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Originally posted by JoeDoaks
after the next presidential election.
Bush simply can not leave.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
HowardRoark
Yes, i am an idealist. Perhaps if we where all struggling for the ideal, instead of accepting the injustice, this world would be a better place. Don't trust those lethargic defeatist pigs that tell you there is no hope and you might as well give up on what is just.
If being wise means losing hope howard, i'd rather live as a fool.
You cry democracy democracy, freedom freedom, but all i see from you is hypocracy. What if iraq's people democractically chose a theocracy, what would you say then?
You know the resistance isn't fighting for a theocracy, they aren't fighting for any particular ideology, the resistance is made up many many ideological backgrounds, ranging from communist to theocrat. Christian to muslim. etc. etc. All the resistance is fighting for, is their freedom to choose their own path, without intervention. I have my own political ideologies, but whatever iraq finally chooses, is up to them. And i support them in there struggle for true freedom, not the orwellian version the US is selling.
(i am aware of the rhymes in the above...it was by chance i tells ya)
1. I have lived under two dictatorships, a socialist one, a capitalist one, and one which claims to be democratic but isn't really.
2. It's not just the racism, granted i don't experience much of that because of my white skin. But it's more of government oppression, you think it doesn't exist here? hah. It's just covered up better. Not a few months ago, one women, and australian citizen, was sent to a detention centre for 8 months because she couldn't produce her passport in random checks on the street. Another australian citizen, was DEPORTED and lost for 4 years, because she couldn't immediately provide her passport after she had a car accident.
Peoples homes have been raided in the middle of the night, computers have been confriscated. I take a risk speaking my mind here, freedom of speech, i've never encountered it in my life. Perhaps your only free when your not saying things against the governemnt. You know a frog can willingly be boiled in water, if you slowely turn up the heat. Similarly in australian society, and no doubt in american society, your freedoms are being slowely taken away, and you don't realise because your so indoctrinated into thinking you live in a democracy.
4. Again here you think that somehow the Iraqi resistance is fighting for theocratic rule? This is yet another falacy. I know that there are christians in the resistance, just as there are many other ideological groups. They aren't fighting for any political agenda, they are fighting for their right to survive, because howard, "live free or die".
5. You think the US government is benevolantly out to free people, and your calling me hopelessly naive?
That is not true howard. The same people who i ideolise do share my view, that is WHY i ideolise them. The same people who perpetrated the atrocities against there people are being put back into power by non other than the US, many former ba'athists are making up the new intelligence and security forces. Look it up, it's the truth, just like they put the nazi's into power.
Or ask and i'll give you evidence. You see, once a traitor, always a traitor. It's not what race or ideology that you belong to, bathist/kurd etc. that makes you a traitor, it's who you are intrinsically. I find it ironic also, that ONE MINUTE YOU CLAIM the resistance is made up of entirely religios THEOCRATS who have that as their only agenda, and the next minute who claim they are entirely made up of SECTERIAN (socialist) BA'ATHIST, hell bent on that agenda. There is a contradiction between these to agenda's, are you not aware?
It's not what group your a part of that makes you a criminal and an opportunist, it's who you are. The resistance are the true patriots of iraq, they are the same people who always fought for what was right from the very begining.
6. They do make an effort to protect civilians. The resistance is fighting with their lives to protect the civilians, the resistance would not hurt their own families, you think about it, it's illogical. There has been alot of false flag operations going on to defame the resistance. The people who would benefit most from reducing the support base of the gorrilla army are behind these false flag operations. But as you can see from the above letter, (which actually adresses this fact), the iraqi people are not fooled.
As for my impationed "HELL NO" i don't see how that is inconsitant with the fact that i live in a western country and have aquried some of your traits.
7. I did not evade the question, my answer is right there. And you find it curious that i am only a teenage girl and i use the word false flag ops? Thankyou for the compliment, i know that i am intelligent and know quiet a bit about the way the world works. But only a minute ago you where talking about how idealistic and naive i am because of my age. Why this contradiction? I have no reason to lie to you about my age or my location. If i wanted to lie to meet my agenda, i would have told you i was from iraq.
8. Despite our differance in age, i think i can safely say, that it is i who has seen MORE of life than you. I have seen alot in my few years.
Besides, wether or not you have faith in the iraqi people, or wether you don't think "they can complete it alone" is NON OF MY CONCERN. Who do you think you are, that you have some kind of authority over wether or not iraq can do it on their own? That you will inforce "what you think is best" for iraqies? Before you accuse me of hypocracy, note that we both may have an opinion on what is best for them, but your the only one trying to IMPOSE YOUR OPINION. On an unwilling people, and you claim to be democratic. Who do you think you are, that you have any parental autority of iraqies, you are not world police!
They created civilisation while your country was thousands of years from even being created. So i suggest you take a seat and learn before you try to teach.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Have you read that book? What are the interrogation tecniques the administration was interested in using?
Rape is one of the techniques, you are saying?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
hiding your shame by claiming you were being sarcastic, tisk tisk tisk.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
As for your talk about me being a child and that i shouldn't be talking politics but playing. Sadly in this world, alot of children are not able to play as they should. Some are out there fighting wars, some because they where pushed into it by well dressed recruiters who offered them the world, and some because they have to because they are attacked. Sadly in this world, there is not much room for children to be children.
I was born old, that's how i feel sometimes, and i know more about how this world works than people 4 times my age.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
They say that ignorance is bliss, but I'm not going to turn a blind eye , i'm going to fight for what is right with all my power, i'm going to defend the righteous people. And i'm going to let you know the truth wether you like it or not.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
To say that Sister is feet above most others is a unsubstantiated opinion. .
TC. . . leaving them totally defenseless to foreign invasion or to another despot. That would have been the cruelest decision, regardless of the reason for removing Hussein.
Howard said
I beielve that the people who are fighting are doing it for one reason and one reason only. Power. They don’t care about their fellow citizens.
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I care about tomorrow.
Moretti said
Worst offenders
Ten states accounted for almost 79% of all incidents reported to Cair in 2004, with the majority of attacks reported in California, followed by New York, Arizona, Virginia, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Maryland, New Jersey and Illinois.
Originally posted by Moretti
and on a related subject : soaring anti-muslim hate-crimes in the US :
A leading US Islamic civil rights group has released a report that indicates anti-Muslim hate crimes in the country have increased by half in the past year.
english.aljazeera.net...
Originally posted by SportyMB
We Love USA Thank you
Of course my friend said that thank you was spelled like think you, but it's the thought that counts...
[edit on 20/5/2005 by SportyMB]
OK, I will supply the proof.
Just wait, it is coming...
Soon, it will be in my next post...
Sister, if you have evidence that there are rapes and other abuses going on, not only do I suggest that you give it here, but that you also forward it to the proper authorities. As it has been proven time and again, we actually punish those guilty of such crimes; we do not honor those who commit atrocities, as the opposing side does.
ECK, there is some foreign intel that Hussein's bunch was involved indirectly, in a minor way
Maybe its because i actually told people exactly what they were going to view by clicking the link?
If she was truly a christian- 1. She wouldn't be married to a musslim.
2. If she was a proffessed christain she would probably be beheaded unless she hides the fact which probably means she is not truly a christain.
Some people classify themselves as christians just becuse they beieve in a God not The True God !
You were born old huh, and you know more about this world, than people 4 times your age. Most teenagers feel the same way syrian.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
....if the Iraqi people want a theocracy, I am totally ok with that......Whatever they decide, I wish them the best.
For the moment, though, it is our responsibility to get them back on their feet, nationally, and the insurgents are doing nothing but inhibiting that.