Originally posted by websurfer
Sony just owns the entertainment business. The triniton screen is by sony, as is the world's first portable walkman.
All Microsoft does is steal ideas. Steve Jobs was the first to come up with GUI, Bill Gates stole the idea and called it windows.
The Xbox360 is not as high tech as one would have imagined. It's just not visually appealing to me. All I see is a box with curves, kind of
stupid, not the kind of futuristic gaming system I was expecting. Whats with the controller, a replica of N64. I would have went with the
sidewinder 1st choice for xbox [controller]
It would have been that with force feedback and wireless support.
Get your facts straight my good man. Steve Jobs bought the first truly marketable GUI-based OS from Xerox (just as Gates bought DOS from a little
company in Washington state - Gates and Jobs are one and the same, it's all how you market yourself). And Steve Jobs was never the true brains
behind apple's hardware/software - his buddy Steve Wozniak was. Woz was the technical guru - Jobs was the marketing genius.
As far as XBOX 360 and Playstation 3 go - show me the games. What does it matter? You can have the most powerful system in the world, but it
doesn't mean jack if you don't have the games to go with it. As far as Sony is concerned - I don't buy their bull. If anyone here remembers, the
Playstation 2 was supposed to have games with graphics as good as CGI - it's all how your market yourself. The only difference between what
Microsoft showed and what Sony showed is that Microsoft actually had playable hardware at E3 (althought it was on a pre-development platform - a dual
The majority of what Sony showed was what they always show - CGI, nothing more. Microsoft actually showed real games, and you could tell, some of the
games would slow down from time to time (that's from not actually having final development hardware to play on). And you want to know how you can
tell that most of what Sony showed was bunk? It was all running too smoothly (and certainly, as I said, wreaked of typical Sony-hype CGI)! Sony
doesn't even have any of the hardware in production (neither does Microsoft; however, because they are using a customized version of IBM's PowerPC
processors, they can use G5's as pre-development hardware - albeit much slower than what the final development hardware will be), let alone a
computer that could even emulate (the design of the Cell is so vastly different from your typical processor that there is nothing equivalent) the type
of power that Sony and IBM claim it has.
However, they do have alpha development hardware going around (in very short supply), and Epic Games said that they running Unreal Tournament 2007 in
real-time on the dev hardware (one of only about 2-3 games actually running in real-time on PS3 dev hardware at E3). Epic Games ported over a game
that was already working on Windows hardware - so they were actually displaying a game that has been in development for quite a while now. And I read
somewhere that the alpha dev hardware for the PS3 only became available a few weeks or a month before E3. So the odds of the Killzone 2 video being
real are next to nil - they were showing a fully working game that would have taken years and years to develop. They only recently released
(11/02/2004) the first Killzone on the PS2 (they had no other games before that). So how the hell could it look that good in less than a year when
they just barely finished the first Killzone? There is no possibility that they could have been working on them both concurrently - they're Sony
only developers. Epic Games develops on multiple platforms - they aren't reliant on a company to have dev kits to develop their games. The Killzone
developers are solidly reliant on Sony. Sony wants to hype up their machine to maximum proportions because Microsoft is a fierce competitor to them.
So what's the easiest way to hype up a machine and make people believe that what they are seeing are actual games (in the quickest amount of time)?
Just like I said before, CGI. And Sony has always relied upon CGI to market their machines.
So people can believe the Sony hype if they want, but go do your research before you jump to the conclusion that Sony's console will be more powerful
than Microsoft's - the proof is in the pudding. Go look back on how Sony marketed the Playstation 2 (when it first appeared) at E3 so many years
ago, and then try and tell me that the Playstation 2 is doing what they claimed it would be capable of. One thing is clear: Sony's systems have
never been easy to develop for. They know hardware - they don't know software. Microsoft knows software like the back of it's hand (which made the
XBox extremely easy to develop for - not just because it's hardware was basically that of a small form factor pc), and in the end, that's what's
important. The hardware is supposed to be transparent to the developer/consumer. All anyone cares about is whether their software will work or
If Sony delivers, I'll eat my own words. But their past history of promising things and not delivering (almost always) is what's important. So be
prepared when the latest Killzone or Tekken comes out on the PS3 and don't look, or play, anything like what was shown in Sony's little hype
Forget the hype that is the PS3 - show me the actual games!
[edit on 6-9-2005 by EmbryonicEssence]