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SCI/TECH: Let the Gaming Wars Begin - Again

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posted on May, 14 2005 @ 11:28 PM
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Humbug.

I don't care if the thing makes cupcakes and dispenses frosting out of the controller, it still sounds like just another console. Faster and with more shiny parts but still just a console nonetheless.

BTW, wait until E3 to see the real specs, I'm sure it will be different than what is floating around now and I'm hearing all kinds of rumors.

It'll be a great little $300 toy for Santa to leave under the tree for the kid of a serious gamer this Christmas though!




[edit on 14-5-2005 by Veltro]




posted on May, 14 2005 @ 11:40 PM
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BTW, wait until E3. Don't care why, just do it. It rocks. I gotta go one of these years.

I'm still trying to find a used N64. Now THAT was a system. LoZ:OoT is still the best game ever.



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:01 AM
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I had a 2600, NES, and SNES and loved those, but that's when I was a kid and before I had a PC. I got my first PC in 95 and consoles just haven't held my interest since. Still I had a PS1, PS2 and 2 XBoxes but I'd always get rid of them after they sat unused for 6 months.

If the new consoles come out with more high quality FPS and sim games I might be interested. Especially if they had full keyboard/mouse support. Not that crap third party stuff you can get for PS2 that doesn't work but an actual keyboard/mouse that is supported and works with all the games that would benefit from it. I hate using a glorified TV remote to play FPS games.

Until then I will remain highly skeptical.



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:30 AM
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I gotta go one of these years.


Don't bother if you don't have a press pass. It is literally a zoo with long lineups to play the demos, loud and gaudy. On the plus side theres lots of Booth Babes.

[edit on 15-5-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 08:25 AM
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Ok, conflicting reports.... Nintendo says the New Nintendo is going back to Cartridges, then not, then it is going to go with new cd system thing so all the GC games are paperweights, then someone says they aren't gonna be paperweights, so who knows. Either way, Nintendo sucks. I mean, the only new games they have are the ones that come out on the other 2 systems. Everything else is a repeat. Save the Princess, Save the Princess, Save the Princess. Mario, Super Mario, Mario 64, Water Splash Time Mario, or the double dash, that is about as new as they have come out with ever!

At least when PS1/PS2 have Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10,11,10-2, they all different.(Except 10 and 10-2) New techniques, new magic, new weapons, new characters, new storylines, new new new!

Or Xbox with Evil Dead, FistFull of Boomstick! Love Ash from the movies!(Bruce Campbell "Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun)

Also, look at the graphics, Xbox Great, PS2 Great, Nintendo, mediocore unless it is on other systems.(Mortal Kombat DA, not the new one, GC couldn't handle it cause it didn't suck)

After SNES I stopped going with Nintendo. I still play Zelda, StarFox, Mario, whatever on my NES and SNES, but other then that Nintendo sucks.



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 08:38 AM
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I always thought consoles were the future of home gaming... in 1992! The computer was not so extrodinary back then, but consoles are lagging behind now, and the gap is becomeing ever so wider. GC only had a 485mhz CPU and PS2 only had a 300mhz. In more complex, high-resolution games, these things are fancy adding machines. Microsoft has an extensive knowlage of hardware and networking, this is the key factor. Even the original XBOX had a 785mhz CPU, now you jump from that to 3200mhz in a few years, will raise some eybrows.

This new XBOX can download games from the network instead of buying them in the store for very little money. I heard to about half the price. Nintendo offers very little comapared to whats already out there, to me that companys days may be numbered if they don't come out with something groundbreaking (seriously doubt). Nintendo might have been fun as kids with Mario, we grew up, and want GTA, Halo, Conker: Live and Reloaded, and wrestling games. PS3 looks pretty promising too. I will be looking forward to going to my friends house to play it and kill a few afternoons.

But for me... I'll stick with my P3, 1000mhz, 512 RAM, PC, no questions asked. Free online play, unbeatible support, upgradable, fast, easy, expandible, what more can a gamer want?



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Veltro
If the new consoles come out with more high quality FPS and sim games I might be interested. Especially if they had full keyboard/mouse support. Not that crap third party stuff you can get for PS2 that doesn't work but an actual keyboard/mouse that is supported and works with all the games that would benefit from it. I hate using a glorified TV remote to play FPS games.


But then you wouldn't buy the ps2. Just play the damn thing on a computer, that's what it is. They wanna make a profit, so you'll be using the controller or your "remote."

As GoldEagle said, Nintendo is really starting to look lackluster. They need to come out with a HUGE hit to stay in the game (no pun intended) and they gotta work hard to rope some large titles as well as their own stuff, which is always in relatively high demand. Let it mature a bit, GC was too young.

[edit on 5/15/2005 by Amorymeltzer]



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
Ok, conflicting reports.... Nintendo says the New Nintendo is going back to Cartridges, then not, then it is going to go with new cd system thing so all the GC games are paperweights, then someone says they aren't gonna be paperweights, so who knows.


What the hell is this, do these people think we are all rich, like them? Thanks for pointing this out. See how pethetic Nintendo is? They show no consideration for their customers. PS3 will play old games from PS2, which played old games from PSX. XBOX 360 will play old games from XBOX. You'll never no matter how hard you try be able to fit a N64 (only good system) cartrage in a game cube, I seriously doubt that they learned their lesson that people can't keep buying new games, and systems every 4 years (less, if you are like me and wait for the price to go down). I rather buy a new system and save money by keeping the games from the old.

This is the best of the reasons not to buy Nintendo's new system! Soon they will scrap the DS to to compete with the PSP.

Nintendo would make there way back into the market if the made PC games!



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 12:08 PM
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From GameSpot.com/news:

"Nintendo announced that its new console, code-named the "Revolution," will play DVDs and be backward compatible. "Nintendo's legions of loyal fans will be happy to learn that Revolution will be backward compatible, playing both Nintendo GameCube three-inch discs, along with its own standard, double-layered DVD discs in the same self-loading media drive," said the company."

Eat it.

I'm not saying that the system will beat the PS3 or XBOX 360, but Nintendo is in a similar spot that Sega was in when they released the Dreamcast. It's do or die. They know that, we know that, fans know that. The fact is, either they come back to reality and realize that they can no longer dictate what "fans want," or we see Mario and Link on the XBOX 360 and PS3 within the next 3 years.

Also "the Revolution will be "wireless Internet ready out of the box" and will be powered by an IBM CPU and an ATI GPU." Seems as though IBM is possibly the smartest chip maker on the planet getting the monopoly on all the chips in the next gen systems.

BTW, the specs for the XBOX 360 are as follows, directly from Microsoft themselves:

"it has a custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU with three symmetrical 3.2GHz cores capable of 9 billion dot product operations per second. It sports a 500MHz custom ATI Graphics Processor with 10MB of embedded DRAM, 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines, and a unified shader architecture capable of 48 billion shader operations per second. Its polygon performance is 500 million triangles per second, with a pixel fill rate of 16 gigasamples per second. The 360's unified memory architecture will rival that of a high-end PC, with 512MB GDDR3 RAM and 700MHz DDR. Overall, the console will be capable of a whopping teraflop of overall system floating-point performance."

That's some serious horsepower.

Can it be upgraded like a PC, no. However, since the XBOX is designed to play games and not spreadsheets, video editing, word processing, and image manipulation you can't really compare the specs to a PC, or the specs of any console for that matter. Consoles are made to play games and perfom other multimedia functions, they are not a PC, and are not designed to operate that way. It's like comparing a motorcycle and a car. Sure, they can both move people around, but each are designed to handle completely different aspects of transportation.

Personally, I like that I can link it to my home network and stream my MP3s from my computer to the box, instead of having to burn everything to a CD, and then load it that way. Customized soundtracks for every games rules!

-O



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 06:28 PM
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Well that clears up the Sony and Microsoft fanatics who claim Revolution won't have backwards compatibiltiy.

The problem with the last generation turnover was simple. In the days of the N64 cartriges were superior to disks, but during the next generation that flipped when it comes to consoles. Nintendo had to switch at some point.

Anyhow according to IGN there is a possibility that X-Box 360 might not have backwards compatibilty, I'm not sure about this but it's a possiblity.

However I'm wondering, how on earth will Revolution play DVD's and GC disks? Thats cool and all but it sounds complicated.



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 06:47 PM
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Ok, so the I guess the earlier idea of pulling a Nintendo got backlash so they decided not to do what they always do.

But still, nothing compared to a Xbox or PS2. Hell, it is nothing compared to a PS1.



posted on May, 15 2005 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by The Big O

Can it be upgraded like a PC, no. However, since the XBOX is designed to play games and not spreadsheets, video editing, word processing, and image manipulation you can't really compare the specs to a PC, or the specs of any console for that matter. Consoles are made to play games and perfom other multimedia functions, they are not a PC, and are not designed to operate that way. It's like comparing a motorcycle and a car. Sure, they can both move people around, but each are designed to handle completely different aspects of transportation.

-O


Ahh.. You mean like the Xbox that i have runnning now with 600 gigs of space?? and the Mods that I got on it???



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 07:18 PM
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This system will be great however basically all it is microsoft acheving its goal of intergating windows into the living room. There are many rumors thats PS3 is suppose to be way faster than this system. The PS3 also has a new processor that desgined for performance. My point is Bill Gates will get his way as always.

OK they are no longer rumors the ps3 can hand 1 more terraflop than the xbox 360 can. The ps3 looks much better than Xbox 360 as well.



[edit on 17-5-2005 by Air_jordan]



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Air_jordan
This system will be great however basically all it is microsoft acheving its goal of intergating windows into the living room. There are many rumors thats PS3 is suppose to be way faster than this system. The PS3 also has a new processor that desgined for performance. My point is Bill Gates will get his way as always.


HAVE YOU SEEN THAT?! GORGEOUS!

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[edit on 5/16/2005 by Amorymeltzer]



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:47 PM
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This new XBOX can download games from the network instead of buying them in the store for very little money.


is this confirmed? will all 3 next gen consoles have the same ability for digital distribution of their games? if this is the case theoretically the costs of games should be a lot less by cutting out a bunch of middlemen, and I could see gaming franchises seriously hurt by this shift, especially if the PC follows suit.

-raven



posted on May, 16 2005 @ 10:55 PM
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The PC follow suit? Try the other way around. I've been able to Buy and Download games on PC for a few years now and it hasn't hurt the industry. The future is Download and Play and guess what It ain't gonna much cheaper if the Distributors have thier way. For a case study just look at HL2 Steam Downloading service. Or Guild Wars which is completely streamed on the HD. The prices for both games were still above $50.

[edit on 16-5-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 09:54 PM
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PS3 will, of course, be backwards compatible with PS and PS2, because Sony is smart.

Revolution will be able to download SNES and N64 games, which means that not only will it have the largest repository of games, but it will also have many of the best.

I don't know about Xbox 360, does it really matter?



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 09:58 PM
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posted on May, 18 2005 @ 07:35 PM
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Wow! Before reading this I didn't know which of the three would be the best. Now I am shocked. Not because I want the new Sony and Microsoft systems, but because that is the best looking Nintendo system I have ever seen. I have not looked forward to a Nintendo since the N64. Now I want all 3!



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 09:25 PM
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It's funny, I'm actually inclined to say the revolution might be a better bet, because of the awesome N64 games. The ps3 stats, however, to be too amazing to ignore.


Now, if they'd just port Halo, Playstation would win hands down...



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