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Originally posted by NuTroll
you got it almost right
Jer17:9 the heart [mind] is decietful above all things, and desperatley wicked: who can know it?
i find it hard to belive that something that calls itself a FEDERATION (a centralized collection of DIFFERENT MEMBER STATES) would need earth to be unified. its probably all a load of nwo mind control bs anyways. i mean really is velcro that hard to invent?
Originally posted by Gazrok
For example:
1. It shows a certain level of "maturity" for the planet, if able to live in peace with each other.
2. Can you imagine if a non-unified planet were allowed to join? Each govt would want it's OWN reps to the Federation!
3. This would mean one world could have dozens of reps, while each other had one, and well, I think we could see what would happen from there. Wars have started for far less.
Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Well the one disturbing angle of Star Trek is the fact that they no longer use currency and work for the greater good of mankind. that smacks of communism !
Originally posted by Gazrok
Seriously, I'm the only one who's wondered why anyone, if money was no longer used, would be a janitor aboard the Enterprise?
Originally posted by iori_komei
Not that I believe in any galactic federation thing,
I dont have a problem with a unified planetary government, nor do I have a problem with phasing out the monetary system.
Also, if communism is working for the greater good of humankind, well, than I'm a communist.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Ahh...you're missing the point.
The point is, if money didn't exist, and basic needs were provided for, what would be the INCENTIVE to be just one in the crowd, versus simply lying around doing nothing? Sure, one could argue that such individuals went into Starfleet Academy, wanting to explore, etc., but upon doing badly enough to warrant say, the guy who does nothing but crawl through Jeffreys tubes looking for out circuits, to just not go, "crap, didn't make it, guess I'll go back home now".
The no money concept really came about in STNG, I believe. I remember Picard using the phrase often...(despite the Ferengi use of gold-pressed latinum). Ok, I'm not even a big Trek fan, but my inner geek is showing...