but we all know things like that by soul, whatever they are. We assume the risks that will come with our future and hope to make the best of it and choose to take it on. But once here, as we are now only physically human and only so limited in any awareness of "anything" our spirits are doing, we do not find ourselves so willing by body as we are by spirit.

Evolutionally, it takes a long time to change things, and over many generations. It can only go as well or fast as we can make it go. All the other races know each other and help each other move forward. But some people on Earth don't want the changes and will stall progress at all costs for as long as possible.

People who have alien contact and WANT to work progressively with the aliens, have more contact. The humans who have the most natural ability to perceive spirit, communicate telepathically, and travel out of body while retaining awareness apart from their bodies, physically recall the most out of their encounters and work with alien life.

Wanting to work with alien life is a little like wanting to go to war. You don't go there to embrace all the difficulties. You go there for a cause, to work to make changes DESPITE all the difficulties, and to help END those difficulties. Most who have the opportunity don't take it, or can't take it. Anyway, once you get to know the aliens, it's not so bad-- and most of the difficulties you have to face come from other humans.



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 06:27 PM
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EarthSister,

I really think people don't know how powerful we are.Our capabilities as light beings is off the chart.We can defy our third dimension reality like a cakewalk."This physical shell isn't a tragedy but a blessing to rise up to our full capabilities."Those who shall rise will create a domino affect,that will raise everybodies vibration/frequency to a new level of being.Earth as we know it will be renewed to a new vibration/frequency.This being the love vibration.With this new vibration/frequency ignorance will be a thing of the past.Hopefully, enough people raise their awareness to know that what affects us down here affects them up there."We are all connected,"you are only as strong as your weakest link."So it is beneficial for everyone to know our otherselves.To know that we can defy what logic says no, due to the physical description of the world we were taught."We are spirits encased in a shell so to speak."

[edit on 24-5-2005 by menguard]

[edit on 24-5-2005 by menguard]




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