Are You For Or Against The War In Iraq?

Originally posted by devilwasp
What makes you think they want democracy?

The fact that they turned up in their thousands to vote in the elections in January!!!

Do you need more proof than that???

Originally posted by MickeyDee
The fact that they turned up in their thousands to vote in the elections in January!!!

So voteing now means democracy?

Do you need more proof than that???

Yes I do, right now there in democracy, that doesnt mean they want it.

Originally posted by devilwasp
Yes I do, right now there in democracy, that doesnt mean they want it.

Well most of the world believes that democracy is best, and i believe that most of Iraq does.

When the time comes for the US/UK to leave Iraq then the Iraqi public will be able to decide for themselves.

We had a job to do in Iraq for the well-being of the people there, i believe we are nearing completion of our job so will be leaving in the next couple of years, when that time comes the Iraqi people choose democracy as it is the only fair way to live!!!

Originally posted by MickeyDee
Well most of the world believes that democracy is best, and i believe that most of Iraq does.

Really?
Can I see some figures on that?

When the time comes for the US/UK to leave Iraq then the Iraqi public will be able to decide for themselves.

Ah so wait, you agreeing there not in democracy right now?

We had a job to do in Iraq for the well-being of the people there, i believe we are nearing completion of our job so will be leaving in the next couple of years, when that time comes the Iraqi people choose democracy as it is the only fair way to live!!!

Really?
You see democracy as the only political way to live?
Open your mind to political sides, democracy is but one way of doing things.
Hell we arent even a full democracy yet.

I am against the "WAR" in Iraq. I think american citizens and the whole world are beeing taken for a ride by a leadership that is succeeding in dumbing its citizens to an extent where they think all is fine while most of the world is mushrooming with hatred towards the U.S. I would go as far as saying.. Bush is running on a closer path with Adolf Hitler than many realize.. I live in Switzerland which is about as neutral as it gets.. 80% of the population here, just as a simple example, on a recent poll stated that they go as far as to say that they "hate" the U.S. and his policies.

1.) My reasoning is simple on analysis of exclusion:

a There were no WMD that is clear by now. Honestly Bush also knew so.

b Saddam and Iraq as a whole had not the slightest role in 911.

c Saddam was not a top threat to anyone.. compared to Iran, Syria or countries like North Korea or even (indirectly) SAUDI ARABIA. How much resistance was there when the U.S. invaded Iraq from a point of weaponry ? Virtually none.. Because Iraq had nothing... and was no threat.

Ive heard arguments that the war is just because Saddam was a dictator who killed thousands of civilians.. Didnt Bush kill tens of thousands of civilians in the mideast by now in the name of this "just war" leave alone over 1600 innocent young american soldiers ? Oh .. ja but we are fighting terrorists right ? .. well Maybe the Kurds were seen by Saddam as terrorists ? Oh but yes I forgot only Bush decides who is a terrorist..right?
And besides all that.. Was it not the U.S. who gave the Iraqis the weaponry and the gas in order to fight Iran in the first place ? Well if Saddam would gas the Iranis with the gas delivered by the U.S. then it would be fine ? Cause that is what it was there fore... I mean there is a huge difference if thousands of INNOCENT Iranis or thousands of INNOCENT Kurds die ... is that what we are told here ?

Oh but wait.. Saddam was in Human rights violation ... So he needed to be removed.. But does Americas top allie SAUDI ARABIA not have the worst human rights record in the region where people are beeing tortured and amputation of limbs still is in accordance to law ? How come they are top buiddes of the U.S.A.?

SO then what the heck WAS the reason for the war ?????

Double standards... Corruption... New World Order... sounds like more realistic reasons for the war...... North Korea was and is a threat not Iraq.




Teacher asks student.. so what do you wanto be when your big ?
Student answer "North Korea" .. Teacher asks.. "what do you mean ???"
Boy says: "Ever heard of the millions of 100$ bill Super dollars ? Made in North Korea...Ever seen any of the millions of new perfectly forget Euro notes ? Made in North Korea...and now security through atom bombs ? Made in North Korea... I wanna be North Korea...

Originally posted by devilwasp
Ah so wait, you agreeing there not in democracy right now?

Iraq is on the way to democracy, but there are still many people in Iraq that will do all in their power to disrupt the making of a better country.
The US and UK must stay till these people are defeated. Then it will be time to leave.
What happens when we leave is upto them, we will have given them an insight into democracy and it will be their choice.

But will we ever leave at the risk of losing all that oil?????


[edit on 23/5/2005 by MickeyDee]

Originally posted by MickeyDee
Iraq is on the way to democracy, but there are still many people in Iraq that will do all in their power to disrupt the making of a better country.

There stopping you makeing a democracy, they dont like democracy.

The US and UK must stay till these people are defeated. Then it will be time to leave.

Yes we got us into a mess for no reason other than we didnt like sadam.

What happens when we leave is upto them, we will have given them an insight into democracy and it will be their choice.

I doubt we will totally leave...

But will we ever leave at the risk of losing all that oil?????

By "we" you mean the US...right?
Since the only things we "own" abroad are 3 small islands and a hill.....

Originally posted by devilwasp
There stopping you makeing a democracy, they dont like democracy.

They are also a minority, a tiny minority at that!

Originally posted by devilwasp
I doubt we will totally leave...

Agreed!!!

Originally posted by devilwasp
By "we" you mean the US...right?

The US/UK. I believe the rest of the coalition will dwindle away in the next 2-3 yrs.

Originally posted by devilwasp
Since the only things we "own" abroad are 3 small islands and a hill.....

Totally off subject but which islands and hill! Im curious!

Originally posted by MickeyDee
They are also a minority, a tiny minority at that!

Minority's turn into majority's and vice versa all the time...

The US/UK. I believe the rest of the coalition will dwindle away in the next 2-3 yrs.

No, the UK force there will be negligable, probably one unit, mabye a regiment.

Totally off subject but which islands and hill! Im curious!

Acession island, the falkland islands and Gibraltar.
Discouting isle of white and the channel islands.

Originally posted by devilwasp
Minority's turn into majority's and vice versa all the time...

That would be one hell of a u-turn

Originally posted by devilwasp
No, the UK force there will be negligable, probably one unit, mabye a regiment.

If the US wants us to stay, we will stay!!!

Originally posted by devilwasp
Acession island, the falkland islands and Gibraltar.
Discouting isle of white and the channel islands.

I was just wondering what The Hill was.

Originally posted by MickeyDee
That would be one hell of a u-turn

Happened before..

If the US wants us to stay, we will stay!!!

Yeah but as a token force.

I was just wondering what The Hill was.

That really annoys the spainards...