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Iran manufactures F-14 engine parts

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posted on May, 19 2005 @ 03:24 AM
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I have found this article from Iranian news agency which I thick is very interesting.

Iran manufactures F-14 engine parts

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[edit on 19-5-2005 by persian]




posted on May, 19 2005 @ 03:30 AM
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Those seem to be well maintained. Interesting to see that Iran still takes care of these interceptors, as theyre maintenance cost must be terrible. Cannibalizartion powah


Anyone can identify de weapons carried under the wings?

Notice aswell the F-5 type aircraft behind the APU, on the last picture, equipped with a rocket pod and something like a TV guidance missile or somehing like that...

Nice pics! Pretty wierd to see the Tomcats under this camo sheme



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 03:55 AM
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How did the IRAAF F-14s fari against the Iraqi Mig-29s?? In the 8 year long Iran Iraq war??!!

Gosh now that I come to think of it.. Iraq's a country thats been war ravaged for the better part of the last 30 years!!
Poor country!!

And now they've been infected with all these damn fanatic terrorists..!!



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 07:54 AM
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Hmmm if these F14's are properly maintained and have modern software and Phoenix missels then they are a very very big threat.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Daedalus3
How did the IRAAF F-14s fari against the Iraqi Mig-29s?? In the 8 year long Iran Iraq war??!!


Iran’s tomcats did an awesome job in the Iran/Iraq war. As far as I know, Iraq only managed to down 5 Iranian f14s in the 8 years war and after the second year, Iraq learned not to send any of its aircrafts inside of Iran. In pretty much most of the war, Iranian tomcats were used as mini AWACS to guide the F4s and F5s.

Actually if you are interested, you can go to this forum and ask some of the guys about Iranian f14s. There are some very knowledge people in here who can answer your question about Iranian military in general.

Here is the address:
www.iranmilitaryforum.com...



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 08:08 AM
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I wonder if they'll soon have the capability to manufacture their own F-14 clones.
I guess it's not too much of a stretch if the can manufacture some of the parts now.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 08:19 AM
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Afganistan had a few F-4s F-5 and F-14s as well

Probly doing some reverse engineering of the craft. they "barrowed" from the talliban



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 08:19 AM
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Super old news and is no threat to anyone, but the Iranians themselves.




seekerof



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by persian

Iran’s tomcats did an awesome job in the Iran/Iraq war. As far as I know, Iraq only managed to down 5 Iranian f14s in the 8 years war and after the second year, Iraq learned not to send any of its aircrafts inside of Iran. In pretty much most of the war, Iranian tomcats were used as mini AWACS to guide the F4s and F5s.

Actually if you are interested, you can go to this forum and ask some of the guys about Iranian f14s. There are some very knowledge people in here who can answer your question about Iranian military in general.



But As far as I know The IRAAF never downed any Mig29s and the F-14s downed planes like the MiG21/MiG23/ Mirage I etc..
Also the 4 F-14s downed were shot down by MiG21s I think..



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Super old news and is no threat to anyone, but the Iranians themselves.




seekerof


the downside is you are very wrong and highly miss informed - they have working phoenix missiles and thus are a threat.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 10:38 AM
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as posted by Harlequin
the downside is you are very wrong and highly miss informed...

Really? Not good.
Let's see what I can do to rectify that mistake and my being mis-informed.

As for those Phoenix missiles: very limited number, Harlequin, along with those very minimal flying Iranian F-14s.
Yeah, we had Phoenix's till we replaced them.
Whats that tell you?

The Iranian F-14s are no threat to the US or any significant Western or Asian power. Bet.


In the 1990s some 20 of 79 F-14s are said to be still in flying condition, with the other airframes serving as spare part platforms.

According to the Flight International magazine (Sept. 1999), Iran has managed to keep operational a large number of its F-14 fleet until today. Iran - with the help of Russian experts & technology - is comprehensively upgrading its F-14 fleet involving a new radar, engine and a glass cockpit. This will not only keep their F-14s operational but will give Iran also a potent F-14 force well into the next century. (Not mentioned by Flight International is the major problem of airframe fatigue. Even with Russian technology, this problem cannot be solved and remaining airframe hours will certainly end the Iranian F-14 era some day.)

Home of MATS: The Most Comprehensive Grumman F-14 Reference Work

As to Iran manufacturing F-14 parts, apparently, they can only manufacturer certain parts, not all, and only enough to keep the aircraft at minimal flight specs. Obviously, Iran hype and propaganda will dictate otherwise.

Again, the news is super old.
How old? Lets go back to 2000.....
2 Charged in Plot to Export Jet Parts: Customs Alleges F-14 Components Were Illegally Bound for Iran's Air Force


The F-14, a multi-role fighter manufactured by Northrop Grumman Corp., is flown only by the U.S. and Iranian air forces. Iran acquired 99 F-14s from the United States in the 1970s, before the country's Islamic revolution. It is believed to have about 25 of the aircraft in service.

The commander of Iran's air force said last year that the country had become self-sufficient in maintaining its F-14s, although Jane's Defense Weekly reported last year that Iran is capable of manufacturing only about 70 percent of the components needed to keep the aircraft operational.







seekerof

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posted on May, 19 2005 @ 10:49 AM
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70% is still a fairly large ammount. I think in the future they will be able to do it all by them selves.

The Phoenix is only being replaced because there is no other jet fighter which can carry it other than the F14.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
the downside is you are very wrong and highly miss informed - they have working phoenix missiles and thus are a threat.


Because that's the only way they would have functioning Phoenix missiles. Propellants degrade over time, as do sensitive electronics packages. also only the AIM-54A was supplied to the Iranians, a variant that is considered suboptimal for dog fighting (it is designed for long range fleet defense against incoming bombers-read Soviet).

What they have will make great vintage display items, or large paperweights.

Carry on.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 11:08 AM
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Wrong answer, tomcat ha.
There are other aircraft that can use the Phoenix.

20-25 outdated and outmodded F-14s are no threat.
They have limited airframe hours [air fatigue problems, etc.] and even limited Phoenix missiles.




seekerof

[edit on 19-5-2005 by Seekerof]



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Wrong answer.
There are other aircraft that can use the Phoenix.


The AIM-54 series was/is dedicated to the F-14 series aircraft, the missile being integrated with the AWG-9 radar system (the Phoenix has a miniature version of this system on board, hence it's cost).

There was thought to integrate it into the F-111 project, but was shelved when that project was canceled, and the aircraft re-purposed into its bomber/electronic warfare roles.

www.fas.org...

www.designation-systems.net...

www.globalsecurity.org...



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 11:37 AM
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as posted by Major Discepancy
There was thought to integrate it into the F-111 project...


That was the "other aircraft" I was referring to without naming.
Forgot about the cancellation.




seekerof



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 11:59 AM
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the F-14 , as used by the iranian`s would be used in 2 roles - `large aircraft` interception , second line aircraft being the obvious candidate , and `shepherd and sheep` approach for using the other aircraft they have.

that is the reason they are a threat , not the obvious way you dismiss anything that doesn`t say `raptor` on it.

its unfortunate that you have never served in the air force , like i do - otherwise you would consider many aircrfat types you summarily dismiss as `useless` far more dangerous.

internet `links` only go so far.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 12:03 PM
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You have to be wheels up to have any chance at air superiority, and the Iranians are staring at a "weight on wheels" light in the cockpits of their F-14s, therefore, there is no threat.

Dismissed.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 12:10 PM
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The AIM-54 missile a major threat LOL.

It was built for one purpose alone to attack Soviet bomber fomations en masse at long range. The missile is designed to achieve maximum speed very quickly and then to coast towards its target in the rarefied air in the upper atmosphere. Against a fighter size target it has bugger all energy to manouver against it. With todays advanced fighter angles of attack, I wouldn't even give it a 10% kill probability at 50 km let alone 200km.

The reason the Phoenix was retired is simply, they brought into service the AMRAAM which I think now has a 100km + range. Not only does it carry an active seeker it sustains powered flight all the way to maximum range giving it a high probability of a kill even against a violently manouvering fighter jet head on.

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posted on May, 19 2005 @ 12:21 PM
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rouge

the amraam doesn`t have a 100km+ range

and the AIM-54 has an active seeker







 
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