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Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Ofcource i have evidence, Just ask and i will give.
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but are you sure you can handle it? I doubt it, i didn't even think you'd really dare to ask me to prove it. But since you did, i shall do so in my next post! Stay tuned everyone.
Another extremely racist comment, and people where complaining about the other guy. Are you not aware that many Iraqies studied abroad, mostly in britian, and then returned to iraq? Are you not aware that iraqies are extremely intelligent, and that most of them know better english grammer than some americans?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Thankyou for exposing what you are also. Your version of what "iraqies" want, "McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut, fresh water...maybe Toys R' US?" sounds more like what the Capitalists in the US administration want. Your orwellian version of freedom is not what is going to happen to iraq. But thankyou for saying what you did Vincere, because i'm going to be quoting you with that for a long long time to come.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
You see, the US doesn't really want freedom in iraq, what they want is a pro-US capitalist regime, that will sell off iraq's oil/resources cheaply and would allow big companies to loot the rest.
This is the US's Vision of iraq, thankyou For proving that fact to everyone here vincere7..
Originally posted by Bikereddie
She speaks of torture and loss of limbs etc.
Take a look at this link, It is Extremely Graphic and contains images from Saddam's reign, and what he did.
Do not look at the images if you are sensitive to seeing people dead, gassed and tortured.
members.cox.net...
[edit on 03/12/04 by Bikereddie]
Originally posted by SportyMB
The website you reference this to is not a credible site...where is the mainstream news sources you spoke of?
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
I have to say, that having read the thread i can see that Syrian Sister is LEAGUES ahead of ANY of you who are trying to challange anything that she says.
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
Nice to see you've come up with a classic and lazy response. Excellent work on figuring that i did indeed register yesterday, but if you really must know that i simply registered with a different name under the same Email.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
again, I'm guessing you're pro-resistance?
Yes i am always pro the righteous people who are ridding their land of occupation. These are not the only heroic partisans i am Pro, i am also pro the resistance of france again nazi occupation, the resistance of Vietnamn against US/french occupation etc. etc.
Another question: Do you know any 'insurgents', 'resistance fighters', etc.?
Yes, i do. I have been blessed to know them.
Originally posted by vincere7
Seeing that you just registered yesterday, your credibility based on your statement, has flown out the window. Are you syrian sister under a new name?
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
so she's a teenie bopper, Vincere7 im beginning to wonder about your so called "credibilty". Does you mean to say that because she is a well read intelligent person we must fob off her opinion because she is a "teenie Bopper"
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
You also think that i'm a muslim, again you therefore by definition have prejudices, because obiviously if someone is spouting Anti American sentiment they must be either A) Muslim or B)" have a muslim point of view". "
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
Just incase you cant be bothered reading (something that i sense happens to you quite often) i shall highlight some basic reasons."
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
1) You've done it before in Laos and Northern Cambodia and got away with it (Air raid and cover it up) This is just one of many places..
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
2) Iraqs stability has taken, if im not mistaken, a pretty large nosedive since around march 2003, and i cant for the life of me think what happened on that date...
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
3) You have killed around give or take 25000 innocent people in the official war alone. Not to mention the sanctions, or the unofficial air strikes. Can you justify this? No, but PLEASE feel free to try....
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
4) Abu Ghraib
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
5) In Guantanamo Bay your breaches of the Geneva Convention every time you parade a prisoner outside demonstrate your lack of interest in international law.
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
6) She is well spoken and intelligent and backs up her claims with information, unlike most people here who throw back at her nothing but pre conceptions and false information.
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
7) Commen sense, are you seriously, in your heart of hearts telling me that Syrian Sister has no reason to feel contempt towards the USA and what they have done to a country she cares about?
Originally posted by Phil0s0pher
I think that will do for now. Hey could you get this guy a beer? He's starting to get irrational.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
So do you have any direct experience with life in Iraq under Saddam?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
1. Something similar yes.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Do you want to move from Australia, a modern, tolerant, society to Iraq?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
2. Australia, tolerant? HAH
Originally posted by HowardRoark
When you finish growing up, do you want to have a job and some sense of independence, even if you marry, or do you want to become a virtual slave to your husband with no hope of education, or independence?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
3.First of all, your question is based on alot of misconceptions, infact i feel insulted when you pose it to me, because i know what kind of underlying propoganda is underneath it. Infact, i don't even know wether or not i even plan to get married, and it is non of your bussiness thankyou.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
If you are a muslim, what particular branch of islam to you follow (i.e. Sunni, Shiite, etc.)?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
4. I don't support the cleansing of any race or people from anywhere, and neither does the resistance. My version of islam, i have no version of islam, i am just muslim thankyou. And besides religion has nothing to do with it, the women who wrote the letter is christian, there are christians in the resistance too you know.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Do you support the ethnic cleansing of Iraq of those that do not follow your particular version of Islam?
Do you support the ethnic cleansing of Kurds from Iraq?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
5. As i said, i don't support the cleansing of any race/religion etc, from anywhere.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Do you accept the premise that it is acceptable to kill innocent civilians in the process of launching terrorist attacks?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
6.HELL NO! And nor does the resistance.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Do you think that it is right to cut a man's head off in cold blood?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
7. in cold blood? i mean, do you mean me to answer you differently if you posed the question, "in hot blood"? The resistance has been under defamation due to false flag ops and what not, many belive the berg video was a CIA creation. I do not agree with the execution of any POW, anywhere anyhow, So long as the person counts as a POW under the geneva convention.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Syrian Sister, What do you think would happen in Iraq if those who are conducting the insurgency were to suddenly gain power?
Do you think that they would have free elections?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
8. Yes, ofcource. I have faith in the iraqi people.
Originally posted by HowardRoarkDo you think that they would allow relegious freedom?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
9. Yes ofcource, there are christians as well as muslims in the resistance, and christians and muslims have been living together peacefully in iraq for the last 1400 years.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Do you think that they would restore land and property seized by Sadam back to their original owners?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
10. Has that not already happened? how will they do it again?
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Do you think that they would allow young ladies like yourself access to the internet?
What do you think would happen?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
11. Iraq would be free.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
How many innocent Iraqis would die in the ensuing bloodbath?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
12. That depends on how many innocent iraqies the US occupation will kill out of spite and anger, the same kind that MasterGallo showed.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Now howard Roark, if i may, i have my own questions for you, and i hope that you can answer them in the same manner which i answered you.
Are you aware Saddam worked for the CIA?
Are you aware, that the US helped to put saddam into power?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Are you aware, that the US supported him, gave him weapons, some of which he used to kill kurds?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Do you support the fact that the US is still supporting despotic regimes around the world?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Where were you when Saddam gassed the kurds?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Are you aware that the US betrayed the Shia uprising in 1991?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Are you aware of intelligence pyso-op operations?
Originally posted by Syrian SisterDid you support the sanctions on iraq, which up to 1995 led to the death of 1.5 million iraqies, 2/3rds of which where under the age of 5 ?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
If a people do not want to be occupied, would you still occupy them?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Do you think that the lives of civilians are merely "collatoral damage" in war?
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
If your country where invaded and occupied, would you resist?
Propaganda is a specific type of message presentation aimed at serving an agenda. At its root, the denotation of propaganda is 'to propagate (actively spread) a philosophy or point of view'. The most common use of the term (historically) is in political contexts; in particular to refer to certain efforts sponsored by governments or political groups.
My question is...was Saddam the bad guy he's been portrayed as here, or is it just propaganda/manufacturing a "good" reason for invasion? My husband always says, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
"Sporty appologised if i miss understood."
"It's all good "
"And I even said that his comment was false....that he was stereotyping. "
"The website you reference this to is not a credible site...where is the mainstream news sources you spoke of?"
"Again, please provide good sources...www.firethistime.org is not one of them. "
"They were combatants...just like the US troops, and they were also responsible for thier share of Iraqi deaths....were they not"
"I don't see how people can justify Saddam and his henchmen....CIA empowerment or not...he is/was an evil man that commited many atrocites and was directly responsible for many deaths. And he and his goonies should dealt with for thier crimes.."
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Shots
This is the correct definition of propoganda.
Propaganda is a specific type of message presentation aimed at serving an agenda. At its root, the denotation of propaganda is 'to propagate (actively spread) a philosophy or point of view'. The most common use of the term (historically) is in political contexts; in particular to refer to certain efforts sponsored by governments or political groups.
en.wikipedia.org...
From American Heritage Dictionary
prop·a·gan·da (pr¼p”…-g²n“d…) n. 1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those people advocating such a doctrine or cause. 2. Material disseminated by the advocates of a doctrine or cause: the selected truths, exaggerations, and lies of wartime propaganda.
from answers.com
1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
I gave you a link from CBS!!!! that's an american channel is it not? I agree with you that it's bias, but i would say it's pro-US bias and i would think that you would accept that