Why do some people feel the need to post outright lies about Masons and Masonry?, page 47

reply to post by exjobie

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I"ve always researched the evidence given by anti-Masons and usually its bogus. And why is it a bad thing for us to defend an organization we belong to, but okay for people to defame?

Maybe I missed it, but what deception is there? I do not know enough about the Jobies, but I'll ask my girlfriend as she was in it and knows a lot about it. I will say I have seen the initiation ritual and if you were a Jobie you would know well why its called Job's Daughters.

IMO, you take things way too literally. I can't tell if its zealotry or what, but I'm sorry you left the Jobies and didn't have a good experience.

reply to post by exjobie

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Are you saying the Testament of Job is evil or bad? What is your end state?

reply to post by exjobie

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You have not answered my questions and until you do, I will not reply to your information.

reply to post by KSigMason

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it is not importaint if the testament of job is evil. you are missing the point entirely. the point is that it is contradicting to the teachings of the Bible, and the members are lead to believe that the order is based on Biblical principals. the "magic" involved in the testament of job is forbidden by God in the Bible. the official history is that the order is based off of the book of job in the Bible. i find it odd that the order has more in common with the testament of job which contradicts the Biblical teachings. The very symbolism that ties iojd (jdi) to the testament of job relates to the ways in which God's comandments were violated Biblicaly speaking. i find it damaging to practice rituals based on Biblical restricted practices, sold under the veil of a Biblical basis.

i have come to feel personaly that the testament of job is evil. i hope that is what you were looking for me to say. but the reason i have come to this conclusion is that if the testament of job were good, why not base the order openly from this text?

reply to post by exjobie

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Welcome to the world of non sequitur arguments.

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