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I wish our government would condemn the Uzbek authorities. It's a basic obligation that we have, in way of sustaining democratic ideals and human rights. Firing assault rifles into the crowd is an ugly act and the US position should be clear.
From a White House press conference, March 16, 2005
Q As Commander-in-Chief, what is it that Uzbekistan can do in interrogating an individual that the United States can't?
THE PRESIDENT: We seek assurances that nobody will be tortured when we render a person back to their home country.
Torture is rampant in Uzbekistan, but police mete out particularly harsh treatment to religious detainees to compel confessions or other testimony.
Maruf Makhkamov was arrested on October 30 and accused of "Wahhabism." The 25-year-old man was kept for two months in a basement cell in Tashkent police headquarters, where officers beat him every day until he lost consciousness. Police arrested Makhkamov's brother and said he would be released only when Maruf confessed to being an "extremist." The officers threatened to arrest Makhkamov's wife as well and to gang rape her in front of him. He signed the confession and on February 23 went on trial with six complete strangers as part of a covert "extremist" group.
For now, unfortunately, the U.S. and the Uzbek government are losing the battle for the hearts and minds of the Uzbek people. The reasons are simple: Post-Soviet transition problems, worsened by the politically and economically oppressive policies of the current regime have produced tremendous poverty, corruption and resentment among the people. Uzbekistan has a horrendous human rights record, with ongoing torture in its prisons, creating many "Enemies of State," as the title of a recent Human Rights Watch report correctly identifies.
you all forget we have bigger fish to fry and we could not afford to lose access to afghanistan, we cant do anything if we expect to win in afghanistan.
originally submitted by Subz
There have been reports of up to 700 men, women and children murdered by the Uzbek army. This is the worst mass murder of civilians by their own government since Tianamen Square!
But because it is the US who sees the regime in Ubekistan as allies against the war on terror it is all over the news and suddenly this is the worse catastrophe that is happening in the planet... That's bs....
Originally posted by Muaddib
This is the worse mass murder of civilians by their own government since Tiananmen Square huh?..... How convinient to call it so.... and for one reason only....because the US sees the Uzbek government as an ally against the war on terror....even thou the US does not condone the things the government of Uzbek has done...
But if the reports of more than 700 deaths since Friday hold true, and if Uzbek forces were behind the killing as most reports indicate it would be some of the worst state-inspired bloodshed since the massacre of protesters in China's Tiananmen Square in 1989
If the reports of more than 700 deaths since Friday hold true and if Uzbek forces were behind the killing - as most reports indicate - it would be some of the worst cases of bloodshed involving a government's troops and civilian demonstrators since the massacre of protesters in China's Tiananmen Square in 1989.
The U.S. State Department on Monday criticized Uzbekistan's government for opening fire on demonstrators and said the Bush administration had contacted Uzbek authorities to urge restraint.
" We are deeply disturbed by the reports that the Uzbek authorities fired on demonstrators last Friday," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said.
Originally posted by Muaddib
I also have to wonder why in the world there is this much outrage from all over the world over this when in fact Kofi Annan does not want to admit that genocide is and has been happening in Sudan since over 2,400,000 people have been killed by the jihads called forth by the government of Sudan and by the Arab militias since 1983
re have been reports of up to 700 men, women and children murdered by the Uzbek army. This is the worst mass murder of civilians by their own government since Tianamen Square!
Hardly a more incongruous ally for a nation that extolls the virtues of a democratic free society!
you all forget we have bigger fish to fry and we could not afford to lose access to afghanistan
but allowing Sharia law to be supreme and for the country to become Islamic is going to make things worse.
when in fact Kofi Annan does not want to admit that genocide is and has been happening in Sudan
But because the US sees the Uzbek government as allies in the war on terror
Hatred and unpopularity at the time have ever been the fate of those who have aspired to empire. But it is good judgment to accept odium in a great cause; hatred does not last long, and brilliance of the moment and fame of afterdays remain forever in men's memories
. You think they want to let that go?