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Why do some people feel the need to post outright lies about Masons and Masonry?

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posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 04:59 PM
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LIELIE

LIESLIES


MASON ARE EVIL SO IS MARYLIN!




posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 05:17 PM
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A lie to you might mean the true story to me if i really belive it senrak.
A honest answer senrak why did you join here to read all the things you clame are lies i'm not sayng that all the posts are anti masonic .
If the posts with anti masonic material bothers you why do you post in them,just leave them alone as i would do, if i dont like something i dont read it if i dont like some sort of food i dont eat it i dont like the 5 aclock news so i dont wach it too much violence.
Why do you read and post in posts that you clame are lies just live them alone and call us insane if it's u'r opinion.



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
And why in the world would axeman try to say that satan is not lucifer
probaly he agrees with the book misteries of magic has i cant picture it any other way.

Well axe man do you agree on what this book has to say?


One word: Milton.

When you figure out why that's the word, then we can talk about the Lucifer/Satan thing.



Originally posted by crusader
Well taht logic, is so illiogical, all I can do is sigh!.... Jeez.... You all are such in Denial, no information is forthcoming in your answers , how sad!


And Crusader, your attempts to incite... erm... well, I'm not quite sure what it is you are trying to do, but you're doing it poorly. You say we are providing no information, and if you believe that, then I say you should get Hooked on Phonics, because this forum is CHOCK FULL of information regarding Masons and Masonry. It's all there for you to read, if you choose to. All the issues you are bringing up have been covered here ad nauseum.

"...High Court..."




posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 05:37 PM
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Why has this thread got to page 29 and 550+ replies is what I want to know. No disrespect ....but daymn



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
A lie to you might mean the true story to me if i really belive it senrak.


No. A lie is a lie, whether you BELIEVE it or not. Believing it doesn't make it truth for heaven's sake.



A honest answer senrak why did you join here to read all the things you clame are lies i'm not sayng that all the posts are anti masonic .


I joined here because I wanted to.



If the posts with anti masonic material bothers you why do you post in them,just leave them alone as i would do,


Just leave them alone? So MORE lies can be spread? No thanks.



if i dont like something i dont read it if i dont like some sort of food i dont eat it i dont like the 5 aclock news so i dont wach it too much violence.


What ever works for you. That's YOUR business. What works for me is MY business. K?



Why do you read and post in posts that you clame are lies just live them alone and call us insane if it's u'r opinion.


No. I'll continue to post. Thank you. As a member here I can do that. So can you. If my posts bother you...DON'T read them.



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by senrak

Originally posted by pepsi78
A lie to you might mean the true story to me if i really belive it senrak.


No. A lie is a lie, whether you BELIEVE it or not. Believing it doesn't make it truth for heaven's sake.



A honest answer senrak why did you join here to read all the things you clame are lies i'm not sayng that all the posts are anti masonic .


I joined here because I wanted to.



If the posts with anti masonic material bothers you why do you post in them,just leave them alone as i would do,


Just leave them alone? So MORE lies can be spread? No thanks.



if i dont like something i dont read it if i dont like some sort of food i dont eat it i dont like the 5 aclock news so i dont wach it too much violence.


What ever works for you. That's YOUR business. What works for me is MY business. K?



Why do you read and post in posts that you clame are lies just live them alone and call us insane if it's u'r opinion.


No. I'll continue to post. Thank you. As a member here I can do that. So can you. If my posts bother you...DON'T read them.



u'r twisting my words , you say it's a lie and i have no way of knowing if it's a lie, if i will find it to be a lie i will have the same opinion has you if not i will sustain my opinion that i curently have.

And now i want a honest answer
Is this book a masonic teaching is it made by masons?
The book is The Mysteries of Magic
i debated on it but tell me is it or not?

[edit on 28-10-2005 by pepsi78]



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by magnito_student
Why has this thread got to page 29 and 550+ replies is what I want to know. No disrespect ....but daymn


I dunno dude, honestly. But I guess it's better than having 29 one-page threads...



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
And now i want a honest answer
Is this book a masonic teaching is it made by masons?
The book is The Mysteries of Magic
i debated on it but tell me is it or not?


I can't tell by the title alone.

Who is the author?

Is the author a Mason?

Is the PUBLISHER a Masonic Grand Lodge or Supreme Council or other governing Masonic body?



[edit on 28-10-2005 by senrak]



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by senrak

Originally posted by pepsi78
And now i want a honest answer
Is this book a masonic teaching is it made by masons?
The book is The Mysteries of Magic
i debated on it but tell me is it or not?


I can't tell by the title alone.

Who is the author?

Is the author a Mason?

Is the PUBLISHER a Masonic Grand Lodge or Supreme Council or other governing Masonic body?



[edit on 28-10-2005 by senrak]


it was writen by Eliphas Levi



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
Is this book a masonic teaching is it made by masons?

The book is The Mysteries of Magic

it was writen by Eliphas Levi


Ah! Then the answer is "No" It is NOT "a Masonic teaching"

I would venture that the vast majority of Masons have never even heard the name (of the book OR the author)

You see, we have no "Dogma" per se (despite Pike's book with that word in it's title)

Many Masons voice (or print) their opinions of the teachings of Masonry but no one man (or body of men) speaks for the whole of Masonry.

That's the most difficult thing for a non-Mason to understand. The teachings of Masonry are found in the HEART of the individual Mason...not on the pages of a book.



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by senrak
The teachings of Masonry are found in the HEART of the individual Mason...not on the pages of a book.


Very succinctly put, Brother.

I think that is the one concept that people have the most trouble with regarding Masonry. Why, I don't understand; almost every Masonic book I have read says the same thing, but do people pay attention? Noooooooo, they'd rather cruise to anti-Mason sites and believe the ridiculousness that is on parade daily in such places.




posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by The Axeman
Very succinctly put, Brother.


Thank you.




I think that is the one concept that people have the most trouble with regarding Masonry. Why, I don't understand; almost every Masonic book I have read says the same thing, but do people pay attention? Noooooooo, they'd rather cruise to anti-Mason sites and believe the ridiculousness that is on parade daily in such places.


I think the long and short of it is, these people have made up their minds already and do not want to be confused with the facts or the truth.

That "High Court" that whats-his-head mentioned is a prime example.

In THEIR mind, we're on trial, when there have been no charges preferred...just more of the same old BS and unfounded accusations.

[shrug]



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by magnito_student
Why has this thread got to page 29 and 550+ replies is what I want to know. No disrespect ....but daymn


beacuse masons love to spam, and anti mason love to bite on the bait!



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by NeonHelmet
beacuse masons love to spam, and anti mason love to bite on the bait!


Funny...I thought it was QUITE the other way around.

What about NeonHelmet? Does he/she like to CONTRIBUTE or just troll?



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 07:25 PM
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STOP with the accusations and insults...NOW! Any more and the hammer will be used.



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 07:34 PM
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okie, mybad! it was humour and i dont think senrak took it any other way, i atleast took his reply as humour, but i will stop and leave this thread!



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 08:21 PM
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Well axeman I have read and researched alot, and what i came up with was mountains of dirt, and piling evidence sjky high about freemasonry, that you all seem to know about but refuse to acknowledge it. Oh boy.. Anyway, i have known a couple of freemasons, for example, my great grandfather, my foolish cousin, as well as my best friend, who has used Masonry to get a fortune, to the tune of $500 million US dollars. oh by the way he uses his masonic connections to build his wealth, and protect himself.

any questions?



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by crusader
Well axeman I have read and researched alot, and what i came up with was mountains of dirt, and piling evidence sjky high about freemasonry, that you all seem to know about but refuse to acknowledge it. Oh boy.. Anyway, i have known a couple of freemasons, for example, my great grandfather, my foolish cousin, as well as my best friend, who has used Masonry to get a fortune, to the tune of $500 million US dollars. oh by the way he uses his masonic connections to build his wealth, and protect himself.

any questions?


I have a question.

Can you PROVE that?

How can a person use a FRATERNITY to "get a fortune"? Where did the fortune originate and how did he get it? ...and $500 MILLION? C'mon, you REALLY think we'd believe that?

To be sure, I think I'd believe ol' Pepsi's goat/feet/eye/piriamyd/baptometh/lew-cypher accusations first.

Facts please (like I've continually asked for) not nonsense and conjecture (like I continually get)

[edit on 28-10-2005 by senrak]



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 08:41 PM
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I am not talking any nonsense , this is facts! I know the man, we do business together at times, He 's of asian descent, and is an exporter, listen the i have even went to the guy dumba** lodge meetings twice, invited me, (Yawwwn......) anyway, I have facts, what do you need for me to back my claim?



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 08:54 PM
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senrak why do you guys dress up in monk robes?




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