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Topic started on 16-5-2005 @ 05:46 AM by Xenersys
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"Radical animal-rights activists may be the last people you'd think would be planning school lessons for your children. Well, think again.
Through its innocuous-sounding "educational" programming arm known as TeachKind, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has found a way to
reach school children starting as young as kindergarten with its extremist agenda. The opportunity for PETA (search) to gets its message into the
classroom has been paved, at least in part, by various laws on the books in at least 12 states mandating humane education in public schools — thus
creating a demand for curricula centered on teaching children about the humane treatment of animals."
www.foxnews.com...
This really should not suprise anyone, these radicals also fund ELF and other "nutjob" organizations who are domestic terrorist. Corrupt the minds
of children with their lunacy. Education needs to be reformed and such groups should not be included.
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reply posted on 16-5-2005 @ 06:11 AM by PurityOfPeace
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I am all for the ethical treatment of animals, so if this program can give kids a little better understanding, and provide them with a little
knowledge on things that happen to animals, then i am all for it.
PETA have a habit of getting bad press however, and they do go to some debatable lengths to get their point across, but if this is no more than a
harmless educational program, then i do not see a problem with it.
FOX are obviously no supporters with a headline "PETA Gets to Your Kids".
Whatever you view is on PETA, and there work, i don't think anyone could have a serious problem with something that is merely educational, as long as
it is not completely biased, which, considering it is PETA, may well be.
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reply posted on 16-5-2005 @ 06:24 AM by Lysergic
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Fur coats? I'm not a fashion whore nor a pimp.
But I loves me red meat! I like how it's trendy to support Peta, I mean look at those ppl in the photo, ROFLMAO
am I suppose to be grossed out by an animal with no skin?
imo need to be more like native americans and use the whole animal, so why don't they go cook up them dogs and feed the azn population over there
instead of saying omg like meat is totally murder.
btw, I kill bugs on contact someone alert the whaaaaambulance.
until peta nuts can survive on sun light alone they can just buggah off
i like how super models support PETA, they say oh I don't eat me, expect for chicken...
lol
I eat all animals that are tasty
Cows, Fish, ducks, chickens, turkeys, quail, lobstah, however I refrain from eating house pets
man this thread made me hungry, imo send the dead dogs to NK (joke)
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reply posted on 16-5-2005 @ 09:53 PM by Amethyst
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I'm a member of PETA--People Eating Tasty Animals!
Seriously, animals were meant for man's use (though torture is a no-no). You know, if you don't want to consume any animal or by-product, that's
your business.
For every animal you don't eat, though, I'm gonna eat three!
I often wonder what would have happened if PETA was around during the Old Testament times and people gave all these sin offerings....
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reply posted on 16-5-2005 @ 10:35 PM by parrhesia
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Nothing wrong with children learning about humane treatment of animals, but PETA goes waaaaaay beyond that.
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reply posted on 16-5-2005 @ 11:13 PM by Amethyst
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I'm not typically one to go around slinging the terrorist label on someone with different viewpoints, but PETA is a terrorist group, they approve of
terrorist tactics--they believe the ends justify the means. And I don't even like the ends, much less the means!
Nothing wrong with treating animals humanely, like you said. But animals are not on the same level as humans. Humans are superior to animals,
period--God gave us dominion over animals.
My mother, whom I would describe as a moderate liberal (she's into that mother earth stuff to a degree), was going to contribute to PETA until she
found out about their tactics--then she said no way.
My view is this--If they want to eat nothing but veggies, fine--but they are NOT going to dictate what I eat!
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 12:48 AM by parrhesia
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Originally posted by Amethyst
I'm not typically one to go around slinging the terrorist label on someone with different viewpoints, but PETA is a terrorist group, they approve of
terrorist tactics--they believe the ends justify the means. And I don't even like the ends, much less the means! 
I think you're justified in that belief. They've given money to the ELF... and their tactics go too far, imo.
 Nothing wrong with treating animals humanely, like you said. But animals are not on the same level as humans. Humans are superior to animals,
period--God gave us dominion over animals. 
I pretty much agree with the conclusion (animals are not on the same level as humans) and feel no guilt of consuming them, but I disagree with your
reasoning. BUT, that's not what this thread is about
 My mother, whom I would describe as a moderate liberal (she's into that mother earth stuff to a degree), was going to contribute to PETA until
she found out about their tactics--then she said no way.
My view is this--If they want to eat nothing but veggies, fine--but they are NOT going to dictate what I eat! 
good that she came to her senses and realised what PETA is all about.
And yes, they can do as they please so long as it doesn't impinge on my rights to eat as I wish. They will never succed, especially using the tactics
they've adopted.
edit: stupid spelling
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 02:02 PM by cw034
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I have no objections to teaching children, or anyone for that matter about humane treatment. I do have an issue with PETA and how they feel that it
is perfectly acceptable to use terror tactics to get their point across.
Struting about with dead animal carcasses, scaring children into believing everything is bad and humilating those that don't believe in their ways is
nothing more than strong arm tactics.
The most ridiculous statment I heard about PETA was an article I found several years ago on the web that stated PETA was concerned about the right of
"worker bees". So I guess even in PETA's eyes mother nature is unaware of what she is doing and has apparently been doing it wrong for millions of
years. I'll see if I can locate the article and a link....if for nothing else it was a good laugh, and will make you realize that we all are the
geniuses we believe we are
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 02:04 PM by cw034
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 03:22 PM by James the Lesser
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PETA Vice President is on insulin, something PETA has firebombed places for. PETA has firebombed a man's house and torched his car for
euthenizing(sp?) animals in a pound, while they are killing over 1,300 animals in the PETA HQ alone. They paid a man, Coronado, over 45,000 to
firebomb places. Then paid his dad 25,000 to keep the son from mentioning them in court.
They are against animal testing, something that has created vaccines to many formerly deadly diseases, organ transplants, chemotherapy, and many other
things that save the lives of MILLIONS! a year. But again the VP uses insulin.
Other animal orginizations not created by PETA(ALF was created by PETA) consider PETA to mean People for Extortion, Terrorism, and Abuse. One
President of a non-PETA group said that nothing wrong with eating meat, they are dead, you can't bring them back to life. Animal testing has saved
millions of people, nothing wrong with it. But they are against torture of animals, or makeup places going "Gee, lets jab lipstick up it's bum and
see what happenes.".
ALF has released AIDS infested monkies into populated cities.
They have broken into and burned buildings down.
All with the support of PETA.
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 03:55 PM by LogansRun
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Originally posted by Xenersys
This really should not suprise anyone, these radicals also fund ELF and other "nutjob" organizations who are domestic terrorist. Corrupt the minds
of children with their lunacy. Education needs to be reformed and such groups should not be included. 
Really?? I want to see some proof about that. I have done work with PETA several times in the past and they are NOTHING like ELF. Get your facts
straight and consider your crap source..............FOX news
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 03:58 PM by LogansRun
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Originally posted by Amethyst
Seriously, animals were meant for man's use (though torture is a no-no). 
What an ignorant statement. Do you have any idea how the animals are killed so you can have your meat?? I eat meat as well, I have no issue with
eating meat. But the way animals are kept and slaughtered would make your stomach turn and go veggie all the way.
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 05:07 PM by WissNX01
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All this animal rights talk makes me hungry for a nice juicy steak. Im off to Sizzler, any one care to join?
If these PETA people got thier way, they would find something else for use to give up, maybe sex. These groups just like attention.
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 05:44 PM by iori_komei
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I have no problem with them teaching this kind of corriculum in school, nor do I have a problem with P.E.T.A, I dont think people should eat anything
but beef and chicken in the meat department personaly.
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 06:01 PM by James the Lesser
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Since they are a tax exempt company, the tax forms are public record. In them they have where they gave 45,200 dollars to Rod Coronado to firebomb
MSU and 6 other places. They then gave 25,000 to Ray Coronado, the dad, to make sure Rod Coronado didn't talk about PETA.
Also, in the tax forms, they have a 10x15 foot walk in fridge used for the bodies of those they had to kill because they pissed them off. I mean, the
animals they killed, while burning down people's houses for doing the same thing.
ALF/ELF are funded by PETA, also in tax forms.
It is amazing what you find when you look for it.
www.environmentireland.com...
"Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it."
— PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk, in the September 1989 issue of Vogue
More at www.peta-sucks.com...
www.consumerfreedom.com...
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 06:17 PM by namehere
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Really?? I want to see some proof about that. I have done work with PETA several times in the past and they are NOTHING like ELF. Get your facts
straight and consider your crap source..............FOX news 
the alf/elf was created from peta members, funded by and supported by peta and many peta members have been arrested for arson and beating people, fox
doesnt need any fact twisting because the truth speaks enough about peta to convince anyone of their ways on its own, you call a group good when their
leader wants total animal liberation? no pets, meat, eggs, milk, tests to save human lives, zoos, etc, i've seen her crazy talk.
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reply posted on 17-5-2005 @ 11:43 PM by daniel191159
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First off, I'd like to clarify that any comment I make regarding humans should be directed at the species as a whole, not on an individual level
unless stated otherwise.
I find that it is interesting that most people see an animal on the side of the road and think nothing of it but the second they see a human dead on
the side of the road it's an outrage.
A life is a life. If you want to speak numerically, a person on the side of the road should be expected as humans are one of the most numerous
animals on the planet (excluding insects of course). The fact that there are more people should be a give away that there will be more deaths caused
by accidents.
But anyway, I'm getting a bit off topic.
Humans tend to be a very arrogant species. They feel that as long as they live then it's okay for some animals to die (destruction of the
rainforest, companies that illegally dump chemicals into local streams and rivers, oil drilling, the fur industry, strip mining, extreme
overpopulation leading to expansion of cities into local wildlife areas, etc.).
I think it is great for children to be taught to respect and humanely treat animals. I wish they would put more of an emphasis on animal treatment in
my local school district as my little brother often mistreats our dog. Until I threatened to report to local animal rights activists about such
incidences, my parents did nothing to deter his behaviour.
I also think that the world needs organizations like PETA, for better or worse. Their extreme actions help to balance out the actions of those that
would mistreat animals through species-based arrogance.
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reply posted on 18-5-2005 @ 01:19 AM by midnight_fairy
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i completely agree with parrhesia, PETA goes WAY too far by what it teaches to children.
PETA also made pamphlets like: "Your Mommy Kills Animals."
"The fliers feature a woman stabbing a terrified rabbit in the belly with a bloody knife, reports the Boston Herald. Text on the pamphlets urges kids
to "ask your mommy how many dead animals she killed to make her fur clothes.""
www.worldnetdaily.com...
these fliers were given to children in preschool/elementary school.
you can check out this "comic book" at:
www.furisdead.com...
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reply posted on 18-5-2005 @ 03:26 PM by iori_komei
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Originally posted by midnight_fairy
i completely agree with parrhesia, PETA goes WAY too far by what it teaches to children.
PETA also made pamphlets like: "Your Mommy Kills Animals."
"The fliers feature a woman stabbing a terrified rabbit in the belly with a bloody knife, reports the Boston Herald. Text on the pamphlets urges kids
to "ask your mommy how many dead animals she killed to make her fur clothes.""
www.worldnetdaily.com...
these fliers were given to children in preschool/elementary school.
you can check out this "comic book" at:
www.furisdead.com... 
Well I dont know about you, but I have no problem with that, if it gets the job done, than why should'nt they.
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reply posted on 18-5-2005 @ 03:34 PM by Aelita
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Screw that!
I should be able to buy a fur coat if I want to. It will last longer than a double burger with cheese that people typically buy at McDonalds. The
burger also consists of proteins, just like that coat. What's a big freaking difference.
People in Siberia sometimes wear hats made of dog fur. It's so freaking cold out there, I'm not surprised a bit. Dog hats are nice.
I have more problem with killing animals for sport. However, if they are eaten in the end, that should be acceptable.
Animals eat animals, what else is new.
Maybe we should try to kill less people by not engaging in stupid wars like the one in Iraq.
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