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ATS: 300 Muslim Clerics Call For Jihad Against The US in Three Days.

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posted on May, 16 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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A group of 300 Muslim clerics are calling for the US government to give up the military personnel who supposedly desecrated the Quran, so that the people responsible can be punished as per Islamic law. The clerics also declared that if in 3 days those responsible for the supposed desecration are not turned in, they will call for a jihad against the United States.
 



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The clerics in the northeastern province of Badakhshan said they wanted U.S. President George W. Bush to handle the matter honestly "and hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment."

"If that does not happen within three days, we will launch a jihad against America," said a statement issued by about 300 clerics, referring to Muslim holy war, after meeting in the main mosque in the provincial capital, Faizabad.




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This was all caused by the report from Newsweek that American interrogators were supposedly desecrating the Quran. Even if there is some truth about these allegations, why is it that these clerics are calling for a jihad against the US when bibles, and the American flag is being burned in many countries around the world, including Islamic countries? Yet not one Christian/Catholic country, or the clergy from those countries has responded in this manner.



[edit on 16-5-2005 by Muaddib]




posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:02 PM
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So, let me get this straight.
Invasion of iraq? Not a problem. Capturing muslims and imprisoning them in cuba? AOK. Brutalizing and humiliating muslims in abu garaib? Totally Acceptable. Muck with some book? And its holy war with these particular doodes? I mean, thats what set them off??



Sepoy mutinty all over again.



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:04 PM
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I think we can expect that the US will turn over military personnel to Islamic clerics when pigs fly. Whoops! Did I say pigs?

[edit on 05/5/16 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:08 PM
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This is all fake, orchestrated outrage over a story that probably isn't even true...

If these people really cared about respecting the Koran, they wouldn't go around bombing mosques (full of Korans) of other Islamic sects so often would they?



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:08 PM
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Nygdan, this is scary. I totally agree with you.

I maybe a little confused, but hadnt they declared jihad on us before?


There's something wrong with this whole story...


I'm sure we'll all be shaking in our boots



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:10 PM
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All the US needs to do is to hand over the entire Newsweek liberal staff that edited and put to press the offending non-truth article to those Muslim clerics.

Problem solved.




seekerof

[edit on 16-5-2005 by Seekerof]



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
All the US needs to do is to hand over the entire Newsweek liberal staff that edited and put to press the offending non-truth article to those Muslim clerics.


Wow I wish you could vote you for TWATS Seekerof!



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:15 PM
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That's what i was thinking Seekeroff.


Give them the Newsweek people who started this.


I don't think that would be enough for them thou.

I don't think that the whole Muslim world is in favor of this, but i find it strange that these clerics think the US would even consider doing this.

[edit on 16-5-2005 by Muaddib]



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:16 PM
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Seekerof, your day job must be in public relations



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 12:46 AM
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I believe I heard what the real story was today. It wasn't a guard who flushed the Koran down a toilet. It was one of the Muslim prisoners trying to upset a guard. The prisoner tore pages out of the Koran or some other book and tried to clog up the toilet to upset the guards. Of course I don't expect hardly a soul in the Muslim world to believe a story like this. Of course I also think those Muslims who murdered others over this unproven story should just go to eternal damnation. Murder is against the 10 commandents. Flushing pages into a toilet is not nice but this is what a prisoner apparently did. If a story got out that a guard did it, well that is just a lie a guard might use to upset a prisoner (mental torture I believe is considered ok). Other forms of ok mental torture might be playing rock music at all hours of the day. Apparently talking about flushing a book down a toilet needs to be removed as a form of mental torture so other prisoners don't hear the story and repeat it to Newsweek reporters.

Mental torture is something that could very well be totally fictitious but the prisoner is made to believe the story just like Newsweek fooled everyone. The US believes in honoring or protecting all religions and it is written into our constitution (Freedom of religion). I believe our soldiers are sworn to defend the constitution as well. I'd really hate to have to go to war because someone made up a story.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:19 AM
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the desecration of koran is a death penalty offense in Afganistan and Pakistan no matter who you are, i presume thats why its causing such a stir.
However, it silly to assume its only about this incident, rather its the final straw, or how do you say it.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:21 AM
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As if, there not the first ones to declare such, off that high horse I say.

Jihad against the USA, can't any one be original.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
All the US needs to do is to hand over the entire Newsweek liberal staff that edited and put to press the offending non-truth article to those Muslim clerics.

Problem solved.


Yah, but if they, the lib press, put out that article and it was in fact an offending "non-truth" then that would mean it never really happened therefore there would be reason to hand them over to the clerics anymore. On the other hand, if what they did is write an article that was in fact "true" then handing them over to clerics would be punishment for telling the truth. Plus the clerics wouldn't want the press anyway cause if it was true they'd want the guy who flushed the book down the crapper.

That leaves us with either "Injustice by Believing a Lie" or "Injustice by Punishing the Truth" wouldn't it??? Unless you really just wanted to screw with some lib journalists in which case I doubt you care much about the logic behind doing so.


orionthehunter, BTW, if your idea of Mental Torture is having a guard lie to me about flushing my books, or for that matter even flushing them for real, combined with playing Rock Music all day, then all I can say is "I hope I get sent to your military prison if I'm ever captured!! Atleast there's good tunes and I know my plumming works well.

Will the Rock Music be Classic Rock like Zepplin, Stones, Jimi, etc.??? In fact, I'll tell ya what, if you include an occasional six pack of imports or maybe a nudie mag. with that Music, I'll smuggle and deal a "butt-load"(literally) of contraband and pass the profits over to you.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:30 AM
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well this whole thing just rubs me the wrong way

and , I agree with djohnsto77 that this is a bunch of crap....add it to all the other crap too. and what do we got ? a really really BIG, pile of crap !

this is another contrivance

and, who cares, what they think ? who cares ? I'm sorry, I don't. and I don't buy into politically correct either...just more crap, another SALES PITCH !

and HOW MANY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES WERE DESTROYED BY THE MUSLIMS IN KOSOVO ? WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE THERE ? eh ? where were the christian riots ?

oh yeah, sorry, my bad...wtf was I thinkin' ? only fake outrage is politically correct, when it serves a purpose....

and how does one FLUSH a koran anyways ?

I'd like to print the directions on a T-Shirt ....


I've never seen so many lame faux claims at this or that being done, in my life over a war ! ok, I forgot about that SKUZBAG SLIMEBALL arafat....the king of liars....but you get my drift, eh ?

ever since the POWER BROKERS approved ETHNIC CLEANSING as a NICE phrase to explain muslim > christian murder, we've been getting a SUPER SNOW JOB , which is obfuscating reality. [ what did revelations say about being decieved in the last days ? ] has anyone asked themselves, why was this new phrase necessary ? and who invented it ? [ sounds like a cia phrase to me ]


I wish I knew who THEY were....I'd tell them to kiss my grits...for all the good it would do..


sorry for rambling, this really hit a nerve...and I'm hoppin' mad...


[edit on 17-5-2005 by toasted]



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:41 AM
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Not everyone in Afgahnistan is reacting the same way. There have been some peaceful demonstrations, some violent demonstrations and there have been Muslim clerics who have not made any statement on waging a jihad against the US. This report, that allegedly American interrogators desecrated a Quran, has ignited more resentment against the US from many Muslim people, some of them being extremists, some of them being moderates.

I just hope that these clerics just retract from this statement and that other Muslim clerics also speak against such violent actions.

[edit on 17-5-2005 by Muaddib]



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by nukunuku

However, it silly to assume its only about this incident, rather its the final straw, or how do you say it.


Yeah, I agree with that. It just the last thing in a very long line of things that have pissed people off. The war in Iraq (completely unjustified and based on lies), torture scandal in Abu Ghraib, total disaster called "liberated" Iraq, Guantanamo Bay torture, general arogance of Bush administration, hypocrisy, completely insane and retarded foreign policy, invasion of other countries, complete disregard for international treaties, laws, organisations, and other countries for that matter, old wars and revenge sprees.... things just keep piling up.

Actually, the whole world seems to be on the edge, just waiting for one little thing to set everything off.


cjf

posted on May, 17 2005 @ 02:02 AM
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Well, if there is no counterbalance for the negative rhetoric from the cleric community and this ‘new Jihad’ against America begins coming closer to the deadline, the inhabitants of the US should respond in kind and consider their response options. An example, the people in the US could run out and purchase Korans and hold them hostage, perhaps even leak some stills and videos to Fox News of the captives. May be even include a few fiercely masked citizens armed with sharp, nasty toilet brushes and plungers in the background to show they really mean business unless they stop the ‘new Jihad’ immediately.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by paperclip
The war in Iraq (completely unjustified and based on lies),
..................


Only liberals, some democrats, probably some anarchists, socialists and even communists keep proclaiming this even after all the evidence that says the contrary and even come from other countries in the world such as Spain, Russia, and France.

BTW, in case you didn't know there are real unjustified wars being waged against entire people, and which have cost more lives than the war in Iraq, yet noone seems to want to say anything about it because it has to do with an Islamic country and the Arab extremist militia the Islamic government backs, and which has killed more than 2.4 million people since 1983.... Not only that, but this is not the only country who has done this and has killed this many people.... yet, noone says anything about those even thou more people are being killed...


[edit on 17-5-2005 by Muaddib]



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 02:10 AM
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Yeah comments like paperclip's make me sick too.


Iraq was in violation of the signed cease fire agreement from the original gulf war and the U.S. was completely justified in resuming hostilities even without the additional U.N. resolutions passed etc. etc. etc.....

[edit on 5/17/2005 by djohnsto77]



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 02:20 AM
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there have been a lot of valid things said here. for myself i will say this could be very bad. or nothing at all could happen thats the wonderfull thing about threats.

mojom put forth a very valid point
about the injustice that could be done depending on if the story is correct or not. was it not quite rightly reported? or is the retraction a coverup? who and what do we trust on this?

someone mentioned the fact of why now over this and not before? well think of this as the final straw type of thing. i don't see this in it's self causeing the uproar but as just one more thing stacke upon maany others. not the most important thing but all of them added togeter to go beyond tollerance.

cjf. good plan. ]NOT. all that would achive would be to stir up more resentment and hate. adding more oil onto a fire. syriansister i believe it was posted a picture of an aircraft carrior on which the crew formed the words (bleep) iraq. i am sure that, that realy did a lot to help the problem don't you think? we need to find a way to curb resentment and hate not cause more. these types of ideas are the opposit of what is needed IF ONE REALY WANTS PEACE. of course i guess some prefer the conflict to carry on and grow.

i guess a good quetion is whether or not that peace is what is even wanted.




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