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reply posted on 2-7-2006 @ 04:36 PM by urmomma158
A kinectic energy missile will kill it(including frontal strike).
The Line of Sight Antitank is a dedicated antitank weapon system capable of providing a high volume of accurate fires at ranges exceeding those of current tank main guns. The LOSAT Weapon System consists of an encased missile, missile shipping and storage containers, Fire Unit, support structure, reload system, Electro-Optical System (EOS), Target Acquisition System (TAS), Fire Control System (FCS) and Pulsed Laser System (PLS). The LOSAT will be mounted on an armament carrier, HMMWV (M1113), will have a three man crew, and carry four ready to fire Kinetic Energy Missiles (KEM). The KEM, a long rod tungsten penetrator, accelerates up to 5000 feet per second and has FIVE times the kinetic energy of current tank rounds. Time of flight to maximum range is less than five seconds.
www.globalsecurity.org...

LOAST was cancelled but the other two will easily kill it even in a frontal shot lol!!!

Newer KE penetrators like the US M829A2 and now M829A3, have been improved to defeat the armor design of Kontakt-5. The M829A2 was the immediate response, developed in part to take on the new armor bricks. The M829A3 is a further improvement of this as well and designed to fight future armor protection methods.
en.wikipedia.org...

BGM-71F TOW 2B The TOW 2B is the newest version of the TOW missile which will provide additional capability against future armored threats, starting production as an engineering change proposal to the FY 1990 production contract. The TOW 2B Missile incorporates new fly-over, shoot-down technology. The TOW 2B entered production in late 1991.
The TOW 2B was designed to attack targets from the top. The missile's trajectory places the missile slightly above the target when its two warheads explode downward. TOW 2B features a dual-mode sensor and a new armament section equipped with two warheads substantially different from those used in other TOW versions.
Earlier TOWs are direct-attack missiles with nose-mounted warheads that fire forward. The TOW 2B is designed to fly over the top of a tank and destroy it from above, where is is less heavily armored, by simultaneously detonating the missile's two Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP) warheads downward. The fly-over shoot-down flight profile permits the attack of targets in defilade or protected by berms or other fortifications.
TOW 2B resembles the TOW 2A, with a six-inch diameter warhead section in front, but without the standoff probe. Similarly, with only software modifications, the TOW 2B is compatible with all TOW 2 launcher platforms and equipment already in the field.
www.globalsecurity.org...

A soft launch ejects the missile from the launch tube to give a low-recoil shoulder launch. The soft launch enables firing from inside buildings or covered positions. Once the missile is clear, the larger propellant in the second stage is ignited and the missile is propelled towards the target. The weapon has two attack modes, direct or top attack.


The round consists of the Javelin missile and the ATK (Alliant Techsystems) Launch Tube Assembly. The range of the missile is 2,500m. Javelin is a fire-and-forget missile with lock-on before launch and automatic self-guidance. The missile is equipped with an imaging infrared seeker which is based on a cadmium mercury telluride (CdHgTe) 64 x 64 staring focal plane array in the 8 to 12 micron waveband. BAE Systems Avionics is providing the infrared seekers for the British Army's missiles. The tandem warhead is fitted with two shaped charges: a precursor warhead to initiate explosive reactive armour and a main warhead to penetrate base armour. The propulsion system is a two-stage solid propellant design which provides a minimum smoke soft launch.
www.army-technology.com...

Now i woouldn't take this tank too seriously now since the US's latest penetrators/ATGM's will go through!

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reply posted on 4-7-2006 @ 02:50 PM by urmomma158
no tank can take a maverick miiisle(125lb shaped charge with a diameter twice as big as hellfire). Hellfire has a tandem warhead to defeat reactive armor and when fired from longer ranges has a steep dive which means hellfire will hit the thin upper armor. It's trajectory and steep dive make it deadly not necessarily the warhead which is a common misunderstanding. I doubt any tank could take a hit from the javelin either since it too like the hellfire is a top attack munition with tandem warheads!
Maverick
www.designation-systems.net...

Hellfire www.globalsecurity.org...

Gives you good info on it's trjaectory and from what ranges it will hit the thin top armor of the tank.

Brilliant anti armor munitions for the MLRS.This can take out a few armored collumns.
www.globalsecurity.org...





I've seen some video's of hellfires being launchd from long range and I can tell you it hits the armor at almost 90 degress.Video's of Hellfire doing that are rare and you can probably only see it on futureweapons. Im saying this just incase the globalsecurity link doesn't work(sometimes the site has problems) It hits at around an 85 degree angle. that's why hellfire is so deadly.

info on it's size length diameter etc(BAT). ..... www.raytheon.com...




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reply posted on 4-7-2006 @ 04:51 PM by wildcat
Originally posted by Stealth Spy
Originally posted by deltaboy
armor.vif2.ru...

There is also an interesting artist's impression :


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Thats a funky lookin tank. The US is making a new one which will be short and stealthy. Russians wouldnt be able to dectected it unless they see it with their eyes.


reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 04:42 AM by chinawhite
Now tell me the difference between a shaped charge and a mortar round??????. A mortar round is not going to have the same effect as a shaped charge.

eg. Concentrated blast vs a unconcentrated blast over a wider area. About 300 grams in a 1cm^2 area vs 900 grams in a 10cm^2(generous considering mortars are a lot more splatter damage)

Its your turn to provide something about a mortar defeating Kontakt-5

And 15mm of hardened steel shatted APS rounds, how is a "Few hundred" grams of HE going to penerate 15mm of steel?. And considering the armour is put on angles of more than 45 degress it at least gives it more avabile armour. eg the famous T-34 armour on a slope



Just because an article says something does not mean it is so.


And your same argument would apply to a article written by a expert in his field?. Theres his website, why dont you go debate him and Mr. Robb McLeod who is a expert in tank armour and munitions


Here is something i wrote before hand, as a matter of fact this very post was directed towards you...LOL


Actually its third generation.

First one were the israeli ERA brick type blocks which were basic explosives which defeated Heat or other chemical rounds.

Then russian Kontakt-5 which were like the brick ERA but had a thicker denser outside to try break the tip of a APFSDS round and gave it extra protection which was mildly better.

Then there is this new Kaktus type of interweving armour which is a lot thinner and looks like it doesn't contain a lot of explosives or maybe none at all. Im just assuming this is just going to be used to defeat APFSDS rounds

Comparision



As you can see a lot thinner. And possibly the armour arrangment is a clam shell one as well

Here is a good read about ERA
Modern Explosive Reactive Armours



I feel Tanks are no longer useful, but Russia's most advanced Tank



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reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 01:39 PM by iskander
Tanks will be with us for a while. It's a natural cycle. Anti tank missiles are not silver bullets, and they are far from making a tank concept obsolete.

All kinds of anti-tank missile defenses already exists, and more are in the pipeline.

Arena, Kontakt, etc already provide protection against modern missiles, and next gen will also protect against sabot perpetrators.

Next logical step is active ECM and direct energy defenses such as microwave and laser. Lasers are already used to confuse missile targeting and to blind chopper crews and their sensors.

T-95 is moving in the right direction. Logically space saved by the unmanned turret will be occupied by a AAA system such as Tunguzka. Such configuration will merge two systems into one and provide nonparallel protection to the MBT from air attacks.

It is clearly the direction the Russians are going in. TOR for medium range SAM cover, T-95 type with Tunguska module, all protected from infantry and RPG crews by BMPT-2 Tank Assistance Combat Vehicle.

This configuration provides multiple levels of protection from ATGMs launched both from and and from the ground.

TOR takes care of the first stage, what ever it misses is taken care by 155mm main gun launched missile as a second stage, third stage is the 9M311 missile of the Tunguska module, fourth stage 4X30mm Tunguska module guns together with the 30s of the BMPT-2, fith stage active ECM, sixth stage thermal/laser smoke grenades, seventh stage Arena APS and eight stage Kaktus ERA.

That is a LOT to go through, especially considering that TOR and 9M311 are DESIGNED to intercept guided weapons of all kinds. That includes cruise missiles, guided missiles and guided bombs.

Such a totally independent mobile group configuration is already capable of more then defending it self, and with added support of BUK or S300, armored group concept is far from being obsolete to modern ATGM.

Further more, there are already concepts like short range rocket propelled flare dispensers to be used in conjunction with smoke dispensers to completely spoof IR fire and forget ATGMs.

TOR in its various models is fully data-linked with other platforms, so is Tunguska. Modernisation of Russian armor is focused on data-linked GPS and FCS integration. That means ALL units, not just SAM and AAA will prioritise targets on the bases of theater wide SA.

That in turn means that even now, TOR units communicate with Tunguska units, along with upgraded models of T80s, BMPT-2s and BMP-3s, thus creating a unique ring of armor protection.

That's not even including data-linked S300, BUK, air and artillery support, so getting close to launch an ATGM will require a major effort, and even when the weapon is released, it has to breach at least 8 levels of defenses before detonating its payload.

Tank era is far from being obsolete, its only the beginning.

BMPT-2
www.modelpoint.us...
www.warfare.ru...
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