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North Korea to Conduct Nuclear Tests in June:Top Russian Politician

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posted on May, 14 2005 @ 12:13 PM

A top Russian parliamentarian said on Tuesday that North Korea will hold nuclear tests in June and assessed the situation with the rogue state's nuclear program as "near the critical point".

The head of the State Duma's International Relations Committee, Konstantine Kosachev, was quoted by the RIA-Novosti news agency as saying that "there are all grounds to think that a test of a nuclear device can take place in DPRK in June". The politician made this statement before leaving for Pyongyang on a visit.

Also on Tuesday Reuters quoted South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper as saying that U.S. intelligence has detected the movement of heavy equipment in North Korea that points to possible preparations for an underground nuclear test.

The newspaper, quoting a government source, said U.S. spy satellites had captured frequent movements of trucks in the north-eastern region of Kilju, as well as the movement of cranes and other heavy equipment into the area. "U.S. intelligence authorities believe the images and other information point to preparations for a possible underground nuclear ", the source was quoted as saying.

U.S. and Japanese news reports last week said Washington had warned some governments and agencies that North Korea could be preparing for a test, which would represent a serious escalation of tensions over North Korea's nuclear weapons ambitions.


IMO, these North Korean nukes are of Pakistani origin.
Pakistan traded its nuke technology(which itself was stolen) for North Korean Ballistic Missile Tech, using Chinese leads.

Read about it :

Also, NK has missiles that can reach USA.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 12:22 PM
Personally, I hope that thing misfires on the way to the impact range. I would love to see N. Korea put itself out of everyone else's misery.

They're such a pain in the gash.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 12:26 PM
It is also an open secret that Paksitan is responsile for providing Iran with nuke tech too . >>


IMO, the USA should get tough and impose sanctions on the source of nuke prolifertion instead of focussing on policing and harassing these recipients of proliferated pakistani nuke tech. But unfortunately, the US is pampering Paksitan by supplying it with top of the line F-16's, advanced missiles etc for some gimmics on fighting terrorism, when Paksitan is the world's largest state-sponsorer of terrorism . >>

Pakistan sponsored terrorist outfits :
Hizbul Mujahideen

Of all the terrorist outfits operating in the State of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), the Hizb-ul Mujahideen is the largest, with a cadre base drawn from indigenous and foreign sources. Pakistani reports estimate that it controls about 60 per cent of terrorists operating in the State.

This outfit has come into the spotlight when the "chief commander (Operations)" Abdul Majeed Dar made a conditional offer of cease-fire at a press conference in Srinagar on July 24. The endorsement of this offer by the group's supremo Syed Salaudin alias Pir Sahib, followed in an Islamabad press conference on July 25.

The Hizb-ul Mujahideen was founded in 1989 as the militant wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a socio-cultural and religious organisation of Jammu and Kashmir. It was originally termed Al Badr but was soon renamed as the Hizb-ul Mujahideen. The Jamaat-e-Islami is reported to have set up this terrorist front at the prodding of ISI, as an Islamic counter to the JKLF, which is secular terrorist outfit with an indigenous cadre base. The Hizb-ul Mujahideen stands for the integration of J&K with Pakistan.

Some of the important office bearers in the organization are :-
(a) Commander in Chief - Mohd Yusuf Shah

(b) Working Chief - Ali Mohd Dar

(c) Chief Organizer - Abdul Nahid Sheikh

(d) Chief of Operations - Gazi Naseeruddin

Earlier Hizb-ul Mujahideen had established contacts with Afghan mujahideen groups under which its cadre received arms training. Its present strength is an estimated 500-600 terrorist. Since 1997, this group has been operating in tandem with them Lashkar- e-Toiba Most of the activities of the organization are planned and controlled by Pakistan. The headquarter of Hizb is located in Pakistan Muzaffarabad, with the orders being relayed to the executors in the Valley. The ideology behind the armed struggle is merger of Jammu and Kashmir with Pakistan through armed struggle. The area of operation of the group spreads across the valley with a higher concentration in Rajwad, Lolab, Bandipore, Sopore, Ganderbal, Kulgam and Kokernag area.

The Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) is a relatively new terrorist outfit, compared to other major outfits active in Jammu and Kashmir (J&K). Like the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), the JeM too is an outfit formed, controlled and manned by Pakistan. The outfit was launched on January 31, 2000, by Maulana Masood Azhar in Karachi after he was released from an Indian jail during the terrorists for hostage swap of December 31, 1999, following the hijacking of the Indian Airlines Flight IC 814. He was also reported to have received assistance in setting up the JeM from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the then Taliban regime in Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden and several Sunni sectarian outfits of Pakistan.

There are no reports of any formal governing bodies or councils within the outfit.

Unconfirmed reports indicate that the prominent office bearers of the organisation include :-
(a) Commander in chief - Maulana Masood Azhar

(b) Deputy Chief - Mustaq Ahmed Zargar

(c) Ameer - Maulana Umer Farooq

(d) Chief Commander of J&K - Abu Hizrat

The Jaish-e-Mohammed has largely confined its operations within J&K. The only recorded instance of its operations outside J&K has been the December 13, 2001, Parliament attack in New Delhi. However, several of its cadre have, on occasions been arrested or killed by security forces in states other than J&K.

The outfit is closely linked, through the Binoria Madrassah in Karachi, with the former Taliban regime of Afghanistan and its protégé, Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda. JeM chief, Masood Azhar was released by Indian authorities in Kandahar and has reportedly met Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan on various occasions. The JeM is also reported to have links with Sunni terrorist outfits operating in Pakistan such as the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ).

The masterminds of JeM operate from their headquarter in Islamabad. Although less in strength and composition than HM with 225 - 250 cadres, the content of foreign terrorists is exceptionally high ranging between 75 - 80%. The concentration of the group has been to give a fillip to the waning state of militancy in J&K by carrying out spectacular violent activities. The entire state of J&K has presence of Jaish terrorists with particular concentration in Srinagar, Anantnag and Baramulla districts.

Formed in 1990 in the Kunar province of Afghanistan, the Lashkar-e-Toiba is the military wing of the Markaz-ud-Dawa-wal-Irshad (MDI), an Islamic fundamentalist organisation of the Ahle-Hadith sect in Pakistan. Based in Muridke near Lahore, Pakistan it is headed by Prof. Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the Amir of the LeT. It has been reorganized into two independent wings- one exclusively devoted to preaching of Islam with Prof Hafiz Muhammad Saeed as its chief and the other to carry on its violent campaign in Kashmir under the leadership of Kashmiri scholar Maulana Abdul Wahid Kashmiri.

It was actively promoted by Pakistan's external intelligence agency, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), since 1996. This support was more so after another outfit, the Harkat-ul-Ansar) was declared as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation by the US in 1997.
The LeT's professed ideology goes beyond merely challenging India's sovereignty over the State of Jammu and Kashmir. The Lashkar's 'agenda', includes the restoration of Islamic rule over all parts of India. Further, the outfit propagates a narrow Islamist fundamentalism preached by its mentor, the MDI. It seeks to bring about a union of all Muslim majority regions in countries that surround Pakistan. The operations in the valley are executed by the 300 - 350 cadres. Of the composition, around 75 - 80% consist of foreign terrorists, in possession of sophisticated weapons.

LeT has shifted all its facilities and offices to PoK and the outfit has formed a new General Council under the leadership of Maulana Abdul Wahid Kashmiri, with Mr. Zaki ur Rehman Lakhwi as the 'Supreme Commander' within Jammu & Kashmir. Other members of the the General Council are - Mr. Abdullah of Anantnag (Islamabad) - Mr.Haji Mohammad Azam of Poonch - Mr. Muzammil Butt of Doda - Mr. Mohammad Umair of Baramullah - Mr. Chaudhri Abdullah Khalid Chauhan of Bagh - Mr. Rafiq Akhtar of Muzaffarabad - Mr. Aftab Hussain of Kotli - Mr. Faisal Dar of Srinagar - Mr. Chaudhri Yusuf of Mirpur - Mr. Maulana Mohammad Sharif Balghari of Baltistan - Mr. Raja Mohammad Irshad Advocate - Mr. Masood Lone Advocate. Its mercenaries are organised at district levels with 'district commanders' in charge. Within Pakistan, the outfit has a network of training camps and branch offices, which undertake recruitment and collection of finances.

While the primary area of operations of the Lashkar-e-Toiba's terrorist activities is the Kashmir valley, the outfit is also active in the Jammu region besides having undertaken isolated attacks in other parts of India. The Lashkar is reported to have conducted several of its major operations in tandem with the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen. In Kashmir, the major areas of operation are Lolab valley of Kupwara sector, Rajwar area of Handwara sector, Beeru belt of Badgam sector and Lar-Ganderbal area of Srinagar sector. The LeT was also reported to have been directed by the ISI to widen its network in the Jammu region where a considerable section of the populace comprised Punjabis. The LeT that has a large number of activists who hail from Pakistani Punjab can thus effectively penetrate into Jammu society.

The Lashkar-e-Toiba was created to participate in the Mujahideen conflict against the Najibullah regime in Afghanistan. In the process, the outfit developed deep linkages with Afghanistan and has several Afghan nationals in its cadre. The outfit had also cultivated links with the former Taliban regime in Afghanistan and also with Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda network.

The name Al-Badr was revived for use by the Pakistan and Afghan cadres of the Hizbul Mujahideen in the summer of 1998. Its formation came about as a result of growing differences between Kashmiri-origin cadre of the Hizb, and the insurgents pumped in by Pakistan, over issues such as leadership, funding and the direction of their activities. The final break came after the Jamaat-e-Kashmir Amir G.M. Bhat called for an end to armed struggle, a move which incensed the Hizbul Mujahideen's foreign cadres.

Early efforts to give Al-Badr a Kashmiri face by recruiting Majid Dar, failed. Its leadership is now wholly Pakistani. Its commander-in-chief, Nasser Ahmed, and supreme commander, Bhakt Zaman, are both residents of Peshawar. The Chief Commander in the Valley is Arfeen Bhai. In 1999, because of the nature of its cadre, the Lashkar-e-Toiba announced it would work closely with this organisation. Al-Badr has rejected the Hizbul Mujahideen's peace initiative.

The headquarter of the organization is based in Manshera in Pakistan. The organisation is, however, relatively small, with less than 150 operatives estimated to be active in Jammu and Kashmir at any given time. The majority of the terrorists in the organization again constitute of foreign insurgents. The terrorists are mostly concentrated in the hinterland and are involved in insurgency activities in Kupwara, Anantnag and Baramulla districts.

The Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen (JuM) was the first breakaway faction of the Hizbul Mujahideen, and was born out of personality clashes between Ahsan Dar and Hilal Ahmed Mir, who died some years ago in an encounter. It had some successes until 1996, but despite executing a series of bomb blasts directed at National Conference (NC) leaders, it was soon marginalised. The JuM's other key enemy was the All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC), which, it felt, had no right to represent the insurgents in Jammu and Kashmir. Several JuM leaders were eliminated in a series of operations after 1996, leaving its cadre disorganised and increasingly fragmented.

It is a pro-Pakistan group responsible for elimination of Kashmiri scholars and social workers. With Maulana Masood leading the pack, the group has majority of foreign terrorists as operatives.

Harkat-ul-Jihad Islami, Harkat-ul-Ansar and Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
The Harkat ul-Ansar was formed by the merger of two Pakistani groups, Harkat ul-Jihad al-Islami and Harkat ul-Mujahedin, and led by Maulana Saadatullah Khan. The merger of these two political groups and its transformation into a militant group came about as part of the Afghan jihad.

With a pan-Islamic ideology, the outfit strove to achieve the secession of Jammu and Kashmir from India through violent means and its eventual merger with Pakistan. About 60 per cent of its estimated 1000 strong cadre were Pakistanis and Afghans.

The Harkat-ul-Ansar was termed a terrorist organization by the US due to its association with the exiled Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden in 1997. To avoid the repercussions of the US ban, the group was recast as the Harkat ul-Mujahideen in 1998.

Based in Muzaffarabad, capital of Pakistan occupied Kashmir; the Harkat ul-Ansar has participated in insurgent and terrorist operations in Kashmir. In Kashmir, the outfit had carried out several operations against Indian troops besides attacks on civilian targets. In the process, several of its top leaders including Masood Azhar (General Secretary and top ideologue), Sajjad Afghani (Commander of the Harkat ul-Ansar in Jammu and Kashmir) and Nasarullah Manzoor Langaryal (commander of the erstwhile Harkat-ul Mujaheedin), were captured by Indian security forces.

With all these arrests, the outfit gradually lost its influence in the State's militancy. The outfit's controlling body, Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) also ensured that most of the cadre were transferred to the Lashkar-e-Toiba, which gradually enlarged the latter's role in the State's militancy.

The US ban made it difficult for the Harkat-ul-Ansar's Pakistani sponsors to continue their support. Fund raising activities in Western countries too were affected. Hence, the Harkat-ul-Ansar was officially closed and a new militant outfit Harkat ul-Mujahideen was formed.

Masood Azhar and Umar Saeed Sheikh were released along with Mushtak Ahmed Zargar, commander of the Al Umar, a militant group with a predominantly Kashmiri cadre base in December 1999. The demand for the release of Zargar appeared to be a ploy to convey the impression that the hijacking was conducted for the sake of Kashmiris rather than foreign militants.

With the near total loss of its top leadership, the cadre base and Pakistani sponsorship, the Harkat-ul-Ansar appears to have collapsed and is no longer active in the State's insurgency.

Tehreek Jihad-e-Islami, Muslim Janbaaz Force and Al-Jihad Force
Nazir Ahmed Wani formed the People's League in September 1974 as a political organisation. But rapidly it gave birth to a welter of terrorist groups. In 1979, its leaders formulated a three-year plan for an uprising against the Indian government. In 1988, its leader Abdul Aziz Sheikh returned to the State from Pakistan, and began organising cadre for armed action. Later that year, however, the League split with Shabbir Shah and S. Hamid forming the now-defunct Muslim Janbaaz Force, while Sheikh and Mohammad Farooq Rehmani set up the Tehreek Jihad-e-Islami.
Most of the Tehreek's cadre joined the Hizbul Mujahideen by 1993, although the mediator in the negotiations between the Hizb and the Union government, Fazl-ul-Haq Qureishi, tried to revive the organisation along with Rehmani in January 1994. The Hizbul Mujahideen's Majid Dar knew Qureishi during his Tehreek days. Hamid, after years of inactivity, attempted to set up a new organisation, Al-Jihad, provoking another split, with Firdaus Ahmed Baba alias Babar Badr setting up a new faction of the Muslim Janbaaz Force. Hamid was killed in an encounter last year. Al-Jihad emerged as the second largest unit in the Kashmir Valley for a while, but was wiped out by 1994, in part as a result of power struggles within the Hizbul Mujahideen. Qureishi went to jail and emerged years later, alienated from the war he helped begin. His role in the peace efforts illustrates the respect with which he continues to be held.

These are only some of the groups and constitue only the tip of the iceberg. If i had posted details everything the mods will warn me for over-posting.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 11:07 PM
it seems that Individuals of pakistans nuke program has given tech not the pakistani government.

dont misinterput this information

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 11:37 PM
The North Koreans had about 6 nukes last time I checked... Should be at least 10 by June... However, I think something will go wrong, NK and Western definetions for "weapons grade" plutonium and uranium are different, maybe Kim is just playing around with the hype.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 11:49 PM
Did'nt someone predict a nuclear accident in NK? I'm sure I read that somewhere. Just can't find the link.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:06 AM
cant wait till june, the test should be a good show

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:31 AM

Originally posted by krt1967
Did'nt someone predict a nuclear accident in NK? I'm sure I read that somewhere. Just can't find the link.

maybe it was that huge gas explosion last year sometime

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:37 AM
I suppose Bush has made some sort of arragement with Moscow/putin that may avoid a power response to NK to seriously encourage them their gone from nuc - anything.


posted on May, 15 2005 @ 03:05 AM
What a coincidence..all the American Draft Boards and Appeal Boards will be completely filled by then.



If it happens, it happens, that's my opinion. They (N Koera) should look to the US and learn from our mistakes. How many tens or hundreds of thousands of people have to die from test fallout before people resign themselves to conventional weapons? If they end up radiating half of Asia, it's their own goddamn fault, and they'll suffer mightily for their stupidity and hubris.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 05:49 AM
Ok then i'll say it...there will be a nuclear accident in Korea.....just not real sure if its north or Prolly north though

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 09:40 AM

Originally posted by chinawhite
it seems that Individuals of pakistans nuke program has given tech not the pakistani government.

dont misinterput this information

You think one individual can control all of a nations nukes ??

Pakistan have scapegoated AQ Khan to save its own image. Its an open secret. Try googling and you'll find hundreds of sites(mostly american) acknoledging the same.Pakistan exchanged stolen nuke tech for Nk's ballistic missile tech with China as middleman.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 10:57 AM

WASHINGTON -- North Korea was able to put a nuclear warhead on missiles that could hit America, a senior US defence official said yesterday.

It was a startlingly open appraisal of the communist state's military capability.

Asked by Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton whether North Korea had the ability to arm a missile with a nuclear device, Mr Jacoby said: "The assessment is that they have the capability to do that, yes, ma'am."

He said North Korea also had the ability to deploy a two-stage intercontinental missile that could hit US territory.

"Assessed to be within their capacity, yes," he said.

Questioned on the possible target range of the missiles, and whether they could reach the west coast of the US, Mr Jacoby said he needed to look at the range arcs, but added: "It's certainly Alaska and Hawaii, and I believe a portion of the northwest."

It is believed to be the first time a US government official has publicly said North Korea has the technology to add a nuclear device to a missile.

Mr Jacoby's remarks at the hearing on the defence intelligence budget of the US Senate Armed Services Committee alarmed Mrs Clinton.

"It is troubling beyond words that we have testimony like that at this time," she said.

President Bush admitted yesterday there was concern about North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il's capacity to deliver a nuclear weapon.

"We don't know if he can or not, but it is best when you're dealing with a tyrant like Kim Jong-Il to assume he can," Mr Bush said.

Source / Full Story...

Look who is the hunted now, and all the Anti-ballistic missile stuff is still in develpment . I guess USA is getting a taste of its own medecine.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 11:08 AM
Let's be careful not to get antagonistic in this topic please.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:02 PM

Originally posted by SimonGray
Let's be careful not to get antagonistic in this topic please.

Alright sir, i will oblige (mostly because you are the admin) All HEIL


Every one : Check out this thread too >> US ready to launch nuke attacks on hostile countries: Report

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:58 PM
I heard that Bush already had prepared a 'pre-counterattack', to attack them before they can have the test if they are surely doing so. I'll love to see what will happen once that dumb*ss proposes his new war plans...I wonder what it'll be called this time, 'OPERATION: NK FREEDOM'?? When will it end...

posted on May, 16 2005 @ 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Stealth Spy

Originally posted by chinawhite
it seems that Individuals of pakistans nuke program has given tech not the pakistani government.

dont misinterput this information

You think one individual can control all of a nations nukes ??

Pakistan have scapegoated AQ Khan to save its own image. Its an open secret. Try googling and you'll find hundreds of sites(mostly american) acknoledging the same.Pakistan exchanged stolen nuke tech for Nk's ballistic missile tech with China as middleman.

I agree Stealth Spy, the US gov & media intentionally aim the public periscope to the nation recipients of nuke technology(ex post facto), successfully smokescreening the real-time problem: dissemination. The US war on terror's fatal flaw is permitting oil-rich regimes Saudi Arabia/United Arab Emirates to police themselves and issue casual reports on minimal countermeasures to maintain the appearance of an ally. The gov didn't take out bin Laden when the opportunity arose because they didn't want to jeopardize his United Arab Emirates prince buddies. Pakistan is just one bullet away from being a rogue nation. One schematic meeting with Abdul Qadeer Khan and it just becomes a matter of logistics, which oil-wealth easily overcomes. Any future American fire in the sky won't come from NK or Iran, but Rawalpindi or Dubai.

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